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September 29, 2017, 10:47:32 PM
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Give it time; we're still in the early adoption stages.

Just HODL your coins and everything will work out just fine

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September 29, 2017, 10:59:16 PM
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I've always considered myself as somewhat of a techie, and I had a hard time figuring cryptocurrency at first. When they make it easy to use crypto, like with a credit card, without knowing or caring what's going on in the background, then people will use.


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September 29, 2017, 11:13:53 PM
Last edit: September 30, 2017, 12:43:29 AM by Hyperme.sh
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https://e11.io - we will help crypto go mainstream with projects like CryptoWars, a mobile strategic game on the blockchain, meant to be played by everyone - introducing crypto concepts to the world.

I think we should talk. I will send you a PM.

it's complicated and confusing.
HUGE learning curve.
most people are stupid.

True, but overcoming those aspects alone is not sufficient for cracking the nut of mass adoption.

I've always considered myself as somewhat of a techie, and I had a hard time figuring cryptocurrency at first. When they make it easy to use crypto, like with a credit card, without knowing or caring what's going on in the background, then people will use.

Not just easy, but we need that the masses will not even know they are using crypto or a decentralized ledger.

The masses do not given a shit about the motor inside their car. They only care that the car runs. They are interested in the benefit of the car.

Patience, it's getting there. As it grows it will become easier to use and more accessible. With this it will grow quicker. You're looking at a ball that's just started rolling.

Not really.

The critical mass though has been attained at the level of fundraising and network effects in the development ecosystem, yet I do not think we yet have any projects that truly understand mass adoption. No projects I know of have any viable plan for mass adoption (just a lot of naive BS).

I don't get what's holding us back. Every time I talk about crypto with a family member or someone at work their eyes glaze over.

I feel like I'm the weirdo talking about klingon mating rituals!

Which makes me wonder - why are we still on the fringe? What could we do to take blockchain technology and make it accessible for everyone?

Anyway, that's my rant for today...

What do you think?

The problem is there is no compelling use case.

The masses do not share your ideological reasons. They need some actual benefit that entices them.

In short, no one has presented a killer app yet.

I will launch something soon to try to experiment with finding the killer app.

I can’t state the name yet. Too preliminary.

People need to understand blockchain as a revolutionising technology which is very likely to disrupt our established money system.

Disagree. We will never get mass adoption if you expect the masses to want lawlessness and anarchy. The masses do not care about your ideological fetish.

It's rather simple: People in the western world don't need an alternative to their fiat currencies in daily life. When would you need bitcoin as a member of a 1st world country in your daily endeavors? Pretty much never.

Bingo. Correct.

In the leading countries the people have enough income to provide for their needs. Why would they look for something new?

They’re always looking for something new online. But silly Bitcoin doesn’t offer any benefit they find interesting.

Our job is to apply decentralized ledgers to things they find interesting in clever paradigm-shifts that grab their interest and cause them to spend their time online in our apps.

Just wait for the steve jobs of crypto to come and tell people how awesome it is. They will eventually fall in love with it just like they did with apple products. Perhaps you are not "selling" crypto the right way to your family and friends.

That could possibly be me. Actually I am connected to Steve Jobs through my former boss who was recruited by Steve Jobs.

As a app developer, I think crypto can really benefit the app space in terms of payment systems.

Yes but not in the way you may be thinking. The key is that the app must be designed such that the payment could only be done with a decentralized ledger. This is where we invert the argument against ChangeTip inside-out and show that subscriptions are not ideal and nanotransactions are more ideal for some models of gamification.

Think about it this way. Would you like to have 10,000 subscriptions? How could you manage that cognitive load?

But it’s not also sufficient to state “nanotransactions” as some magic bullet. There must be compelling gamefication that drives an app ecosystem from a profit perspective.

Some projects that I am currently following that in corporate in-app crypto are: OpenMoney, Kin.

Lolz. Did you also invest in Pets.com?

As an app developer who has been wanting to incorporate allow acceptance of crypto into our apps, Kin and OpenMoney are both interesting to me - in particular Open Money is solving a problem that's been an issue for us for years. I think overall we are headed in the right direction.

Lolz. What came first, the hen or the egg?

“Build it and they will come” even though no one has OpenMoney tokens and nobody will buy them. Brilliant.  Roll Eyes

…they'd rather spend their time over meaningless things like Facebook

Meaningless? Are you sure. Is your bias rational?

