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June 05, 2013, 05:56:12 PM
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I like the idea, but living on ships might be too costly.

Maybe we could pool the money and buy the whole country of Nauru Smiley


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June 05, 2013, 06:09:20 PM
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ontoguzzi,

Good deal you say, we would need a military Army, Navy, Air Force to keep the US or any nation from taking us over calling us Terrorists for not participating in the fiat world  Wink

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June 05, 2013, 08:33:20 PM
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not bad looking EarthShips, owning the best looking / functioning earthship in bitcoin town, is probably going to be a good investment  Cheesy

I never understood the desire to put all of those cans into the walls of Earthships. They have the potential to be beautiful, and not look literally like garbage.
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June 05, 2013, 08:45:06 PM
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not bad looking EarthShips, owning the best looking / functioning earthship in bitcoin town, is probably going to be a good investment  Cheesy

I never understood the desire to put all of those cans into the walls of Earthships. They have the potential to be beautiful, and not look literally like garbage.

They act as insulators.
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June 05, 2013, 11:43:11 PM
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Any room for neuroscience majors Smiley
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June 06, 2013, 12:06:39 AM
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There are thousands of acres of in BC Canada that are owned by the Queen of England....If we squat there drill some wells and plant some trees. Do you really think the Queen is going to bring us an eviction notice or force us off the land with military force? The biggest threat would be the oil and gas industry. ITCCS has already issued an arrest warrant for the Queen of England and the previous Pope Benedict seeking to absolve the Canadian Government and bring them all to trial under Common Law for crimes against humanity. The issue is that people don't have the balls to stand up to these tyrannical institutions or at least the wherewithal to hold them accountable for their actions. The are plenty of resources in Canada and plenty of water and plenty of land. The perfect place for sustainable communities.

In reality no one owns land. You simply settle and develop land. And people with the means and/or force are the ones who usually take advantage of the lands abundance. Fuck bureaucracy, fuck governments, fuck industry. Just go make a healthy living for yourself while you still can.

At the bottom i posted just a couple of links. But my wife and I have researched squatters rights, Common Law, ITCCS and Crown Land. Its as real as BTC. Why take out a loan from a bank that doesn't own the land? Why allow all that precious land to go to waste on drilling and industrial development?


http://www.whoownstheworld.com/canada
http://itccs.org/2013/03/15/international-arrest-warrant-issued-against-pope-francis-i-jorge-mario-bergoglio-for-crimes-against-humanity-and-child-trafficking/
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June 06, 2013, 12:53:54 AM
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I like the concept but how can this be trusted? what about security features and anti-theft? computers/laptops/hardware could easily be stolen by undercovers, right?
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June 06, 2013, 01:43:14 AM
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whats the average temperature there in the winter? how about the summer.. I dont like the idea of living in the permafrost.. anything above the 35th parallel is gonna suck 50%+ of the year.

There are thousands of acres of in BC Canada that are owned by the Queen of England....If we squat there drill some wells and plant some trees. Do you really think the Queen is going to bring us an eviction notice or force us off the land with military force? The biggest threat would be the oil and gas industry. ITCCS has already issued an arrest warrant for the Queen of England and the previous Pope Benedict seeking to absolve the Canadian Government and bring them all to trial under Common Law for crimes against humanity. The issue is that people don't have the balls to stand up to these tyrannical institutions or at least the wherewithal to hold them accountable for their actions. The are plenty of resources in Canada and plenty of water and plenty of land. The perfect place for sustainable communities.

In reality no one owns land. You simply settle and develop land. And people with the means and/or force are the ones who usually take advantage of the lands abundance. Fuck bureaucracy, fuck governments, fuck industry. Just go make a healthy living for yourself while you still can.

