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September 18, 2017, 10:46:42 PM
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Dear moderator, I'm completely unsure where to add this thread as it's both an Announcement with more than obvious connection to the altcoins, involes an ICO and a form of service, and yet it is an effort that should involve a discussion, so at the end I decided to post it in the Altcoins discussion forum. Please feel free to move it elsewhere if you consider it is violating this forum section rules.




As part of the Cryptum ICO we are developing the first strategy crypto mining board game. Our main partners are Crypto Mining Blog and BoardGames.BG. You can read what we announced so far on our website, or you can just skim through the short informal summary about the game below.

Game summary (source)
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Blockchain: The Cryptocurrency Board Game and allows up to five players to compete by building mining rigs or investing in ASICs or even a limited number of ICOs, buying and upgrading high-end mining hardware with the goal of owning most Bitcoins and Ethereum at the end of the game. Bitcoin and Ethereum have a “floating” cost and it is set throughout the game as an optional rule, which adds another strategy layer (exchanging for BTC or ETH will raise their prices).

Blockchain simulates both the competition and cooperation between miners by using solo and pooled mining (each new coin starts at low difficulty, but adding more miners raises it, opening pool slots and lowering the solo mining profitability), difficulty changes (as explained) and market development (heavily investing in a coin may rise its price), while player interaction is achieved by event manipulation (the algorithm deck has double-sided cards with events on the back) and a limited set of exchange practices (holding or dumping, more will be added in the Exchanges expansion). There are limited set of ICO offerings add some risk-taking elements for the endgame.

Blockchain is using well known engine-building and worker placement mechanics, and the game features 85 mineable coins and 15 of the top assets, as well as 25 mining algorithms and a large number of upgrades, hardware, software and events.

The mechanics are pretty self explanatory for most gamers, but here are few more pieces of info – you start by building a rig (actually 4 slots for each player, all comes through cards from drafting and the market), mine on it by assigning hardware (workers), sell, dump or hodl at the end of a round. The little trick we used with the workers is that you actually assign a whole rig worth of them at once for each action point (4). Coins are populated with each new algo, and events are on the same cards, so whenever a new coin is out, conditional events trigger.

During the Kickcstarter campaign we will unlock new coins (you can help us with that, see the Voting paragraph further below, and we will have a stretch goal to unlock metal Bitcoin and Ethereum coins for the game (note that they are just game coins, and are not backed by real BTC or ETH).


How to get involved?


People can suggest new currencies to swap one of the coins, or solidify some currency position by votes.
Currenty the game includes 85 currencies and 25 algorithms, and we decided people should have some ways to add another currency to the game. Since the numbers are already announced in the BoardGameGeek board games database and we also based our mechanics around it, we'd prefer to keep it, and in case we add another coin, we would kick out some of the included. There are also paid additions, although personally I'm unsure if they should be listed in this forum, so I will probably open a thread in Services and move them there, leaving only a link.

Here is the list of cryptocurrencies and algos currently included:

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(MRG stands for merged mining, these are considered available to mine when the algo becomes available):
  • Equihash: Zcash, Zclassic, ZenCash, Hush, Komodo
  • lyra2v2: Verge, Vertcoin, Monacoin; MRG: Unitus
  • Blake2s: TajCoin, Verge, NevaCoin (BlakeStar - who would have guessed? and Info got a hold, so probably unlocked in KS?)
  • Neoscrypt: Feathercoin, Phoenixcoin
  • Xevan: BitSend
  • Decred: Decred
  • hmq1725: Topaz, Espers
  • Blake256: Blakecoin; MRG: UniversalMolecule, Photon
  • x17: Verge
  • Timetravel10: BitCore
  • Ethash: Ethereum, Ethereum Classic, Expanse, Ubiq + DUAL: Sia, Decred, Lbry, Pascal
  • Blake2-B: Sia
  • yescrypt: MyriadCoin, GlobalBoost; MRG: Unitus
  • x11-Gost: SibCoin
  • Scrypt: Joincoin, DigiByte, Einsteinium, FlorinCoin, Megacoin, BitConnect, LinX, e-Gulden, DNotes, Litecoin, Viacoin; MRG: MyriadCoin, Argentum, Dogecoin
  • SHA256: Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash (may be leave it for forks, but then ETC?), DigiByte, Peercoin, Zetacoin, Auroracoin, Unbreakable, Joincoin, PosEx; MRG: MyriadCoin, Argentum, Terracoin
  • Qubit: MyriadCoin, DigiByte, Aurora
  • Skein: Auroracoin, DigiByte, MyriadCoin; MRG: Unitus
  • Groestl: GroestlCoin
  • myr-gr: MyriadCoin, DigiByte, Auroracoin, Verge
  • skunkhash: Signatum
  • Pyraeum: Cryptumcoin
  • x11: MonetaryUnit, Joincoin, Condensate, Dash, DigitalPrice, Centurion, VirtaPlus, Torcoin, StartCOIN, Adzcoin; MRG: Unitus
  • nist5: Solaris, Virta Unique, Joincoin, Wyvern, Coinonat
  • lbry: LBRY
  • CryptoNight: Monero, Bytecoin, QuazarCoin, Dashcoin; MRG: Fanthomcoin
  • quark: Joincoin, BitQuark, PlatinumBAR, Quark
  • (TBA): VGZ