Whats holding us back is its TOO FKING HARD TO BUY!! Roll Eyes

They shouldn’t have to buy it. Investors should buy it. They should receive it for participating. Study the example of how Ford Motor company kickstarted the US industrial economy by paying his workers enough to buy cars.

ICO's are going mainstream, but cryptos themselves aren't needed much in the 1st world countries (yet) except for digital gold (bitcoin).

Thus crypto is only about selling empty speculation bags to greater fools, which will produce no real world adoption?

What is the future of ICOs?
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September 29, 2017, 11:20:25 PM
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Hey guys,

I don't get what's holding us back. Every time I talk about crypto with a family member or someone at work their eyes glaze over.

I feel like I'm the weirdo talking about klingon mating rituals!

Which makes me wonder - why are we still on the fringe? What could we do to take blockchain technology and make it accessible for everyone?

Anyway, that's my rant for today...

What do you think?

It is, we're just still early adopters (even after nearly a decade).

When more mainstream companies accept cryptos as payment is when they'll really take off. Maybe you're pushing too hard, most people I talk about cryptos with come to me later and ask how to get started.
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Large companies are the main point for the development of crypto coins but do not expect if the Bank can accept Crypto as payment because the Bank and Crypto are the enemy.
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September 29, 2017, 11:53:41 PM
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Minority of people have interest on this kind of stuff that they'd rather spend their time over meaningless things like Facebook. So which is why I think no matter how much we advertise cryptos, it all boils down to the person's priority and interest (which many don't have right now)
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September 30, 2017, 12:19:45 AM
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Hey guys,

I don't get what's holding us back. Every time I talk about crypto with a family member or someone at work their eyes glaze over.

I feel like I'm the weirdo talking about klingon mating rituals!

Which makes me wonder - why are we still on the fringe? What could we do to take blockchain technology and make it accessible for everyone?

Anyway, that's my rant for today...

What do you think?

It was a long time before my wife started taking Crypto seriously.  It wasn't until I bought several thousand dollars worth of computer equipment from Newegg that she finally got it.  We will get there, but it will take time.
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September 30, 2017, 12:21:46 AM
Last edit: September 30, 2017, 01:27:32 AM by Hyperme.sh
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It wasn't until I bought several thousand dollars worth of computer equipment from Newegg that she finally got it.

You’re overextrapolating. What did she “got it”? And what does that have anything to do with the masses?

All that happened is presumably she saw that you made gains as a speculator and you spent your gains (because she is married to a cryptonerd so it was basically forced on her). That has nothing to do with any mass adoption phenomenon (other than possibly a Tulip speculation bubble in ICOs). That the BTC is spendable on Newegg is irrelevant. The mass adoption of crypto will not be driven by big ticket item purchases because there are no compelling advantages (and some disadvantages such as the lack of the ability to issue a refund against a scammy vendor), but rather by gamefication of invisible nanotransaction purchases.

My prior comment elaborates.
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September 30, 2017, 05:53:21 AM
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Hey guys,

I don't get what's holding us back. Every time I talk about crypto with a family member or someone at work their eyes glaze over.

I feel like I'm the weirdo talking about klingon mating rituals!

Which makes me wonder - why are we still on the fringe? What could we do to take blockchain technology and make it accessible for everyone?

Anyway, that's my rant for today...

What do you think?
It takes time for someone to get used to with new technologies. Give them some time. Next time they try to buy something online offer them bitcoins and show them how easy it is to things with bitcoin. Don't go into too much into details as they might end up losing interest.
And always try to keep it simple.

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September 30, 2017, 06:45:18 AM
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Crypto is 1) still hard to understand for the average user, and hard to explain a quick and succinct manner, 2) the tech isnt user friendly yet. We need a company to make it simple for users from all ages and cultures. People have no idea how bluetooth/wifi/credit cards work, but they understand it enough to be able to use it on their day to day lives - crypto hasnt reached that stage yet.

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September 30, 2017, 03:17:45 PM
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has crypto solved any problem that cannot otherwise be solved?

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September 30, 2017, 03:32:41 PM
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Well maybe because crypto is a very deep and kind of technical and not all people understands it but I think crypto is gaining popularity everyday its taking one step at a time maybe in a few years crypto will be mainstream just like the internet and all other innovative things.
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September 30, 2017, 04:00:39 PM
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Hey guys,

I don't get what's holding us back. Every time I talk about crypto with a family member or someone at work their eyes glaze over.

