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June 15, 2013, 05:49:47 AM
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There is nothing in this thread about board design.
...if and when BFL starts releasing documentation.
I read something about "2 weeks" for Docs and samples to Devs on another thread About BFL chips. 100% escrow or something. Who knows, but it'll be hard to convince people until they "put up"; if and then, the race will be on for Avalon 2.0
I haven't heard any details about a second generation Avalon chip yet. That's not to say it isn't in the pipe, but I would love a link to some technical details if you have them. The Avalon chip sales were extremely successful even before any information was released; some community members released preliminary layouts even before knowing the pinout of the chips. While BFL hasn't exactly been prompt compared to their original deadline for mining devices, the chips are proven at this point and there shouldn't be any reason why the issues that BFL has ramping up after redesigning the Single PCB and hardware will significantly affect chip timelines.

I won't say I'm not worried about the 100 day timeline slipping a little, but then I'm worried about Avalon being able to deliver chips to the April 16th orders within the next week and a half to meet their 10 week deadline. I would say that people who buy BFL chips have more to worry about from Bitfury, KnC and Avalon V1 than Avalon V2 at this point.
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June 15, 2013, 07:09:31 AM
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Is there a datasheet on this BFL chip out already?
A pinout and a chip package would be enough at
this point.

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June 15, 2013, 09:21:11 AM
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i wll follow this Thread,
i would also buy 10- 50 Chips,  50  Chips for 3750$ by Wire
nice would be if we could share the first Payment 2x 1875$ to proceed faster,
but this depends on the Plans from BFL when and to whom they show it ?


In the Moment we got someone who can produce the PCB's fast, i'm so in (but then its probably too late)






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June 15, 2013, 03:43:57 PM
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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3272-customer-appreciation-chip-credit-program.html

Anyone who has a pre-order with BFL gets a discount on chips, down from $75/chip to $50/chip. Might be worth grouping a bunch of discount codes and buying a batch!

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June 15, 2013, 04:26:28 PM
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Finally, the news is released.

The chip credit program will be a huge boon for chip sales. The BFL chips are now $12.5/(GH/s) for people that have chip credits, which is by far the best price available.

Codes are transferable, so they should be fine to use in the group buy once they are aggregated together. If you do not have chip credits but are still interested, I am looking to acquire codes. Obviously the price of the chips if you don't have codes will end up being somewhere between $50 and $75. Where on that scale it ends up will depend on how easy codes are to come by.
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June 15, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3272-customer-appreciation-chip-credit-program.html

Anyone who has a pre-order with BFL gets a discount on chips, down from $75/chip to $50/chip. Might be worth grouping a bunch of discount codes and buying a batch!

The wording of inaba's OP at bfl doesn't suggest that the codes can be grouped:

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you will receive a $25 credit per chip


I suspect there are a lot of people who will want to cash in their chip credits, but few who will want to pay the $50 cost. Anyway, I am interested in providing $1200 in credits to anyone that can return 8 chips mounted on a PCB that will mine.
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June 15, 2013, 04:40:57 PM
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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3272-customer-appreciation-chip-credit-program.html

Anyone who has a pre-order with BFL gets a discount on chips, down from $75/chip to $50/chip. Might be worth grouping a bunch of discount codes and buying a batch!

The wording of inaba's OP at bfl doesn't suggest that the codes can be grouped:

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you will receive a $25 credit per chip

His wording doesn't exclude it at all, and while it's not explicitly stated it wouldn't make sense to make the codes transferable if you can't use someone else's codes along with yours.
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Terms: While we do not have the facilities or the ability to facilitate chip transfers directly, the chip credit codes are transferable from one person to another and we do not limit the resale or transfer of the chip credit codes. The customer is responsible for doing their due diligence when buying, selling or trading the codes, so please be sure to only trade with trusted, verified individuals.
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June 15, 2013, 05:52:25 PM
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interested
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June 15, 2013, 07:01:59 PM
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June 15, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
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i wll follow this Thread,
i would also buy 10- 50 Chips,  50  Chips for 3750$ by Wire
nice would be if we could share the first Payment 2x 1875$ to proceed faster,
but this depends on the Plans from BFL when and to whom they show it ?


In the Moment we got someone who can produce the PCB's fast, i'm so in (but then its probably too late)



Maybe I could help, did the CAD of S-HASH within a week.
It's the 16 Avalon board we are working on posted earlier:

http://imgur.com/s7vQDzi

Need the pinout + package style first then. Spec
and samples can follow later.

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June 15, 2013, 11:31:50 PM
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Hey Josh just released the chip spec sheet on the original post. You'll need an account there to download it.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3014-butterfly-labs-announces-bulk-chip-sales.html



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June 15, 2013, 11:39:34 PM
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BFL BitForce SC Firmware source code Thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235312.0;topicseen
 


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June 15, 2013, 11:47:23 PM
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I've got some chip credits to put toward a group buy and am interested ~32 chips. Is this the only BFL chip group buy thread at the moment?
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June 15, 2013, 11:47:55 PM
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Excellent news. Time to get to work.
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June 16, 2013, 12:00:33 AM
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I have 64 chip credits, and am interested in this group buy (as well as any project to build rack-mount ASIC blades).
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June 16, 2013, 12:15:42 AM
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how will the credit program be incorporated into this group buy?
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June 16, 2013, 12:49:25 AM
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I've got some chip credits to put toward a group buy and am interested ~32 chips. Is this the only BFL chip group buy thread at the moment?
Well, there's this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223571.0 , where the OP was trying to hold BFL's feet to the fire with regard to delivery and terms.  Seems he was making some progress, too, but now, with ones accepting the original 50% pre-buy maybe but probably not escrow terms, BFL has no reason to accept those more customer-safe terms.

That's okay, IMHO, because there are enough horses coming onto the track that nobody has to pick one they don't think is the one that's going to win.  
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June 16, 2013, 03:03:18 AM
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I have 34 chips credits and I'm interested in this group buy. How would be the credit transfer?
There is an estimate price for the production boards?

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June 16, 2013, 03:40:43 AM
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Major changes to the OP in light of the new information from BFL. I am now officially opening this group buy to the public and will begin taking orders.
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June 16, 2013, 04:58:01 AM
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What will the cost be for PCB assembly?
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