Voting

Please do not make empty posting votes. We are looking for meaningful arguments for swapping coins and decisions to make them stay in the list.

These are the ways to make sure a coin is included in the Blockchain board game. Any new coin to be included should have a fairly high-res logo available (preferably 1000px+), its algorithm should be already included in the list (otherwise see paid services), and non-offensive name (otherwise the game will have to be marked as 18+ in some markets, and we will not accept that):

Free voting:

In order to leave a free vote, just leave a message here like "I vote STAY for XXX" or "SWAP XXX for XXX" + the reason you want this. Again, please add some arguments why do you think it's a fair swap or a coin should definitely stay. We chose most of the coins based on their popularity or affiliation with an algorithm, and it was a lot of data to process, so we don't want to just throw a currency out because someone left a simple vote for no reason Smiley

  • [FREE] Vote STAY for a coin outside the "protected range" (see below) to stay - these votes are completely free, and we will consider them above our opinion so we won't kick any coin that has more STAY votes than SWAP OUT votes. "STAY" votes counter "SWAP OUT" votes, and any "STAY" vote with solid arguments will be considered as a further reason not to throw a coin out (we are not giving you any hints about that).
  • [FREE] Vote SWAP IN & OUT for a new coin to be included in the game + the coin to go out. This is also a free vote, but you should always vote for IN AND OUT. In case there is no coin to be kicked out or it was protected by a STAY vote, we may consider the coin you voted IN to be added as a stretch goal to the Kickstarter campaign of the base game or any of the 4 planned expansions. Note that these votes are not above our opinion, we reserve the right to refuse a swap if we consider it truly unfair (like throwing out well-known coin for something newly announced).
*Protected coins: our own TBA Cryptumcoin, and VGZ, which is still unannounced but we have agreement to include it. Also BTC, LTC, ZEC, ETH, DASH, LBRY, BTX, SIGT, SIB, DCR, BLAKE and any multi-algorithm or merged-mined coin.

Paid votes
These are paid for a reason - either because otherwise bots would skew the balance, or they involve a lot of work. Still, for a limited time (until ICO sale end) all of them can be paid as a part of the Cryptum ICO , essentially giving you CRTM and all of its features. Just let us know the tx id.

  • [0.05 BTC] Vote ADD AN EXPANSION COIN for a new cryptocurrency to be added as in the first of the expansions we announced - because this is susceptible to false profiles voting, this vote is not free.  The coin should follow the guidelines above: 1000px + logo, non-offensive name and algorithm already in the game.
  • [0.15 BTC] Vote ADD A COIN for a new cryptocurrency to be added to the game - we will decide which coin to throw out (taking into consideration STAY votes). This guarantees a place for your new coin in the game.  The coin should follow the guidelines above: 1000px + logo, non-offensive name and algorithm already in the game.
  • [0.75 BTC] Vote ADD A COIN AS A KS STRETCH GOAL for a cryptocurrency to be added to the game as an easy to unlock stretch goal, essentially including it in the KS mini-expansion for the game. In addition, we will pack its cards as retail promotion for the game with the first print. The coin should follow the guidelines above: 1000px + logo, non-offensive name and algorithm already in the game.
  • [1.0 BTC] Vote ADD A NEW ALGORITHM AND COIN AS A KS STRETCH GOAL for a coin to be added even if its algorithm is not listed. Currency will be added as an easy to unlock stretch goal, essentially including it in the KS mini-expansion for the game. In addition, we will pack its cards as retail promotion for the game with the first print. The coin should follow the guidelines above: 1000px + logo, non-offensive name.