I feel like I'm the weirdo talking about klingon mating rituals!

Which makes me wonder - why are we still on the fringe? What could we do to take blockchain technology and make it accessible for everyone?

Anyway, that's my rant for today...

What do you think?
I thing crypto  will go  mainstream only after it will be convenient to buy with it in the  glossary store, without  knowing that you using  block chain technology, and without fear that  it can drop twice time in value in the next morning.

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September 30, 2017, 04:04:27 PM
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It seems to me the technology lay is still very blockchain to many people especially those who do not understand technology at all it will make them really do not understand, I'm also experiencing something like this
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September 30, 2017, 04:15:37 PM
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Well still too few people know about it. It is really surprising that a platform like this which worths billions is under advertised but i'm fine with it since this is a huge gate of money.

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September 30, 2017, 04:19:59 PM
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as regulation gives with the details as legals and mechanism the use of altcoin should helps more people to work with the online transaction to counts with micro and nano payment with the nominals.

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September 30, 2017, 04:26:34 PM
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Well maybe because crypto is a very deep and kind of technical and not all people understands it but I think crypto is gaining popularity everyday its taking one step at a time maybe in a few years crypto will be mainstream just like the internet and all other innovative things.
if this can be done we might see more progress and maybe some commercials will make more people to invest with this currency, right now we are
still seeing more negative feedback regarding to this system more big names are showing around and giving their own opinion and even its a bad
publicity its bringing more interested people to check what bitcoin/crypto are.
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September 30, 2017, 04:30:55 PM
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It is going mainstream. There are always conservative forces resisting a brand new technology.
People used to conventional fiat finds it difficult to understand.
And a population in the earth lives doing nothing but manipulating the fiat, and such people controls government and they are the one resisting the most.

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September 30, 2017, 04:39:45 PM
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Everything needs time. Here you are talking about a completely new form of currency and what makes currency, a currency is trust. Building people's trust in something is simply not easy. That is why so many people are still skeptical about cryptos. The underlying technology is tough to understand which also keep people at bay. Moreover, there is not much advertising effort. But with time that too will solve. We are stil in initial phass. Its not been even 10 years.
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September 30, 2017, 04:41:39 PM
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Like the old saying goes "you can't teach a old dog new tricks". This applies for crypto as well. A lot of people are just stuck in the past of using real cash and cc. However, as bigger organizations like google and apple push for apple pay and google pay, it brought people a bit closer to online payments. I guess we can assume that if these companies start to use crypto or any sort, the message will be broadcast to a wider audience, and more people will become interested in it. I guess once ICO's using crypto become more widespread, more people will be exposed to it and more people will begin to adapt and join the community. As a app developer, I think crypto can really benefit the app space in terms of payment systems. Some projects that I am currently following that in corporate in-app crypto are: OpenMoney, Kin.

I definitely agree with the premise that the more people can transact with crypto the more it will go mainstream. As an app developer who has been wanting to incorporate allow acceptance of crypto into our apps, Kin and OpenMoney are both interesting to me - in particular Open Money is solving a problem that's been an issue for us for years. I think overall we are headed in the right direction.


Interesting,  what is this problem Open Money is solving?  

Scaleability enough to tackle mainstream level loads?  

Ease of use,  simplicity and no technical knowledge required to get into,  mine and use?    

Simple and self explaining enough for a doofus to make transfers and deal with it without feeling they will screw up/loose money if they don't set a certain setting right they don't understand,  and isn't explained right where you set the setting?

Protection from loosing ALL their money essentially their entire bank account if the device their bank account wallet is on gets compromised in any way....
Said protection being handled under the hood and needing no technical knowledge other than having to remember a password?

Those are the main crypto problems I know of that need tackling,  any new crypto tech that aims on solving those issues and making Cryptocurrency more viable for mass adoption and use by the average joe moe and harry without them accidentally screwing themselves over too easily are what I'm interested in the most
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September 30, 2017, 05:29:25 PM
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Crypto is most times not easy to use and most coins are so volatile that people won't take the risk to get some coins. There are a couple of stabilized-price coins and in my opinion the new coin CORION could be one of the first mainstream cryptocurrencies...

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