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September 22, 2017, 11:03:56 AM
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Hi!

I'm trying to find statistics on geographic locations of ICOs (i.e. if a legal entity is used for ICO, where was it incorporated). Does anyone know of such source? All I could find was just a top 10 ICO compilation or references to individual cases.

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September 22, 2017, 11:35:31 AM
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I think it doesn't exist (didn't see anywhere). Even if it does it would be some kind of private information of different venture funds and organization which invest their money into stratups through ICO.

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September 22, 2017, 11:45:00 AM
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I'm thinking of compiling one myself based on whatever information is disclosed by ICO issuers and sharing the results here.

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September 22, 2017, 11:48:51 AM
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I'm thinking of compiling one myself based on whatever information is disclosed by ICO issuers and sharing the results here.
That sound good , lately country of origin for ICO has been one of the important factor after chinese stopped all upcoming ICOs backed by chinese company or people.

We might see similar steps from few other countries within this year so your compiled list might become helpful to all ICO  investors.

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September 22, 2017, 12:12:17 PM
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The most important thing about geography is to find out which country the team members are from.  This will tell you the probability of team members exaggerating or lying. 

https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016



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September 22, 2017, 12:26:35 PM
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does it really matter? if project is good it should not matter..

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September 22, 2017, 12:33:23 PM
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I think Russia is the biggest ICO publisher country. There are too many Russian teams on ICO's . But it doesn't matter if its a good project to invest.
And also don't forget China ban will change the game in few months.

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September 22, 2017, 01:04:03 PM
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I see lots of Russian names in ICOs, too, but I am not sure if the company's base is in Russia. Actually I am just reading their whitepaper and party member's old jobs. Maybe I am doing wrong but I don't care their places or names.

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September 22, 2017, 02:00:35 PM
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The location of the team members is important, but it's also important to know where the sale has legally happened.

An ICO is typically done through a legal entity (for tax and liability reasons, among other things). And this is what I am curious about.
We hear about Singapore and Switzerland being the lead, but I would like a more comprehensive list with other states.
Switzerland is fairly expensive, for example, Singapore has its limitations as well.


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September 22, 2017, 04:19:39 PM
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The most important thing about geography is to find out which country the team members are from.  This will tell you the probability of team members exaggerating or lying. 

https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016





From the corruption index I would trust only the top 5 but I thing almost no crypto comes from those countries.
Besides there is always flaws on those indicators like:
* You don't know which country donates more to the transparency org to get it's country flagged as "clean";
* If All countries have a 100% corrupt system, those who look more clean are in fact those who are not fighting corruption harder, or at least not effective against corruption;
* Judge citizens by it's politics class may not be representative;
* Crypto being a trust-less technology would not find broad adoption on countries where trust is common scenario;

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September 22, 2017, 04:22:38 PM
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does it really matter? if project is good it should not matter..
These days it matters a lot, there have been many scam ICO before where people lost more than a million because they haven't verified each of their team member. Most of the projects have linkedin profile of their team member, from which we can get pretty good idea about origin country of that ICO/project.

 
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September 22, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
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A lot of Russian persons in ICOs,,, and former Soviet nations. Usually one or two Chinese people in the team as well. For ICOs where I have seen addresses, it is usually in some offshore island like Cayman but usually in a hypercity like Singapore or London (UK). Strangely, for all the China uproar, I do not recall many China addresses.

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September 22, 2017, 04:34:49 PM
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does it really matter? if project is good it should not matter..

True !! Nobody knows Satoshi Nakamoto is really Japanese or just a pseudonym. What really matter is that he/she/it bring the tech we are based now and it is a tremendous success already !

It doesn't matter who someone was prior to bringing some good, what it matter is the good he is bringing.

But I know unfortunately there is a lot of crypto warfare now and if you look closely with Bitcoin being Japanese, Ethereum Russian, Iota German (Nazis) it will all look like the same Axies countries on the World War II.

Some people just don't support some very good tech if he knows it is coming from China or other Country he/she doesn't like.

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It is really hard to catch place information for icos. I saw cayman islands in one small project which was honest. But not all for lot others. I suppose there are dozens of icos coming from Russia.



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September 22, 2017, 05:07:14 PM
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does it really matter? if project is good it should not matter..

I completely agree. Location isn't something you should worry about. It's an ICO project itself, especially its long-term financial and development perspectives that matter.
But remember that due diligence is the first-of-all thing to do.
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does it really matter? if project is good it should not matter..

I completely agree. Location isn't something you should worry about. It's an ICO project itself, especially its long-term financial and development perspectives that matter.
But remember that due diligence is the first-of-all thing to do.

There are some ICO's where we can get to understand their potential according to their location, like a real estate ICO will yield differently in different continents, or like Paragon which is using Marijuana, legal aspects come into the ratio. It may not be an important thing to every ICO but it is needed in many.

 
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September 22, 2017, 11:58:53 PM
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My interest is mainly tied to regulations. You can do a good or a bad ICO/project in any jurisdiction. But it would be frustrating to do a good ICO and get shot down by a local regulator a month later because of a violation of local securities or AML regulations.

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My interest is mainly tied to regulations. You can do a good or a bad ICO/project in any jurisdiction. But it would be frustrating to do a good ICO and get shot down by a local regulator a month later because of a violation of local securities or AML regulations.

Excellent commentary sir. I'd dare to say that part of the ICO's success relies on this aspect.

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I see lots of Russian names in ICOs, too, but I am not sure if the company's base is in Russia. Actually I am just reading their whitepaper and party member's old jobs. Maybe I am doing wrong but I don't care their places or names.
Japan had invest to ICO too. See many thread focus on Japan and Russia local. 

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I don't think such a list exists .
But why would you care , you don't know where satoshi is from right.
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