Why the anti government

[Dirkson]

"Anti government" probably isn't a fair description. "Anti big government" may be more accurate a term.

I think most recognize citizens of a nation don't need to pay 40% to 50% real tax rates to fund schools, roads, police & other socialist programs. If state programs were run efficiently the cost should be far lower. On a subconscious level people recognize the system is broken somewhere, even if they aren't aware of details relating to specifics.

In the 1600's the working class enjoyed 189 holidays or days off per year. Today that number has been reduced nearer to 104 on average. It probably doesn't take a genius to realize the hours of the average work day is increasing, wages are decreasing while rent, taxes and other liabilities are going up. In the 1950s many could afford a new home, new car & other luxuries with only 1 person in a household working full time. Today to afford the same luxuries typically both parents must work full time. The dream of being a home owner, putting ones kids through college, being able to afford healthcare. All of these things are becoming increasingly difficult to achieve.

Then there are the long list of broken promises politicians have made over the last few decades. The inability on the part of the state to prevent disasters like the economic collapse of 2008, which many economists predicted 2-3 years in advance. The inability to fix basic issues relating to job markets, outsourcing of jobs, taxes, deficit, debt, streamlining of operations, fixing of healthcare, etc.

Decentralization also is not "anti government". Its moreso dividing power and influence in such a way as to make it difficult for systems to become centralized and exploited.

You have a great brain. Really, we have already tired from our government, politics, tax rates... As I understood, you live in US — and it isn't as worse as in Europe. Look at Russia, its neighbour countries — their life disgusting. Double-digit percent for house load, cars load, people haven't got enough monet, taxes always increase under the motto "your future will be better than your parents have, just wait some years". Politicans always lie to electorat, the last believe in that bullshit and nothing happens.

Sorry, I lied to you. Our life become a shit, we must learn English, work hard, earn money, and can't but even a flat, that costs less than $ 100,000... Free medicine is too expencive, free education is too expencive, it is disgustingly.

[Shenzou]

"Anti government" probably isn't a fair description. "Anti big government" may be more accurate a term.

I think most recognize citizens of a nation don't need to pay 40% to 50% real tax rates to fund schools, roads, police & other socialist programs. If state programs were run efficiently the cost should be far lower. On a subconscious level people recognize the system is broken somewhere, even if they aren't aware of details relating to specifics.

In the 1600's the working class enjoyed 189 holidays or days off per year. Today that number has been reduced nearer to 104 on average. It probably doesn't take a genius to realize the hours of the average work day is increasing, wages are decreasing while rent, taxes and other liabilities are going up. In the 1950s many could afford a new home, new car & other luxuries with only 1 person in a household working full time. Today to afford the same luxuries typically both parents must work full time. The dream of being a home owner, putting ones kids through college, being able to afford healthcare. All of these things are becoming increasingly difficult to achieve.

Then there are the long list of broken promises politicians have made over the last few decades. The inability on the part of the state to prevent disasters like the economic collapse of 2008, which many economists predicted 2-3 years in advance. The inability to fix basic issues relating to job markets, outsourcing of jobs, taxes, deficit, debt, streamlining of operations, fixing of healthcare, etc.

Decentralization also is not "anti government". Its moreso dividing power and influence in such a way as to make it difficult for systems to become centralized and exploited.

You have a great brain. Really, we have already tired from our government, politics, tax rates... As I understood, you live in US — and it isn't as worse as in Europe. Look at Russia, its neighbour countries — their life disgusting. Double-digit percent for house load, cars load, people haven't got enough monet, taxes always increase under the motto "your future will be better than your parents have, just wait some years". Politicans always lie to electorat, the last believe in that bullshit and nothing happens.

Sorry, I lied to you. Our life become a shit, we must learn English, work hard, earn money, and can't but even a flat, that costs less than $ 100,000... Free medicine is too expencive, free education is too expencive, it is disgustingly.

I understand your hatred for the goverments and i truly supported because i live in a country where life is really shit, i mean if you compare a worker from a 3rd world and a worker from the us or europe that is doing the same job, the 3rd world worker gets paid way to less than the other one, all of this is because of the goverlents, because they controll our lives and force us to do things we do, goverments were made to be a pawn in the people's hands not the other way around, in this world 90% of the world's goverments are courrapted because anyone who enters it even if he has good intention gets blined by the greed and the power and this leads to an unstable level of power between the countries, what makes the europe or the us different from the other countries, we all have nearly the same rsoureces some have more but they are still behiend and still have bad econnomy amm because of the corupption that is the goverment, and for that reson we hate them, and we thrive for a way out of thier controll and for this we use bitcoin in order to improve our lives that are bounded to this reched world that is courrapted by goverments and politcis, a world where everyone is blineded by their greed and love for power and money.

