Nitrogen Sports is trying to scam me over 0.25 BTC

[CostaRibeiro]

Hi guys,

Having a big problem with Nitrogen Sports, made some bets in Mayweather VS McGregor fight last month, I took the over 9,5 rounds. They settled this as a win and so I withdraw my funds, no problem.

Now I made a new deposit of 0,1 BTC and made it to 0,25 BTC and when I tried to withdraw it they simple took all my balance and now my account is negative. Wow, is this really happening?

Well, now I discovered that they changed the rule of those early boxing bets, so they ruled the fight as under 9,5 rounds. Really? I will not discuss if it is over or under, but I can not and will not pay for their mistakes. They settled the bets as a win and let me withdraw the money, if they think that this money does not belong to me they should have frozen my account, put at in a negative balance and ask me to polite give back my earnings, instead of it they let you deposit money, play, win and after it they simple but your balance negative.

Really hope that they don't put their reputation on the lame because of 0,25 BTC.

My user reference code is 869456.

[1714647692]

1714647692

[CostaRibeiro]

Nitrogen Sports Support at 9:43pm on September 24, 2017
Hello 869456,

Thank you very much for your patience. Your account has been blocked and your balance adjusted due to a misgrade back on august 26 Aug (Floyd Mayweather v Conor McGregor). We try to adjust the funds owed from betslips 10100302295 and 10100361761, but your current balance was not enough to cover and it shows negative balance of -0.04133000.

We will be expecting your reply in regards to the above assessment.

Best regards,
Greg


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Greg,

I just came to understand this and I will not accept this outcome, this is not fair and I feel I am getting scammed. Just filled some posts right now on bitcointalk.

Why my balance was not adjusted when you changed the grade? If you think that this money does not belong to me you had the right to frozen my account, put it in negative balance and email me asking to politely give back my earnings. Instead of it you let me deposit, play, win and so you just came and say: "Hey, look at the this money you just win? Look at the money you are planning to do so much things with it? It is not yours, its ours." Really? I just played this money in NFL today and I cheered and had so a great time for you to come here and just took it?

This money is not that money, its my funds that I deposited today, that I played and that I won, I have the total right in it.

As I said in my bitcointalk thread I really hopes that nitrogen solve this, it isn't fair to let you deposit, play and win and after it just come and take everything.

Best.

[giveen]

Obviously man you should have had some senses no site will personally send you a email telling to return the funds you won when it was a error from their and even if they do they know people will not return the funds and will never gamble on their site again. It has happened with me also in past i withdrew my earnings from sportsbet my balance was 0.1 btc more i asked their live chat they told everything is fine next time i deposited 0.01 btc as i knew they might cause some problems when i tried to withdraw they asked for kyc and blocked my account.
You can still wait nitrogensports support on this forum is active and mostly will reply to your issue.

Edit :

They could just locked my account when I sent the deposit, you could call it a scam anyway, but let you deposit, play and win? This is simple an unfair action from their side.

If you read what i wrote your question was already answered. Locking your account would mean it will be a loss for them.

[CostaRibeiro]

Obviously man you should have had some senses no site will personally send you a email telling to return the funds you won when it was a error from their and even if they do they know people will not return the funds and will never gamble on their site again. It has happened with me also in past i withdrew my earnings from sportsbet my balance was 0.1 btc more i asked their live chat they told everything is fine next time i deposited 0.01 btc as i knew they might cause some problems when i tried to withdraw they asked for kyc and blocked my account.
You can still wait nitrogensports support on this forum is active and mostly will reply to your issue.
Edit : Exactly what i was telling you it is your fault who told you to deposit again they are a business after all.

They could just locked my account when I sent the deposit, you could call it a scam anyway, but let you deposit, play and win? This is simple an unfair action from their side.

[CostaRibeiro]

Just got banned from their live chat.

Many asking: "Why you deposit back here if they misgraded their bet? You could just have run with their money." Well, in all major books this fight was graded over 9.5, I had no idea that nitrogen changed it, the fight had 10 rounds.