At the bottom i posted just a couple of links. But my wife and I have researched squatters rights, Common Law, ITCCS and Crown Land. Its as real as BTC. Why take out a loan from a bank that doesn't own the land? Why allow all that precious land to go to waste on drilling and industrial development?


http://www.whoownstheworld.com/canada
http://itccs.org/2013/03/15/international-arrest-warrant-issued-against-pope-francis-i-jorge-mario-bergoglio-for-crimes-against-humanity-and-child-trafficking/
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June 06, 2013, 02:24:13 AM
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OP had to duplicate threads because people called him out too much in his other thread on how bad his idea is.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.0

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We will be writing a town constitution

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we will be allowing people to sell or rent out their plots

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we will be voting on what the land can be used/sold for

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Anyone with no project plans will be lumped together to make a giant plot to rent out for air balloon landings

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Housing won't have any restrictions except for height

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And the person will go to jail, or whatever is decided as punishment

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a town where no one pays taxes

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the prison is paid YOUR taxes based on how many beds it fills

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we could even try to use town funds to buy a private island

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One of those places should start getting government funding, and start housing families & Veterans.

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The libraries should have public printing machines to promote free speech.

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There should also be a publishing program

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We need to have better welfare for regular citizens and veterans

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The government needs to provide for those people

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Computers...everyone should have one no matter how poor. TVs too.

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You only get a Earthship if you want a FREE house

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we will eventually build a radio studio in town

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Exercise programs in the town square every morning.

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we could get a good educational program going and maybe even start our own university

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We would eventually get a bus, then start a fleet

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But once we got enough communal town funds we could work on that.

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We actually hope to make a local restaurant and turn it into a national franchise

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we would need a state of the art medical facility

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The police, health, fire and other government departments should also utilize these programs to earn extra income by creating "cops" like programs, which will also keep them honest since they have viewers.

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We also hope to open a hatchery, and make a lake if we don't start with one.

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we need to go to each church and offer them contracts to not be churches any more

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we find churches that need funding, and pay them to be "community centers"

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opening a non-denominational church in town

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This will be the local religion

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church employees can get a government salary

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We will have plenty of local holidays over time

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There needs to be people that come to every party and bring free food or at least drinks/alcohol

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You need to gather for a reason, not just because it's the weekend or you want to party

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all a community has to work towards is developing shops, housing and eventually public buildings

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I even believe that animals should be liberated and humans should be taught to communicate through body language with animals

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The only way a plant can talk is with its chemicals (ex Poison: Don't touch/eat me) Learn to communicate on a level deeper than speech.

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Everyone would have a machine that they repaired, or checked on.

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you pay for the electricity, you mine the coins, but you give some shit away for free

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Candy Contest, have people make home made candy and have a contest. And it could fit in well with Halloween in the square.

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Classrooms should utilize programs like AdSense and Bitcoin mining. Parents and kids should have to sign a waiver saying that students CAN use their cell phones, cameras and other devices in the classrooms of teachers that deem it acceptable.

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I am working on plenty of Charitable projects

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New Mexico has awesome laws

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Drug dealers would be arrested.

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Manufacturing & Selling cocaine isn't a victimless crime. And neither is prostitution.

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it's illegal to manufacture guns

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I plan on hiding nothing and cooperating (with police) whenever asked.

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We will just have to defend the guy in court

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we can start a political party based on the towns philosophy

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You have to work if you want a share of communal food

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we will not have ongoing outside programs inside our town

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It would be child friendly, we even allow children to vote if they want.

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Education will be non traditional...They will still have the traditional subjects, but they won't be taught like lectures so much.

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We will have a program for children and adults that will work towards creating all kinds of community projects

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We will make dirt bikes legal.

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I would be the one that got tax forms and everything I already plan on that
(for the $2 million land purchase)

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we would work out getting everyone their territory afterwards

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I have plans for a space program. And the creation of a non-territorial nation.


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June 06, 2013, 02:28:22 AM
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I don't know... my reaction was: 'Why don't you just join the Free State Project and make New Hampshire a Bitcoin economy?'
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June 06, 2013, 02:35:08 AM
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I don't know... my reaction was: 'Why don't you just join the Free State Project and make New Hampshire a Bitcoin economy?'

Because the free state in NH is back to the constitution, this sounds like something else, perhaps an oligarchy?
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June 06, 2013, 03:55:47 AM
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It's funny, since you abandoned other thread because we were giving constructive criticism.

