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October 02, 2017, 07:53:08 PM
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Mr. Satoshi is really a genius in hidding.
Still today no one could find his identity, nor even the national agencies could make it.

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Besides Tor and PGP, what technologies else did Satoshi use to protect his anonymity?
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October 02, 2017, 08:49:43 PM
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"Satoshi" hasn't left any trail that would lead others to him/her or at least tried his/her best to do so. As to what technologies he used the short answer would be, he didn't. In today's society it is easy to find someone using their "technological" (social media, bank accounts, etc.) trail, so the only technology that he used would be his head.
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October 02, 2017, 10:35:01 PM
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Mr. Satoshi is really a genius in hidding.
Still today no one could find his identity, nor even the national agencies could make it.

Question:
Besides Tor and PGP, what technologies else did Satoshi use to protect his anonymity?

Addresses as hashes of public keys  Huh ...  Cool

Satoshi’s Genius: Unexpected Ways in which Bitcoin Dodged Some Cryptographic Bullets
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshis-genius-unexpected-ways-in-which-bitcoin-dodged-some-cryptographic-bullet-1382996984/


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October 02, 2017, 11:21:18 PM
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Thats not really true,Satoshi changed a piece of code to limit the block size to 1MB without anyone except the very few noticing the change.He was a very secretive person in all aspects of life.A great C++ Dev but actually knew little about cryptography
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October 02, 2017, 11:35:54 PM
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Thats not really true,Satoshi changed a piece of code to limit the block size to 1MB without anyone except the very few noticing the change.He was a very secretive person in all aspects of life.A great C++ Dev but actually knew little about cryptography

I can't read lot of C++ code ... pure C makes more sense to me

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October 02, 2017, 11:45:10 PM
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Addresses as hashes of public keys  Huh ...  Cool

Satoshi’s Genius: Unexpected Ways in which Bitcoin Dodged Some Cryptographic Bullets
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshis-genius-unexpected-ways-in-which-bitcoin-dodged-some-cryptographic-bullet-1382996984/

That article is largely incomprehensible to a simpleton like me, but it's still absolutely fascinating to think of the sheer amount of thought that went into Bitcoin before it was ready to go out into the world.

I would love to have heard a little from Satoshi about how long it took, how many dead ends there were and how much he discovered and learnt during the process.
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October 02, 2017, 11:59:13 PM
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Thats not really true,Satoshi changed a piece of code to limit the block size to 1MB without anyone except the very few noticing the change.He was a very secretive person in all aspects of life.A great C++ Dev but actually knew little about cryptography
You really think that Satoshi knew really little about cryptography and yet he came up with the ingenious idea about bitcoin which uses cryptography in its core and still you feel like he was a novice in the field.  Tongue  I accept the fact that he was not good at front end,but his skills over all is outstanding and his vision is next to none,he may have hid is identity through VPN tunneling and used anonymous mail servers.
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October 03, 2017, 12:04:20 AM
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Thats not really true,Satoshi changed a piece of code to limit the block size to 1MB without anyone except the very few noticing the change.He was a very secretive person in all aspects of life.A great C++ Dev but actually knew little about cryptography
You really think that Satoshi knew really little about cryptography and yet he came up with the ingenious idea about bitcoin which uses cryptography in its core and still you feel like he was a novice in the field.  Tongue  

I think cryptology like Carl Sagan TV series "Cosmos" ...  a personal voyage ... so I will borrow a quote from Niels Ferguson, Bruce Schneier book ...

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Applied Cryptography, which was first published ten years
ago. But while Applied Cryptography gives a broad overview of cryptography
and the myriad possibilities cryptography can offer, this book is narrow and
focused. We don't give you dozens of choices; we give you one option and
tell you how to implement it correctly.

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October 03, 2017, 06:11:21 AM
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The genius behind Satoshi's concealment of his identity does not reside with the use of technology, but rather the social tactics he/she/they used to confuse people. Satoshi posted at random time zones on the forums or platforms he used, so people could not determine in which time zone he/she/they lived in.

He also used anonymous mailing lists and secure personal emails in the Cypherpunk community to hide his identity : https://www.coindesk.com/the-rise-of-the-cypherpunks/ < Cypherpunks believe that privacy is a fundamental human right, including privacy from governments. >

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October 03, 2017, 01:02:05 PM
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With the loss of Mr. Satoshi identity, certainly better and accelerate the development of bitcoin.
if not, then bitcoin development will experience many significant obstacles and Pak Satoshi will be considered the enemy of the country for trying to revolutionize the current currency.

My answer: other than Tor and PGP Mr. Satoshi uses Gnutella to protect his anonymity.
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October 03, 2017, 07:05:44 PM
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Mr. Satoshi is really a genius in hidding.
Still today no one could find his identity, nor even the national agencies could make it.

Question:
Besides Tor and PGP, what technologies else did Satoshi use to protect his anonymity?

