BitFunder - Lets grow together! A request to all users - https://bitfunder.com

[Ukyo]

Hello everyone,

I have a request for anyone who is willing to read this. (Even you Burnside! ) And especially users who do not currently use BitFunder.
I have been spending the last few weeks tracking down and fixing small bugs here and there that have really been annoying people and have a few left to go.

What would it take to bring new people into BitFunder?

Also, what would current users love to see the most first?

While I do have some very exciting things in the background going for WeExchange that should become public in the next few weeks, I am still very committed to BitFunder.

Thing's in the works, some more ready than others.

* Authenticated Trading API
* Read-Only REST API (Yes Namworld, I know. )
* Notifications Center ( Full options suite of E-Mail and global SMS notification options )
* Asset Analysts pages

What else would people like to see?

For the record, yes, I know some people are not happy with the WeExchange requirement, however I intend to give it at least another month or two to see how the big changes with WeExchange effect this. But by all means, if it's a major issue stopping you from using BitFunder, please say so.
Please keep in mind, having WeExchange handle BTC helps protect both it, and you. It also helps to make sure BitFunder remains speedy.

Trade fees: So far, no one has complained to me about our fee structure being the reason to not use BitFunder, but I am open to suggestions.
Would anyone be willing to say thats a primary reason for not using BitFunder?

Someone asked for a trollbox. Sure, why not if people really want it. Thoughts?

I am hoping to have the new trading API further along in the next week. It would be nice to get that going.

Along with that, the new websocket system will also update all page information live, including things like balances.
This means trades will no longer require actual page submissions once fully setup.
For those of you not aware, if you have websocket enabled under 'Settings', then the order books should be 100% live.

As I have said before, BitFunder is made for the community. If the community has demands, let's hear them!

Again, even if I have it listed here already, if it means something to you, either that it really annoys you, something you really want, or something stopping you from using BitFunder, say it here and make it clear.

Oh, and feel free to discuss it in #bitfunder on irc.freenode.net ( You can also use the easy IRC tab on the BitFunder Help page to come chat with us. )

Thank you for your time and support!
Ukyo

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[Caesium]

The margin-left: -30px on the .row class annoys me the most, everything on the page below the header is shifted left - does nobody else see this?

(Firefox/Aurora on OSX)


The WeExchange requirement was just another hurdle for me. I opened BitFunder and BTCT at the same time, with the sole intention of getting some ASICMINER-PT - you wanted me to go sign up to another website just to get some money in, BTCT didn't, so I went with the one that gave me less work.

[Ukyo]

The margin-left: -30px on the .row class annoys me the most, everything on the page below the header is shifted left - does nobody else see this?

(Firefox/Aurora on OSX)


The WeExchange requirement was just another hurdle for me. I opened BitFunder and BTCT at the same time, with the sole intention of getting some ASICMINER-PT - you wanted me to go sign up to another website just to get some money in, BTCT didn't, so I went with the one that gave me less work.

Well, the margin was an easy fix. Thanks for pointing it out!

I appreciate your thoughts on WeExchange, it will go a long ways towards future decisions for BitFunder, along with all the others I am sure to get.

-Ukyo

[ThickAsThieves]

Glad to see this thread, and I really hope people chime in.

I use almost all of the exchanges, so I am already intimately familiar with the differences.

1. For me, Weex is a non-issue. I see it as a bonus layer of security that is no more inconvenient than BTCTC's manual withdrawals.

2. Trading fees are a bit high for new users, but I trade enough to where I have a high Tier and it's less of an issue for me.

3. BTCTC has some subtle, yet very useful little features, like bolding the Ask/Bid when it's me that represents that order; showing full market data within the My Portfolio page, etc. But I also LOVE Bitfunder's live order books.

4. Personally, I hate bots, and I think they deter humans from making more frequent orders, possibly making them zero sum for volume. However, I understand the need for APIs. If bots started to get out of hand on BF, I know I'd trade less.

5. Notifications, yes please, but not high priority for me.

6. Direct BitFunder coin accounts would be very useful, and could coexist with Weex really. I think the barrier with Weex is that many people have trouble with creating their accounts, mostly due to confirmation emails getting lost in limbo/spam. You have already implemented direct Litecoin compatibility, why not Bitcoin too?

7. A chatbox on a stock exchange would be interesting for sure. I'd love to see it, but worry about what degree of moderation would be required. Not sure if this degrades the professionalism of the site...

I probably have more I could think of, but I'll let the thread live a little first. I need to think about some of the things Havelock has that might be worth comparing.

[Caesium]

Thanks for the margin fix - that looks better - but now .span12 (the table holding 'View Asset Market') is shifted 30px to the right, because of it's own margin-left, creating a horizontal scrollbar.

[Bonam]

Current user here.

Margin and short-selling would be nice additions.

[Franktank]

Current user here.

Margin and short-selling would be nice additions.

Margin and shortselling would expose BF to risk. A better way to do it would be to allow folks with BTC to facilitate those options on BitFunder at their own rates.

