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September 25, 2017, 08:54:38 PM
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If I make a mistake and someone makes a profit, without abusing, or cheating or everything like it, does I have the right to cease the person's money to take mine resources backs? Well, I don't think so.

You'd think wrong.  If you own the site that the mistake happened on, and you corrected the mistake in a matter of minutes, you absolutely have the right to correct the mistake and not be stolen from.

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Just for the record, Pinnacle, bet365 and all the other books have the fight graded as over 10 rounds, by their rule if the fight enter the 10 round it is already over 9,5.


Show me slips where that's the case.  You can't, because it's not, because 9.3 is under both 9.5 and 10.




I do not own the site for the mistake they made, how can you say that? I am the client, I do not settled bets, it's Nitrogen sole responsibility to grade bets correctly and only allow withdraws that are entitled to the owner.



Again, by their rules the correct grade is the UNDER but this does not allow them to take over my new deposit and my new winnings.
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September 25, 2017, 09:00:41 PM
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Both sides acted unethically so what's the point of making this thread? You pocketed money you shouldn't have had in the first place without consulting the site then the site seized your deposit in an attempt to recoup the loss they had incurred releasing money they shouldn't have without consulting you. In short a moot point lol.

How can you say that I acted unethically?

The official result is 10 rounds, as the fight scorecard posted above, in many other books when the fight enter the 10th round it is already over 9.5, no matter what happens. Do you really think that I pocketed the money knowing that it shouldn't be mine and so I made a new deposit using the same account?

I did not consult the site because for me there were no problems with those bets, the proof of it is that I made a new deposit with them. But the site knowing that my account was in debit did not put it in negative balance nether notified me about it. Wow, who is being unethical here?

The site did not seized my deposit, It let me play it and after, when I tried to withdraw they blocked my account, now I can't even log in to check the support tickets, they blocked my IP aswell.

Can't recommend Nitrogen, they seens legit but if you have any kind of problem they will simple kick you out and take your money.
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September 26, 2017, 05:05:34 AM
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You are still crying no one is going to tag nitrogen sports it is not their fault in the first place this is a online world it will never be perfect no matter how much time they invest or who they hire this was again a glitch from their site you withdrew your funds immediately not something they can do about it but instead they put a outstanding balance in your account which doesn't need any explaination you again deposited funds now it was there chance and they recovered the money you got from a glitch.
As far 10 rounds is considered he lost in the 10th round so over 9.5 is a loss.
Edit : If i had to make a post for campaign i would just post a 2 liner and f**k off you are in denial it's your foolishness.
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September 26, 2017, 12:00:29 PM
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You are still crying no one is going to tag nitrogen sports it is not their fault in the first place this is a online world it will never be perfect no matter how much time they invest or who they hire this was again a glitch from their site you withdrew your funds immediately not something they can do about it but instead they put a outstanding balance in your account which doesn't need any explaination you again deposited funds now it was there chance and they recovered the money you got from a glitch.
As far 10 rounds is considered he lost in the 10th round so over 9.5 is a loss.

I am not crying, I am alerting about this unfair situation.

Still waiting for a reasonable position from Nitrogen Staff.

I know you have to make long posts for those bullshit campaigns, but spamming here with the same thing will not help.
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September 26, 2017, 12:03:11 PM
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As DICKPIXTHROWAWAY said on the reddit topic:

"Coming from a LONG time customer (sub-$100/BTC when I made my first Nitrogen account) and big supporter, this is a pretty bad answer.
Did you alert the player that there had been a mistake and their account was effectively a negative balance before allowing the player to deposit? If not, you basically stole your own money back. Which is still stealing.
If you are going to accept deposits and bets, you need to pay them out. If you plan to make the customer pay for your error, at a BARE MINIMUM you need to alert them of their negative balance BEFORE allowing the customer to make additional deposits/bets. Otherwise, you have players making 0-equity bets on your sportsbook which is a position a customer should ever be in (particularly if they aren't even aware they are doing it)."

https://www.reddit.com/r/nitrogensports/comments/7295fp/nitrogen_sports_is_trying_to_scam_me_over_025_btc/
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September 26, 2017, 01:23:23 PM
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Moron, like I said before, if your bet was originally a loss and should have been a win would you not expect a regrade?
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September 26, 2017, 03:07:24 PM
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Moron, like I said before, if your bet was originally a loss and should have been a win would you not expect a regrade?

Thanks for bumping the thread bro.
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September 26, 2017, 06:49:10 PM
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Moron, like I said before, if your bet was originally a loss and should have been a win would you not expect a regrade?

Thanks for bumping the thread bro.

You've ducked answering his question twice because it would reveal how false your argument is.

Answer his question.

There is no chance of Nitro giving you their money back, nor should they.

This is by no means a scam on their part.
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September 26, 2017, 06:58:42 PM
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Do you get NO ONE agrees with you?
Yes, answer my question
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September 26, 2017, 07:10:43 PM
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Moron, like I said before, if your bet was originally a loss and should have been a win would you not expect a regrade?

Thanks for bumping the thread bro.

You've ducked answering his question twice because it would reveal how false your argument is.

Answer his question.

There is no chance of Nitro giving you their money back, nor should they.

This is by no means a scam on their part.

I already answered his question, just read the thread. I made a new confirmed deposit, play with it and won, this is my money by right, no matter what you say, I was not advised any time since August that there were any debits open, If I owe them money why they did not claimed it before? Stealing back "their" money its not the way that legit business run their operations.

The point here is simple, does Nitrogen has the right to steal my deposit? After allowing me to deposit and play with it? Of course they do not.
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September 26, 2017, 07:12:24 PM
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What would you say if the bet was originally graded as a loss for you, and really should have been a win? Should they not correct it after the fact?

