Lucacrebbe (OP)
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October 01, 2017, 10:30:39 PM |
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Have you noticed that there are some valuable coins that keep on staying ''under the radar'' at ridicoulous prices?
That's impossible.... but in some cases I think the big players with big money manipulate the price of these coins to keep them as low as they can
There are some other coins very valuable which stay at the same price.... we can think about ETHereum... evryone know it was a big potential coin, but the last year in this period it was 13 $ and staied in this price for a lot, before TO EXPLODE
The boom for some coin is at the corner... I think that some coins that are valuable but keep on stay underpriced, are manypulted by whales
There is the trick of sell/buy wall that an experienced trader would known....basically the whales put a big order at buy (increasing the buy demand) and then delete their order, making the price fall, and keeping it ''stable''
SO my touhght is:: LOOK THE DAILY -WEEKLY ORDER BOOK AT THE EXANGES..... if YOU SEE BIG ORDERS WHICH SUDDENLY DISAPPEAR ON A valuable coin THIS is the signal that The whales are keeping the price low to accumulate, because they know there is HIGH CHANCEs that that coin will be very valuable in the future
This my personal teory, not applicable on all coins, because it works also as ''pump and dump'' with shitcoins...so not only for ''valuable coins''
What do you think about it?
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aceptamosbitcoin
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October 02, 2017, 12:29:54 AM |
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Yes, I was thinking the same. Because most of the coins could be easily manipulated with small-mid amount of money. Reentry I was trading on 2 ICOs and cannot other explanation of courses expept manipulation. The first is OPT where the price starts increasing when bounty hunters dropped over half of their coins?! And before that was to incredibly low. The second one is TFL which is one of the few projects with a real working product but the prices are 2-4 under the ICO.
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coastbank
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October 02, 2017, 07:33:43 AM |
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They are also manipulating prices with bots. Some bots basically behave after macd and rsi so you can't see all those sell orders coming all at one time. It makes you panic sell your coins and their buy orders were reserved there waiting to get your cheap coins.
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trickyriky
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October 02, 2017, 02:45:06 PM |
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I also remembered that period when ethereum was about 13$ at start of this year. I was shocked about it. So many ICO and price like this? And then it RISED UP!!!
And now actually I again thinking that ethereum will have again some explosion. Maybe till 1000$. Let's see. You can see SO MANY ICO on ethereum!
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MatrixMining
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October 02, 2017, 03:40:44 PM |
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You are probably right. Actually I see such behavior now with the Mysterium network token (MYST). The typical daily volume is about 15 BTC, but there are 5-15 BTC walls appearing and disappearing all the time. Also when the price moves away from some range, sometime there is sudden 50-100 BTC spike in the trading volume. It all looks suspicious, exactly like a whale filling their pockets at low prices.
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Lucacrebbe (OP)
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October 02, 2017, 03:53:15 PM |
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You are probably right. Actually I see such behavior now with the Mysterium network token (MYST). The typical daily volume is about 15 BTC, but there are 5-15 BTC walls appearing and disappearing all the time. Also when the price moves away from some range, sometime there is sudden 50-100 BTC spike in the trading volume. It all looks suspicious, exactly like a whale filling their pockets at low prices.
On which exange? Does it happen more or less on a dayily basis? If yes, probably are trying to stabylizing the price for a while , accumulating cheap before a big pump...
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MatrixMining
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October 02, 2017, 04:08:26 PM |
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You are probably right. Actually I see such behavior now with the Mysterium network token (MYST). The typical daily volume is about 15 BTC, but there are 5-15 BTC walls appearing and disappearing all the time. Also when the price moves away from some range, sometime there is sudden 50-100 BTC spike in the trading volume. It all looks suspicious, exactly like a whale filling their pockets at low prices.
On which exange? Does it happen more or less on a dayily basis? If yes, probably are trying to stabylizing the price for a while , accumulating cheap before a big pump... Yes, it is on a daily basis, on the Bittrex exchange. I also think that they are trying to accumulate at cheap prices. Also what is in favor of this scenario is the fact that the price was declining for some weeks, then it suddenly stabilized and this weird behavior appeared.
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go4crypto
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October 02, 2017, 04:13:55 PM |
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ETH was below $13 at beginning of the year but pretty much crypto was dirt cheap at that time. Most of the cryptos were trading for mere pennies. Agree that whales do use tricks to accumulate cheap and dump at the highs.
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Lucacrebbe (OP)
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October 02, 2017, 04:21:41 PM Last edit: October 02, 2017, 04:32:22 PM by Lucacrebbe |
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ETH was below $13 at beginning of the year but pretty much crypto was dirt cheap at that time. Most of the cryptos were trading for mere pennies. Agree that whales do use tricks to accumulate cheap and dump at the highs.
