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October 08, 2017, 09:04:56 PM |
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What does the name come from?
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October 09, 2017, 04:44:39 AM |
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I think it was a no brainer that someone goes for decentralized file sharing, but there is likely other projects trying to do this to or not? Apart from that, your success over time probably depends a lot on Ethereum's success over time in terms of scaling correct?
There are currently no other projects trying to do this right now, we are unique ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . In terms of scaling, we're not too concerned that the Ethereum devs will take care of it. Token transactions can be completed very quickly even right now with all the projects out there.
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October 09, 2017, 04:46:57 AM |
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Will you modify the BitTorrent protocol in order to make this work? Or you'll be starting with a cryptocurrency base?
It is essentially a modified BitTorrent protocol. You'll be able to take a file (.mp3, .mp4, .pdf, .dmg, etc) and turn it into an Upfiring torrent that can only be used within the app itself. This ensures that BitTorrent users can't just download the file for free outside the app, and that seeders are appropriately compensated.
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October 09, 2017, 04:55:19 AM |
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What does the name come from?
I've been trying to solve this puzzle without success. Consider helping. We originally decided on the name "Upfiling" since the app deals with file-sharing, but changed it at the last minute. We eventually unanimously agreed that we liked the ring of "Upfiring" better even though its less direct, and so we just went with it.
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October 09, 2017, 05:47:24 AM |
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Can you please post a comparison between this and Decent? I prefer your project, but I want to see your take as well.
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October 09, 2017, 06:40:15 AM |
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So does it recruit the blockchain's data decompression/compression processes in order to exchange and distribute data resiliently and quickly?
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October 09, 2017, 09:44:29 AM |
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What if the ISP simply bans IPs of seeders? I listened to this podcast episode recently that explained how a decentralized exchange would need a decentralized internet first. Is the same case true for this one?
Is this really an issue? Seems /r/conspiracy to me. It probably isn't for most people. What I wrote above is the larger issues. I'm not quick to say this because I don't like fud but this really looks like a scam. I hope that I'm wrong and if I am I will probably use the platform. I don't know... seems fine to me... let's see what they answer to some of the questions from this thread. You in particular had some really good ones. IF they answer. It looks like they will just ignore critical questions. It doesn't make sense to take a picture of a barchart put on some moving averages and then call that tokens earned and pretend like it's a picture from a developed platform, but that's what they have done in the so called sneak preview. That's shady as fuck. Makes me wonder if they have even developed anything. Another reason to stay away from this ICO is that bittorrent works. No reason to fix something that isn't broken.
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October 10, 2017, 02:59:24 AM |
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What if the ISP simply bans IPs of seeders? I listened to this podcast episode recently that explained how a decentralized exchange would need a decentralized internet first. Is the same case true for this one?
Is this really an issue? Seems /r/conspiracy to me. It probably isn't for most people. What I wrote above is the larger issues. I'm not quick to say this because I don't like fud but this really looks like a scam. I hope that I'm wrong and if I am I will probably use the platform. I don't know... seems fine to me... let's see what they answer to some of the questions from this thread. You in particular had some really good ones. IF they answer. It looks like they will just ignore critical questions. It doesn't make sense to take a picture of a barchart put on some moving averages and then call that tokens earned and pretend like it's a picture from a developed platform, but that's what they have done in the so called sneak preview. That's shady as fuck. Makes me wonder if they have even developed anything. Another reason to stay away from this ICO is that bittorrent works. No reason to fix something that isn't broken. The UI/UX portion of the app is still in a primitive stage. We're developing the app logic, Solidity contracts, and P2P functionality before we really focus on making the UI look nice. Yes, the barchart image is just a placeholder for now - the full token earnings page is actually much more detailed than that with a lot more information. On the bittorrent matter - the seeding process should be incentivized. Finding seeders on platforms like bittorrent or SoulSeekQT is pretty difficult if the torrent is not massively popular, because people don't have any reason to seed files if they get nothing in return. Upfiring is changing that. We expect that this will draw users to seed files on our platform over platforms, resulting in more file availability, more peers and faster download speeds.