What he basically wants to do is:

Make a micronation.
Make a micronation that allows drugs.
Make a micronation so he can use his mind powers to control peoples minds, and allow them to smoke and drink.

In short:
He's trying to make a town without FOLLOWING the state's laws.

Even if he tries to make a Micronation, he ignores anybody who criticizes him.
Oh, I mean 'pretends' to, so he can have a reason to not reply to them.
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In short, he's nothing thinking about 'ifs', he just skipped to when he's the Mayor, and making everybody do what he wants.

He said, "every thing is planned", yet if you ask him anything, he'd most likely say wait.

He's trying to make +12 projects, and as I explained on the other thread, would be way to much money. (He said he'd spend 2Mil on land, but when I calculated the amount a diner he's thinking about would cost (Around 1,900,000.) He instead of worrying about it, posted meme pictures.)

I could latch on if he was making a micronation, but he's making a town, in a state, and trying to make his own laws.)
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June 06, 2013, 04:13:44 AM
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 ITCCS has already issued an arrest warrant for the Queen of England and the previous Pope Benedict seeking to absolve the Canadian Government and bring them all to trial under Common Law for crimes against humanity.

http://itccs.org/2013/03/15/international-arrest-warrant-issued-against-pope-francis-i-jorge-mario-bergoglio-for-crimes-against-humanity-and-child-trafficking/
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The ITCCS is a one man tribunal with no jurisdiction.  I could print a warrant like that against obama or  bernanke and it would be the same.

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June 06, 2013, 02:49:04 PM
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The ship idea would be the best one yet.

Only problems that need to be solved is how to have enough renewable energy to sustainable propulsion and other things.

Or we can do some research and build a city at the bottom of the ocean, and we can call it..... RAPTURE.

Maybe a currency doesn't need a nation, or anything. Bitcoin was started on the internet, so it will inspire from the internet. Bitcoin needs to go viral. The problem is that its so difficult to the layman to understand. I got casascius physical coins delivered to my grandparents house, and they said: "Vat iz this?" and I went: "Bitcoins" and they pulled confused faces and went: "What is a bitcoin?" And there I sighed at the futility of explaining to technophobic grandparents what bitcoin was and how it worked. So I settled for: "It's a currency." Next question was: "Who uses it?" Stumped...

It's people who offer goods and services who help out the bitcoin world.

At the moment, the hysteria is coming from people noticing Bitcoin is a good investment, but this is good because more people become aware, so more people willing to sell goods and services for it. Speculation is the nessecary growing pains, even people who accept bitcoin, but charge their equivilant in local currency. Eventually things will be nice and stable and there will be no need to have these exchange rates, then the bitcoin world will blossom!

But the kid in me would prefer a floating city, or an underwater city. NAY! A submarine city!!!

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June 06, 2013, 03:38:13 PM
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The ship idea would be the best one yet.

An Old Oil Rig

Big enough to house a decent amount of people. Already set up to provide for those people away from the main land.

Renewable energy from Wind, Wave and Solar available and if in doubt the well your sitting on top of might still have a decent supply of oil/gas left. Not enough to be commerically viable but probably enough to provide backup power to run the rig.
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June 06, 2013, 04:02:24 PM
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The ideal location would be Chile, cheap land in a country which is on the rise.
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June 06, 2013, 04:04:05 PM
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The ship idea would be the best one yet.

An Old Oil Rig

Big enough to house a decent amount of people. Already set up to provide for those people away from the main land.

Renewable energy from Wind, Wave and Solar available and if in doubt the well your sitting on top of might still have a decent supply of oil/gas left. Not enough to be commerically viable but probably enough to provide backup power to run the rig.

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June 06, 2013, 04:04:28 PM
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The ship idea would be the best one yet.

It is already underway.

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June 06, 2013, 04:05:38 PM
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The ideal location would be Chile, cheap land in a country which is on the rise.

Already underway.

http://galtsgulchchile.com/

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June 06, 2013, 04:28:32 PM
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The ideal location would be Chile, cheap land in a country which is on the rise.

Already underway.

http://galtsgulchchile.com/

Sounds to me like someone is buying cheap farm land and selling it off for inflated prices
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