Their rules are probably different and as I said I am not questioning it.

[CostaRibeiro]

If you read what i wrote your question was already answered. Locking your account would mean it will be a loss for them.

If you manage a business and you make a mistake sometimes you have to take the responsibility for your actions, well, they graded it as over 9.5, like all other bookies did, as the fight had 10 rounds.

If their rule is different they should have noted, well they let you withdraw the money and simple does not say nothing to you? Well, if they feel that money does not belong to me they should have claimed it right there.

If I make a mistake and someone makes a profit, without abusing, or cheating or everything like it, does I have the right to cease the person money to take mine resources backs? Well, I don't think so.

[Heritagesports]

Look, they are not in the wrong. Look at their rules, they explain this. Get over yourself

[ybsok]

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[DarkDays]

Just got banned from their live chat.

Many asking: "Why you deposit back here if they misgraded their bet? You could just have run with their money." Well, in all major books this fight was graded over 9.5, I had no idea that nitrogen changed it, the fight had 10 rounds.

Their rules are probably different and as I said I am not questioning it.

No, you are in the wrong on this one.

The fight did not go over 9.5 rounds.  The fight was stopped at 1:05 in the 10th round.  So they found for 9 rounds (the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th) and 1:05 minutes of the 10th.  In order for your bet to win, they would have had to fight past the halfway point of the 10th round (that's what .5 means).  So you lost by 25 seconds. 

The fact that they misgraded the bet initially doesn't mean you are owed the money.  They corrected their mistake very quickly and you shadily had withdrawn the ill gotten gains by then.  They have every right to confiscate your future deposits until you paid them back the money you owe them.

[buwaytress]

I'm with DarkDays on this one. It's actually pretty clear cut. You tried (successfully) to take winnings from a misgraded wager. Nitrogen is actually one of the better bookies out there simply because they grade quickly... but of course, they do run the risk of making mistakes like in this fight.

You seem to acknowledge yourself that you shouldn't have won this, and had you read their full terms and conditions, you'd find yourself the guilty party. Every bookie graded this at UNDER 9.5 in the end. A mistake was made, and they were merely correcting it.

[NitrogenSports]

Hello CostaRibeiro,

As you're aware, there was a misgrading error for the May Mac event on the O/U line.

However, we corrected those errors by reversing the grades-- and that means awarding the correct winning bets and taking back from what actually were losing wagers, which included the "over" bet.

The first withdrawal was made immediately after the fight but before the misgrade was corrected. This put us in a tough spot where we can't get back the funds since most were gone already by the time we were correcting the wagers/grades. But because you decided to deposit with us again, the system identified the flagged account and thus made a correction from a previous misgraded wager.

We understand that our communication could have been better site-side, but we have to be able to correct misgrades via account corrections.

For any other questions, don't hesitate to PM us. Thank you,

-Jason

[CostaRibeiro]

Just got banned from their live chat.

Many asking: "Why you deposit back here if they misgraded their bet? You could just have run with their money." Well, in all major books this fight was graded over 9.5, I had no idea that nitrogen changed it, the fight had 10 rounds.

Their rules are probably different and as I said I am not questioning it.

No, you are in the wrong on this one.

The fight did not go over 9.5 rounds.  The fight was stopped at 1:05 in the 10th round.  So they found for 9 rounds (the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th) and 1:05 minutes of the 10th.  In order for your bet to win, they would have had to fight past the halfway point of the 10th round (that's what .5 means).  So you lost by 25 seconds.  

The fact that they misgraded the bet initially doesn't mean you are owed the money.  They corrected their mistake very quickly and you shadily had withdrawn the ill gotten gains by then.  They have every right to confiscate your future deposits until you paid them back the money you owe them.

If I make a mistake and someone makes a profit, without abusing, or cheating or everything like it, does I have the right to cease the person's money to take mine resources backs? Well, I don't think so.

Just for the record, Pinnacle, bet365 and all the other books have the fight graded as over 10 rounds, by their rule if the fight enter the 10 round it is already over 9,5.