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October 10, 2017, 03:02:03 AM |
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Can you please post a comparison between this and Decent? I prefer your project, but I want to see your take as well.
Decent is a good project, but there are a few key differences: Upfiring strictly focuses on file-sharing. The app allows files to move freely between 2 or more peers - and the solidity smart contracts, which manage the token, distribute UFR tokens when appropriate. Users of our platform earn tokens when others download their files. DECENT is a protocol for applications and publishing of content. Decent itself doesn't do anything as an application - it simply allows others to build apps on top of it. It functions similarly to an Ethereum/Solidity development framework. It is a solid project in and of itself, but definitely different than Upfiring.
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October 10, 2017, 08:21:15 AM |
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On the bittorrent matter - the seeding process should be incentivized. Finding seeders on platforms like bittorrent or SoulSeekQT is pretty difficult if the torrent is not massively popular, because people don't have any reason to seed files if they get nothing in return. Upfiring is changing that. We expect that this will draw users to seed files on our platform over platforms, resulting in more file availability, more peers and faster download speeds.
Anyone who has used torrents could agree to this.
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October 10, 2017, 08:57:04 AM |
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Do people decide which files they are seeding or will it be random so that I for example am seeding some file without knowing what kind of content it is? Or would I only be seeding files that I have downloaded or decided to share with the network?
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October 10, 2017, 01:49:25 PM |
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What is your view around piracy and copyright infringement? Considering there is money involved, I see potential risk unless the system has a way to tackle it.
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October 10, 2017, 05:16:24 PM |
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How confident are you that you can follow that roadmap?
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October 11, 2017, 02:26:21 AM |
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Very confident. We are on track and fully expect to have the alpha/beta versions of the app released this year into the new year, with the official release planned for early-mid next year.
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October 11, 2017, 02:29:34 AM |
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What is your view around piracy and copyright infringement? Considering there is money involved, I see potential risk unless the system has a way to tackle it.
We don't support it but we are only the client/protocol - therefore, we don't control what people will share. Any 2 peers can share any files and exchange UFR via the built-in smart contracts. There will be ways for the community and UFR holders to regulate some of the content in case any inappropriate or copyrighted material is seeded. Some of the details of how this will work can be found in the Whitepaper.
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October 11, 2017, 02:32:21 AM |
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Do people decide which files they are seeding or will it be random so that I for example am seeding some file without knowing what kind of content it is? Or would I only be seeding files that I have downloaded or decided to share with the network?
The user chooses exactly which files they want to seed, and can change this at any time. You can download a file and seed it on the network immediately to get a portion of the UFR when that file is downloaded, or upload your own unique files.
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October 11, 2017, 04:28:13 AM |
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On the bittorrent matter - the seeding process should be incentivized. Finding seeders on platforms like bittorrent or SoulSeekQT is pretty difficult if the torrent is not massively popular, because people don't have any reason to seed files if they get nothing in return. Upfiring is changing that. We expect that this will draw users to seed files on our platform over platforms, resulting in more file availability, more peers and faster download speeds.
Anyone who has used torrents could agree to this. Yes, we think it will naturally draw users to use our app over time vs. the big players like uTorrent.
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October 11, 2017, 07:47:26 AM |
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You've definitely picked up in speed at answering question. Good community management.
Please try stealing a developer from qBittorrent or uTorrent because they have such amazing interfaces.
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October 11, 2017, 09:45:16 AM |
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I'd actually say the interface of those is too complicated for the average user. I like it more as it is in their "How will Upfiring work?" screenshot.
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October 11, 2017, 04:09:27 PM |
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Very confident. We are on track and fully expect to have the alpha/beta versions of the app released this year into the new year, with the official release planned for early-mid next year.
That sounds very promising. File sharing is still woefully behind the times in my opinion. I hope to see some innovation with technology like you're attempting to harness.
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