ETH was a promising coin. I remmeber I was on a totally different web site related to tecnology and I asked a member ''what do you think about investment'' He said me: ''invest in ETH''...but I didn't because I was knew about trading I was new to cripto trading, but I remember his words ... it was september of the last year Basically everyone knew Eth would be exploded, it was only matter of time..... that's my idea, I don't know if there was some others Eth competitors, anyway I have my idea Eth was the best candidate and from that it was only a matter of time before the boom that we all know. All the time at 13, at 20 $ was only accumulating time... accumulating time Now there are so many coins and the market is more saturated compared to the last year.... but my advice is: if you think you have found a ''gem'' with a real case of use, don't dump it just because you see the price is stable for months. Believe in the project, if the dev team is good
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Lucacrebbe (OP)
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October 02, 2017, 04:33:50 PM |
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Yes, it is on a daily basis, on the Bittrex exchange. I also think that they are trying to accumulate at cheap prices. Also what is in favor of this scenario is the fact that the price was declining for some weeks, then it suddenly stabilized and this weird behavior appeared.
I like the idea of a decentralized VPN, but don't you think that Tor already solves this problem?
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MatrixMining
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October 02, 2017, 04:44:13 PM |
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Yes, it is on a daily basis, on the Bittrex exchange. I also think that they are trying to accumulate at cheap prices. Also what is in favor of this scenario is the fact that the price was declining for some weeks, then it suddenly stabilized and this weird behavior appeared.
I like the idea of a decentralized VPN, but don't you think that Tor already solves this problem? Security wise probably yes, but it's very slow because the nodes are not paid for providing the service. In Myst the nodes will be paid for providing their bandwidth, so it should be much faster and with many more nodes.
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Lucacrebbe (OP)
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October 02, 2017, 04:56:06 PM |
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Security wise probably yes, but it's very slow because the nodes are not paid for providing the service. In Myst the nodes will be paid for providing their bandwidth, so it should be much faster and with many more nodes.
I do not think tor is more ''secure'' compared to a decentralized vpn, maybe i am wrong
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rezurect
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October 02, 2017, 05:14:30 PM |
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I also remembered that period when ethereum was about 13$ at start of this year. I was shocked about it. So many ICO and price like this? And then it RISED UP!!!
And now actually I again thinking that ethereum will have again some explosion. Maybe till 1000$. Let's see. You can see SO MANY ICO on ethereum!
All the ico's should in terms mean a lot of dumping eth to gather fiat or btc for these ico companies.
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McWorse
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October 02, 2017, 05:40:55 PM |
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In my opinion the rise of ETH was a sign of the first step in the direction of mass adoption. I started my way into the cryptomarket because of ETH. I heard from it in march. I knew at this time, what BTC is. But I didn't knew about all these alts. By chance I read an article about ETH. And I have to tell, that I was not really interested in these kind of technology, it was outside my world - until I heard from ETH. I remembered the rise of BTC, saw my chance and stepped in immediately. All in all: A noob like my got to know and grabbed his chance. And I think, there are thousands upon thousands like me out there, because it was the time for it - and the long bullish run begun.
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Lucacrebbe (OP)
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October 02, 2017, 05:49:12 PM |
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I think the new Eths of nowdays are the decentralized exange. They will boom, but who knows which one... 0x, bitshares, waves .. there are so many
IN my opinion waves is not a real decentralized exange because on the DEX you can exange only a few coins and custom tokens (which none cares about it) Anyway I thin decentralized exange are the new boom
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rayk
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October 02, 2017, 06:09:07 PM |
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If few whale hold huge proportion of coins, it is very easy for them to speculate coins. Personal contribution limits in ICO is to get rid of such whales. It is not good for coins only good for whales.
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suvo05
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October 02, 2017, 06:09:43 PM |
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Have you noticed that there are some valuable coins that keep on staying ''under the radar'' at ridicoulous prices?
That's impossible.... but in some cases I think the big players with big money manipulate the price of these coins to keep them as low as they can
There are some other coins very valuable which stay at the same price.... we can think about ETHereum... evryone know it was a big potential coin, but the last year in this period it was 13 $ and staied in this price for a lot, before TO EXPLODE
The boom for some coin is at the corner... I think that some coins that are valuable but keep on stay underpriced, are manypulted by whales
There is the trick of sell/buy wall that an experienced trader would known....basically the whales put a big order at buy (increasing the buy demand) and then delete their order, making the price fall, and keeping it ''stable''
SO my touhght is:: LOOK THE DAILY -WEEKLY ORDER BOOK AT THE EXANGES..... if YOU SEE BIG ORDERS WHICH SUDDENLY DISAPPEAR ON A valuable coin THIS is the signal that The whales are keeping the price low to accumulate, because they know there is HIGH CHANCEs that that coin will be very valuable in the future
This my personal teory, not applicable on all coins, because it works also as ''pump and dump'' with shitcoins...so not only for ''valuable coins''
What do you think about it?
yes, I agree with you. When lot of normal traders thought that the coin will not increase any more and sell the coin, then the whales start buying it and the coin value goes up. It have happened several time before. Maybe some thing similar is going to happen with the dogecoin also. People have almost no faith in it and it keep deeping down maybe time for the big whales .
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cryptoed
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October 02, 2017, 06:10:24 PM |
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almost all markets are manipulated by whales
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thompshma
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October 02, 2017, 06:20:42 PM |
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I was watching it happen yesterday with Ardor There was a 100btc wall that stopped the upwards trend and send everything down %10
They have been doing it with LBRY for months now.
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taibas
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October 02, 2017, 06:28:01 PM |
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The danger that the whales have, when the price is on their way to the moon, they have only to put the graph down
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