[CostaRibeiro]

I'm with DarkDays on this one. It's actually pretty clear cut. You tried (successfully) to take winnings from a misgraded wager. Nitrogen is actually one of the better bookies out there simply because they grade quickly... but of course, they do run the risk of making mistakes like in this fight.

You seem to acknowledge yourself that you shouldn't have won this, and had you read their full terms and conditions, you'd find yourself the guilty party. Every bookie graded this at UNDER 9.5 in the end. A mistake was made, and they were merely correcting it.

LOL

Do you really think that I tried to take winnings from a misgraded wager and after successfully making it I just decided to came back and deposit again?

By their ruled I should not won, I am not question this, I am questioning they taking over my new deposit, that is my money by right.

Just for the record, Pinnacle, bet365 and all the other books have the fight graded as over 10 rounds, by their rule if the fight enter the 10 round it is already over 9,5.

[CostaRibeiro]

Hello CostaRibeiro,

As you're aware, there was a misgrading error for the May Mac event on the O/U line.

However, we corrected those errors by reversing the grades-- and that means awarding the correct winning bets and taking back from what actually were losing wagers, which included the "over" bet.

The first withdrawal was made immediately after the fight but before the misgrade was corrected. This put us in a tough spot where we can't get back the funds since most were gone already by the time we were correcting the wagers/grades. But because you decided to deposit with us again, the system identified the flagged account and thus made a correction from a previous misgraded wager.

We understand that our communication could have been better site-side, but we have to be able to correct misgrades via account corrections.

For any other questions, don't hesitate to PM us. Thank you,

-Jason

Jason, I understand that this put you in a tough spot, but again, this don't give you the right to take over clients future winnings with no communication. Thats your fault for grading under, as I said I was not aware that you rule for boxing it's different. I did not exploited this, as I wouldn't deposit again if I were trying to "scam" you, do you agree?

If you manage a business like this sometimes you have to take a loss for doing the wrong thing, as you took with everybody that do not deposited again. The system already knew that my account was flagged, why I was not informed? Why did you let me deposit? Why did you let me play my deposit? Would be safe to you to just take the first 0,1BTC deposit, no? I could lost that first bet.

Your communication have to be better, this is unacceptable, but the problem here is not the communication, as I said many times, you don't have the right to "scam" anyone because you make a mistake, this isn't how reputable business take their operation.

[Heritagesports]

What would you say if the bet was originally graded as a loss for you, and really should have been a win? Should they not correct it after the fact?

[CostaRibeiro]

What would you say if the bet was originally graded as a loss for you, and really should have been a win? Should they not correct it after the fact?

As I said many times, I am not discussing it, I am complaining about the way they did it, just to scam me out of my new deposit.

They should correct it, of course, and advise all members that made a withdraw that their accounts are flagged and with a negative balance. You may say: "If they did this they would not recoup any money." Yes, it sounds true, thats that part when you have to pay for your mistakes and not try to scam a client to take back a resource that you "lost" for making such a big mistake.

Waiting a reply from some manager of the site, this is unacceptable.

[Heritagesports]

You are such a dumb sack of crap

[CostaRibeiro]

You are such a dumb sack of crap

Thank you for bumping the thread.

[DarkDays]

If I make a mistake and someone makes a profit, without abusing, or cheating or everything like it, does I have the right to cease the person's money to take mine resources backs? Well, I don't think so.

You'd think wrong.  If you own the site that the mistake happened on, and you corrected the mistake in a matter of minutes, you absolutely have the right to correct the mistake and not be stolen from.

Just for the record, Pinnacle, bet365 and all the other books have the fight graded as over 10 rounds, by their rule if the fight enter the 10 round it is already over 9,5.

Show me slips where that's the case.  You can't, because it's not, because 9.3 is under both 9.5 and 10.

[Wendigo]

Both sides acted unethically so what's the point of making this thread? You pocketed money you shouldn't have had in the first place without consulting the site then the site seized your deposit in an attempt to recoup the loss they had incurred releasing money they shouldn't have without consulting you. In short a moot point lol.