I don't know where you got he info that national agencies don't know who he is and that they tried to figure it out in the first place.
Bitcoin wasn't as popular back then, so he kind of kept a low profile and as I understand he went away just when things got him a bit of high profile.
It also isn't easy to retrospectively try to find out someone's identity, if they didn't monitor the Internet back then, then there would be little they could do now.

I somehow doubt that he used Tor and PGP has nothing really to do with anonymity, but with security.
He might have used some public Wifi and/or some proxies, I doubt he went very high tech.
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October 03, 2017, 07:12:52 PM
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The guy/girl(even tho i strongly doubt it Cheesy) was able to revolutionize the way we think of money...i dont think it would be so hard for him to hide his trail. He also had some time to do that because nobody took bitcoin very serious at the beggining.
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October 03, 2017, 10:09:15 PM
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Mr. Satoshi is really a genius in hidding.
Still today no one could find his identity, nor even the national agencies could make it.

Question:
Besides Tor and PGP, what technologies else did Satoshi use to protect his anonymity?

Keeping privacy on the internet is a mixed bag.  On one hand, it can be easy to blend in.  But someone that is determined can very likely ID a significant percentage of people.

I'm betting that some people know his or her true identity.  People that were around at the time.

I think I read that people have studied Satoshi's writings in comparison to known people that were in the Cypherpunk community and potentially could build a circumstantial case to identify the person.  Personally, I consider that an invasion of privacy.  If someone chooses to remain anonymous, I respect that choice.

I do sincerely hope that he or she has been able to enjoy some measure of success from Bitcoin.

And who knows, maybe one day he or she will reveal themselves to the world.  Legitimately (I believe there have been impostors).  That's entirely up to them.

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October 03, 2017, 11:52:22 PM
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I have read that analysis of their writing using artificial intelligence has show he could actually be two persons and not one. To hide his identity using a public VPN, proxy or TOR is enough for the majority of cases, there is a lot of public openVPN gateways out there with high bandwidth and you can look like coming from anywhere in the world.

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October 04, 2017, 02:38:35 AM
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The genius behind Satoshi's concealment of his identity does not reside with the use of technology, but rather the social tactics he/she/they used to confuse people. Satoshi posted at random time zones on the forums or platforms he used, so people could not determine in which time zone he/she/they lived in.

Really? I read something about a Swiss coder who made a graph out of Satoshi's posts and was reasonably able to assume the time he was asleep based on the data. It was even consistent on weekends. I think they concluded that he lived somewhere EST. I know it's all conjecture, but it's still pretty convincing.

Still it's true that he was incredibly meticulous. Maybe he just wants to spend his newfound wealth in peace. He deserves at least that.

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October 04, 2017, 03:31:29 AM
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I think no one really knows how Satoshi hid his identity and if what kind of technology he used because if there is someone who knew it, we will know who Satoshi really is. For me, there are still computer geniuses out there that are trying to figure it out. They are still working and eager to know about it. Maybe in due time they will find a clue.
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October 04, 2017, 03:43:12 AM
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Mr. Satoshi is really a genius in hidding.
Still today no one could find his identity, nor even the national agencies could make it.

Question:
Besides Tor and PGP, what technologies else did Satoshi use to protect his anonymity?
Nick Szabo showed himself to be Satoshi Nakamoto when he back-dated the notorious blog post about digital currencies after Bitcoin was released and then disappeared for the next 2 years only to reappear shortly after Satoshi vanished.
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October 04, 2017, 03:50:05 AM
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There is no doubt that satoshi is very talented guy because the way he have developed bitcoin is really awesome. Talking about his ability to hide his identity, He haven't made any announcement after 2010 because by that time bitcoin have already got popularity and he doesn't want to get caught from governments. There are lots of tools to improve your personal privacy but the most crucial one is to not expose yourself with your own small mistakes like silkroad owner.
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October 04, 2017, 04:21:06 AM
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I think no one really knows how Satoshi hid his identity and if what kind of technology he used because if there is someone who knew it, we will know who Satoshi really is. For me, there are still computer geniuses out there that are trying to figure it out. They are still working and eager to know about it. Maybe in due time they will find a clue.
Satoshi made btc as anonymous currency that can be used by anyone without being known. And satoshi did a great job, as well as in hiding his self.
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October 04, 2017, 04:31:13 AM
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The genius behind Satoshi's concealment of his identity does not reside with the use of technology, but rather the social tactics he/she/they used to confuse people. Satoshi posted at random time zones on the forums or platforms he used, so people could not determine in which time zone he/she/they lived in.

He also used anonymous mailing lists and secure personal emails in the Cypherpunk community to hide his identity : https://www.coindesk.com/the-rise-of-the-cypherpunks/ < Cypherpunks believe that privacy is a fundamental human right, including privacy from governments. >

How creative of him. Creative in the sense that he managed to foresee simple things that may lead to a clue about his identity. I can say that he is wise enough to put the identity in dormant mode. I also believed that "privacy" is important including the government.
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