As I said many times, I am not discussing it, I am complaining about the way they did it, just to scam me out of my new deposit.

They should correct it, of course, and advise all members that made a withdraw that their accounts are flagged and with a negative balance. You may say: "If they did this they would not recoup any money." Yes, it sounds true, thats that part when you have to pay for your mistakes and not try to scam a client to take back a resource that you "lost" for making such a big mistake.

Waiting a reply from some manager of the site, this is unacceptable.
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September 27, 2017, 02:05:10 AM
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Just for the record, Pinnacle, bet365 and all the other books have the fight graded as over 10 rounds, by their rule if the fight enter the 10 round it is already over 9,5.


Still waiting on you to show these slips that I asked you to provide days ago.  You made a bold claim, and one that would support your argument.  Where is the prof?

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I do not own the site for the mistake they made, how can you say that? I am the client, I do not settled bets, it's Nitrogen sole responsibility to grade bets correctly and only allow withdraws that are entitled to the owner.

You're not being reasonable.  They made a mistake.  Mistakes happen.  You helped them rectify the mistake by redepositing the money that you weren't entitled to.  Good for you.  You lost a bet and you paid it off.  Be happy that you did the right thing and not crying like a bitch because you didn't steal money. 

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Again, by their rules the correct grade is the UNDER but this does not allow them to take over my new deposit and my new winnings.

If the correct grade is UNDER, it absolutely allows them to correct a mistake. 

That's why they are allowed to do it.

Because you lost the bet.
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September 27, 2017, 02:13:28 AM
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its better if you ran away the money you think that scam you and just register a new account and deposit. its not hard right?

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September 27, 2017, 07:25:54 AM
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The only thing you can do is to create 10 bitcointalk account and say everywhere they scamed you, you go on their thread and you say it. Destroy their reputation, that's all you can do now
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September 27, 2017, 08:20:31 AM
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1) You wrongfully won a bet in the first place and took the money(This money was never yours),whereby YOU made a LOSS to the sports book Company.
2) Next you made a second deposited amount (Regardless of the fact what you did with this second deposit or won from it, YOU still OWED money to the Company to the extent of LOSS you caused to them from the first bet), now YOU and the Company are EVEN, so stop.
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September 28, 2017, 12:31:31 AM
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Just for the record, Pinnacle, bet365 and all the other books have the fight graded as over 10 rounds, by their rule if the fight enter the 10 round it is already over 9,5.


Still waiting on you to show these slips that I asked you to provide days ago.  You made a bold claim, and one that would support your argument.  Where is the prof?

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I do not own the site for the mistake they made, how can you say that? I am the client, I do not settled bets, it's Nitrogen sole responsibility to grade bets correctly and only allow withdraws that are entitled to the owner.

You're not being reasonable.  They made a mistake.  Mistakes happen.  You helped them rectify the mistake by redepositing the money that you weren't entitled to.  Good for you.  You lost a bet and you paid it off.  Be happy that you did the right thing and not crying like a bitch because you didn't steal money. 

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Again, by their rules the correct grade is the UNDER but this does not allow them to take over my new deposit and my new winnings.

If the correct grade is UNDER, it absolutely allows them to correct a mistake. 

That's why they are allowed to do it.

Because you lost the bet.

I did not bet in this fight in other exchanges, and again, It's not relevant, I already said that the correct result is UNDER, I am not discussing this.

They made a mistake, mistakes happen but you have to take the responsibility! You can't do the right thing in the wrong way, simple as that, you can steal someone, no matter what, that's not how a reputable business run their operation.

Yes, they have the right to correct the mistake, we agree on that, so why they did notified me last month when they revert the grade? Why did they not emailed me about it? Why did them did not put my balance in negative? If you want to correct something you need to make it to the other part, no?
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September 28, 2017, 12:35:53 AM
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1) You wrongfully won a bet in the first place and took the money(This money was never yours),whereby YOU made a LOSS to the sports book Company.
2) Next you made a second deposited amount (Regardless of the fact what you did with this second deposit or won from it, YOU still OWED money to the Company to the extent of LOSS you caused to them from the first bet), now YOU and the Company are EVEN, so stop.

1) How this money was never mine? They allow me to withdraw it and don't claimed, if this money wasn't mine why they did not asked for it? I did not made any loss to the sportsbook, they made when they misgrade the bet.

2) You can't just steal your "own" money back, this is still stealing.
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September 28, 2017, 04:54:50 AM
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It wasn't your money because it was a technical mistake by the company, and you withdrew it  before they could rectify.
Get over it
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September 28, 2017, 04:55:58 AM
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It wasn't your money because it was a technical mistake by the company, and you withdrew it  before they could rectify.
Get over it
They basically took back their money regardless of what you may think
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September 28, 2017, 07:35:20 AM
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Yes, they have the right to correct the mistake, we agree on that, so why they did notified me last month when they revert the grade? Why did they not emailed me about it? Why did them did not put my balance in negative? If you want to correct something you need to make it to the other part, no?

No.  Again, you aren't being reasonable.  You cashed out ill-gotten gains in a tiny period of time.  They had no reason to suspect that you were being honest, especially if it was your entire roll.  They knew the only way to get you to do the right thing was to not say anything and hope you were so full of yourself that you'd deposit again. 

You lost the bet.  You agree to that now, even though you were lying about "other books" before.  This is a good thing.  If they had contacted you and informed you of this mistake would you have returned their money?  If yes, then there's no discussion needed...you wanted to do the right thing and did.  If no, then you're a piece of shit and they were right in not trusting you and karma got you. 
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