[Aikidoka]

It becomes quite annoying when the government gets involved in everything. Let people choose what to deal with without its intervention. The thing is if the government gets involved, it will get its share and will put some troublesome regulations. That is why the government should not intervene.

Added to that statement, our government is not providing us with job opportunities. People are sick of being unemployed. Therefore, bitcoin is a life-saver. If it gets accepted by the government, then people will stop complaining about being unemployed.

[Basmic]

I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government. 

True. I was reading in some other topic too. People have built mentality that government is against Bitcoin because it is good for people.
They aren't aware of the fact that Bitcoin is serious threat to growing economy of the nations if not regulated wisely. There are tons of wrong doing happening in Bitcoin and can widened if Bitcoin isn't regulated soon in every nation. One of which is ICO. I do consider ICO to be the biggest threat to Bitcoin market, both legally as well as on the basis of survival. I am in favour that Bitcoin market must be regulated.

What does the ICO to bitcoins? You mix all in one plate. I am also opposed to the government with his dirty paws interfered in bitcoin. In your post you deliberately consider bitcoin as a threat to the economy. You ever hear the word competition? Lol. If bitcoin can create the conditions in order to be recognized by people around the world. Let the government do their job and will create better conditions for people. Maybe then bitcoin would not be so popular. I do not understand those people who willingly want to deprive themselves of freedom.

[rjbtc2017]

Do not generalize it , Some Government acknowledges Bitcoin because they see it as a potential medium to create opportunities to their country including foreign investors, and Some Government see Bitcoin not harmful if regulated well .

Some countries may disagree with Bitcoin it is because they didn't studied it well, some of them see Bitcoin as a threath to their monetarynpolicies and discourages their controlling policies.

We cannot help but to accept that Bitcoin will be regulated by the Goverment, spexially when Bitcoin is cashd out inti fiat which means it is part of the responsibilities of the Government, so for me no hate to them but China's shitnss about spreading FUD and fake news is on another level. I just want them get shut uo ang stop tagging Bitcoin.

[bitctrimor1]

I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government. 

Well honestly in a country like where I live you pay about 80% taxes on every Euro that you make (I think its slightly higher as that 80-86%).
That is because incometax is high but you also pay taxes on EVERYTHING you buy, then there's taxes on your capital, taxes on any land you have.. etcetcetc.

I'm not anti-government we need a government or rather an organ of organisation to remove trash, clean up city's, keep infrastructure working etc.

Though I do think the monetary system is largely being exploited by small groups of people (in relation to the majority).
Class systems are still invisbly in effect.
But most of all its the banks that I despise.

I do think that allot of the people you will meet here who have been doing this for a while are not to keen on banks or the currenct financial system. Neither am I really.

Most people don't really understand the monetary system and I think most who do can be found here.

I don't think bitcoin use is anti-government. Maybe at the current time, governments are just not knowledgeable on how they can utilize the potential of bitcoins to their advantage. Right now, it is very difficult to control it given that its circulation is by means of the internet which is public and hard to regulate in general. However, many countries are already showing signs of interest and some are even planning to regulate or tax it.

[namjar]

I think that all of us who are in this forum is because we really want to have a little bit of privacy inside of our finances, we really want a good change in to this system.
if you dont like the way that bitcoin has proposed the be the new economic system, then why are you here? it is weird because a lot of people are here in order to earn money, but the real ones like me, are the ones who are only looking to have more privacy and the real RIGHT to do not have to provide details about myself in order to spend money like it is happening all around the world.

[xslipstream]

Its not anti-government but rather against the centralization of power that typically preys on the underprivileged.

[faceoff97]

I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government. 

Actually it is not about anti government, it is just that government has no full control over bitcoim..There is government who really acknowledges bitcoin and recognized it as a form of payment. Bitcoin have its decentralized feature that the government can only do is to rehulate it and not merely have full control over it. Basically, bitcoin can stand without government it is an independent system which allows anyone to have it and use it in any way they want. Evem big government canmot maniulate it.

[Bitbratt]

I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government. 

Because they dont benefit from it. They cant control it and they cant corrupt it.

[50ouncebrew]

I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government. 

Actually it is not about anti government, it is just that government has no full control over bitcoim..There is government who really acknowledges bitcoin and recognized it as a form of payment. Bitcoin have its decentralized feature that the government can only do is to rehulate it and not merely have full control over it. Basically, bitcoin can stand without government it is an independent system which allows anyone to have it and use it in any way they want. Evem big government canmot maniulate it.

If the government wants control of Bitcoin, it can get control of Bitcoin. This isn't a debatable thing. The government has many powers to control the people and could even decide to shut down the internet if they wanted. They could regulate crypto so much it would be impossible to use. Let us just be happy that this is not happening, yet at least, and continue working to grow the space.