[murfshake]

When scoping out both exchanges, I initially thought BTC-TC did not appear as user friendly, but in the end I decided I would use both exchanges to try them out.  I like both, but I will not add to my BitFunder portfolio due to the higher fees for small time traders.  I have 15 BTC in BitFunder and 15 BTC in BTC-TC, and I will not be putting any more in BitFunder since the rate is higher.

The Weed Exchange didn't bother me too much but it does add a lot more time to get trades in since they require 7 confirms, then a whole seperate trade, where as BTC-TC only requires 3 confirms so your trades can be done within 30 minutes, instead of over 1 hr.

Also, without a "market analysis' function like BTC-TC has you just don't offer nearly as much to the end user.

As it stands, you have potential, but I will not be putting any more funds in to BitFunder until the fees are lowered or it tailors to the buyer for statistical analysis and market breakdown.

Once you have that all done, release an Android app.

Good luck,

[hf]

Suggestion : bug bounty program.

Makes it feel more secure.

[Ukyo]

Thanks for the margin fix - that looks better - but now .span12 (the table holding 'View Asset Market') is shifted 30px to the right, because of it's own margin-left, creating a horizontal scrollbar.

The issue is not that it is shifted to the right. It is a button/tab which has padding to the sides of it. When selected, it lines up perfectly.
To make it more appealing, I offset the BitFunder logo to the right more.

[jmutch]

High fees made me take my volume to btct.co.....first thing i would change.

I like the appearance. I think trollbox would be fun, but definitely not professional.

[Sukrim]

1. weexchange.co's service is horrible (I have an open ticket there for now ~1 week) - please do provide alternatives!

2. Allow pricing in something else than BTC (it can still be only traded in BTC) such as LTC, USD, EUR...

3. Integrate ColoredCoins via OpenTransactions and/or Ripple IOUs so people can actually own shares, not Bitfunder IOUs of IOUs of companies (or even other IOUs).

4. Allow me to offer shares (and BTC!) to people who want to short sell/long buy.

5. An actual registration address + contact information would be nice too

[Morblias]

It would be nice to have a custom Y axis graph. Currently this just looks like a straight line (with a couple bumps), even though most of the trades vary slightly:



It would be nice for me to manually set it to show between BTC2-3 to show a better picture.

[luke.watson]

2. Allow pricing in something else than BTC (it can still be only traded in BTC) such as LTC, USD, EUR...

How would the price for shares be calculated - there's no exact trade value for BTC to USD or LTC etc - they'd have to be set on an exchange..

And this would assume that BitFunder has a stock pile of BTC that they're happy to accept LTC and USD for - it doesn't seem like a practical alternative..

If they added LTC companies which you can buy and sell shares of it would work, but I dont think it works for buying BTC shares for LTC

[pekv2]

What would it take to bring new people into BitFunder?

For one, no fee for withdraw. Two, no minimum withdraw limit.

These are the only two I really ask for, like how GLBSE had it. All these other stock places like cryptostocks, have these annoying regulations in place, keeping your funds.

[Ukyo]

It would be nice to have a custom Y axis graph. Currently this just looks like a straight line (with a couple bumps), even though most of the trades vary slightly:



It would be nice for me to manually set it to show between BTC2-3 to show a better picture.

This is supposed to be dynamic. I have a ticket in with Highcharts at the moment.

[Ukyo]

What would it take to bring new people into BitFunder?

For one, no fee for withdraw. Two, no minimum withdraw limit.

These are the only two I really ask for, like how GLBSE had it. All these other stock places like cryptostocks, have these annoying regulations in place, keeping your funds.

There is no fee to withdraw...

[pekv2]

What would it take to bring new people into BitFunder?

For one, no fee for withdraw. Two, no minimum withdraw limit.

These are the only two I really ask for, like how GLBSE had it. All these other stock places like cryptostocks, have these annoying regulations in place, keeping your funds.

There is no fee to withdraw...

What about minimum withdraw limit? 0.005 should be suffice for minimum.

[Ukyo]

What would it take to bring new people into BitFunder?

For one, no fee for withdraw. Two, no minimum withdraw limit.

These are the only two I really ask for, like how GLBSE had it. All these other stock places like cryptostocks, have these annoying regulations in place, keeping your funds.

There is no fee to withdraw...

What about minimum withdraw limit? 0.005 should be suffice for minimum.

Currently it is at 0.01 to stop system spam attempts due to free transfers.

[pekv2]

What would it take to bring new people into BitFunder?

For one, no fee for withdraw. Two, no minimum withdraw limit.

These are the only two I really ask for, like how GLBSE had it. All these other stock places like cryptostocks, have these annoying regulations in place, keeping your funds.

There is no fee to withdraw...

What about minimum withdraw limit? 0.005 should be suffice for minimum.

Currently it is at 0.01 to stop system spam attempts due to free transfers.

Can't complain I suppose, as there is no withdraw fee. Like to see atleast anything 0.005 minimum, for this type of amount, limit withdraw once at every three days to a week to stop spam withdraws. If you catch my drift?