P.S. A personal note:
Please spare us the sarcastic posts, especially regarding "now an ICO for board games". We've heard it, whatever it is, and we'd prefer not to enter meaningless fights. If you think you can do better at getting people outside the crypto world to know something about cryptocurrencies and mining in general, or you prefer to gloat over the uneducated masses - please do it and don't forget to inform us how successful you were.

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September 19, 2017, 11:22:57 AM
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So how do we vote for a coin, just type whatever we think should be included or? Any extra information besides the coin name and symbol?
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September 19, 2017, 11:39:04 AM
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Just added in the OP:
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In order to leave a free vote, just leave a message here like "I vote STAY for XXX" or "SWAP XXX for XXX" + the reason you want this. Again, please add some arguments why do you think it's a fair swap or why should a coin definitely stay. We chose most of the coins based on their popularity or affiliation with an algorithm, and it was a lot of data to process, so we don't want to just throw a currency out because someone left a simple vote for no reason Smiley

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September 19, 2017, 12:11:07 PM
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Just added in the OP:
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In order to leave a free vote, just leave a message here like "I vote STAY for XXX" or "SWAP XXX for XXX" + the reason you want this. Again, please add some arguments why do you think it's a fair swap or why should a coin definitely stay. We chose most of the coins based on their popularity or affiliation with an algorithm, and it was a lot of data to process, so we don't want to just throw a currency out because someone left a simple vote for no reason Smiley

I vote for Espers. Especially Espers on Yobit as some sort of booby prize Smiley
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September 19, 2017, 12:22:12 PM
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Just added in the OP:
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In order to leave a free vote, just leave a message here like "I vote STAY for XXX" or "SWAP XXX for XXX" + the reason you want this. Again, please add some arguments why do you think it's a fair swap or why should a coin definitely stay. We chose most of the coins based on their popularity or affiliation with an algorithm, and it was a lot of data to process, so we don't want to just throw a currency out because someone left a simple vote for no reason Smiley

Thanks, this clarifies things.

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September 19, 2017, 01:16:17 PM
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I vote for Espers. Especially Espers on Yobit as some sort of booby prize Smiley
Espers (ESP) on YoBit has been locked for I don't know how much time. The wallet there is in Maintenance mode for ages and they were the first exchange for the coin, so essentially they have fucked up a lot of people. As a result while the coin is still there a lot of coins are essentially locked on YoBit and some people lost faith in the coin, so it was one of the coins we'd kick if there is a paid addition. Though we will still consider it as the coin is not dead...

With al the hate for YoBit we should make a special inclusion for it in the Exchanges expansion when we get there next year - like a high-risk coin listing for the game - easy, but your coin can go to maintenance any moment  Tongue

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September 27, 2017, 12:43:17 AM
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Signatum is probably moving out of the protected range - until we are ready with the game it might not exist at all, considering the recent decision to delist it from Cryptopia. That makes it possible to include another algorithm, or SIGT would stay as a sign of failure.

On the bright side, we'll have shiny metal coins in the game Smiley

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October 24, 2017, 04:25:26 PM
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Can I vote ADD A COIN for Electroneum?
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October 24, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
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Can I vote ADD A COIN for Electroneum?
Sure, the fees for ADD A COIN are above in the OP.
For a free ADD you need to think which one to swap out for the new one.

It can't be Signatum, at the end we decided to use it as a timed opportunity instead of removing it. If the mechanism doesn't work well in the testing phase we'll just leave it out, right now it's the 86th anyway.

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October 31, 2017, 02:38:17 PM
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Swap OUT Unbreakable, PosEx, Adzcoin

Swap IN Vsync and may be AltCom and/or Magnatum.

If you want to change a whle algo, Swap OUT Groestl or Blake2-B/Sia and Swap IN hsr/Hshare and/or phi/Luxcoin
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December 26, 2017, 09:23:23 PM
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Any news on the development? Have you decided yet which coins are going to be included?

Swap in Pepecash & Counterparty. (Pepecash would be fun and go nice along dodge). Not sure which you should swap out instead. So just consider adding pepecash (you know the rare pepe meme frog)  Grin
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