[Kemarit]

I can feel most of the sentiments here, high taxes, broken promises, the rich becoming richer and the poor become poorer. But I myself is not anti-government, I love my current government it that the mode of living of the common people has not somewhat improved. And I'm lucky that we have a government that's pro-bitcoin so that already a plus for us bitcoiners. If other government would just accept bitcoin and legalized it then we are really going to see bright future for most of the bitcoin enthusiast, however, there are nations who don't understand bitcoin, that's why they hate their government.

[josealerav]

I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government. 

I'm not anti goverment at all. Just because it's their usually work to do with things that they can't controlled. Bitcoin is just one of them.

[Wonder_woman]

I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government. 

We can see that there are big taxes if government already know it, there is possibilities that it will be more strictly to use. We it is not anti government but it's not yet the time that government know it accurately they must learn it for them to understand us.

[pixie85]

I don't like the government. It strips people of their rights and steals from them.
If you think you have rights just wait until you get into trouble with some high ranked official. You'll see how the law usually works. For them to destroy a person is like taking a piss, just a normal daily routine.

[Harrisonimo]

I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government. 

The government themselves are not somewhat happy that the people are finding a way out to source a living and not through them. It is a threat when the source of earnings of the masses elude them. They feel the most that citizens are meant to be loyal to them and beg their way through to get what they rightfully deserve. And the issue of not being able to tax earnings made from Cryptocurrency is a real concern too. I believe with time they can work and find their way through proper dialogue.

[Tankdestroyer]

I can feel most of the sentiments here, high taxes, broken promises, the rich becoming richer and the poor become poorer. But I myself is not anti-government, I love my current government it that the mode of living of the common people has not somewhat improved. And I'm lucky that we have a government that's pro-bitcoin so that already a plus for us bitcoiners. If other government would just accept bitcoin and legalized it then we are really going to see bright future for most of the bitcoin enthusiast, however, there are nations who don't understand bitcoin, that's why they hate their government.

I too am not an anti government but rather I would say I use bitcoin because of decentralization and for the convenience of sending money online. I like to use it because transactions can be done without no middle man and it is not controlled by an entity. Money is more secure in btc if you store it right. I don't hate any nation though for not understanding bitcoin. It is normal that some won't understand the benefits it bring.

[10yearsolder]

I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government. 

Not necessarily anti-government. There are just some features of the government that seem to be encroaching to the choice and freedom of the people. While it may also be about how tolerant we are to the government and its actions, some people are feeling that they are already choked and such feeling will lead into a kind of revolution, although not an armed one. Bitcoin is another direct effect of this feeling, not just against the government of course but also to the banks.

[shata]

"Anti government" probably isn't a fair description. "Anti big government" may be more accurate a term.

I think most recognize citizens of a nation don't need to pay 40% to 50% real tax rates to fund schools, roads, police & other socialist programs. If state programs were run efficiently the cost should be far lower. On a subconscious level people recognize the system is broken somewhere, even if they aren't aware of details relating to specifics.

In the 1600's the working class enjoyed 189 holidays or days off per year. Today that number has been reduced nearer to 104 on average. It probably doesn't take a genius to realize the hours of the average work day is increasing, wages are decreasing while rent, taxes and other liabilities are going up. In the 1950s many could afford a new home, new car & other luxuries with only 1 person in a household working full time. Today to afford the same luxuries typically both parents must work full time. The dream of being a home owner, putting ones kids through college, being able to afford healthcare. All of these things are becoming increasingly difficult to achieve.

Then there are the long list of broken promises politicians have made over the last few decades. The inability on the part of the state to prevent disasters like the economic collapse of 2008, which many economists predicted 2-3 years in advance. The inability to fix basic issues relating to job markets, outsourcing of jobs, taxes, deficit, debt, streamlining of operations, fixing of healthcare, etc.

Decentralization also is not "anti government". Its moreso dividing power and influence in such a way as to make it difficult for systems to become centralized and exploited.

Well this is one of the topics that anyone of us make us dilemma. If you're facing this kind of situation, You will notice that Government is unfair. They are limiting the rights of every people in their country. But you will see how their law works, It strictly limits an every person in their country.
In the other hand, Many people must invest in Bitcoin. You know why? Because it will help you in many ways, including saving and earning money.

[lighpulsar07]

I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  

it's not like that we aren't opposing the government we don't like the centralized way of holding money like banks and also bitcoin is a convenient way of sending money online without using your credit card or debit card and put all your details online making you and your money vulnerable for stealing it. We all know that if a website that you made a purchase was hacked and all of customer credit card details had been shown it's over you will see the charges you didn't purchase online.