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June 03, 2013, 10:49:56 PM
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If you're giving Hazard anything to "code" you a new coin, you are being ripped off.

All he is doing is editing 6 lines of code that a n00b using google could figure out how to do themselves. He is copy/pasting coins and doing little more than changing a few different numbers and then asking for payment for doing so. If you are paying for him to do this, you are being ripped off.

He knows what he is doing is bullshit too, hence the reason his thread is self-moderated, so that when you call him on his bullshit he can just delete your comment and no one will ever know as evidenced below -

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June 03, 2013, 10:51:21 PM
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Not to mention that I found this:

https://andarazoroflove.org/how-to-create-alt-coin-scrypt-clones-for-fun-and-profit-bitcoin-litecoin-secrets-exposed/

If anyone wanted to make another shitcoin, they don't need to pay for it either.

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June 03, 2013, 10:53:49 PM
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If the process is so easy, why aren't more doing it Cheesy

I deleted your comment because it amounted to little more than thread crapping. Deal with it.

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June 03, 2013, 10:54:31 PM
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You're giving him too much of importance with such threads, something he desperately needs  Wink

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June 03, 2013, 11:09:26 PM
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If the process is so easy, why aren't more doing it Cheesy

I deleted your comment because it amounted to little more than thread crapping. Deal with it.

More people aren't doing it because more than 90% of the people on this forum think it's a stupid fucking idea to release new coins with no new innovations (like you do every day).

And to be clear, I usually defend people creating scrypt-clones with no new innovations because I like to see how coins respond to various changes in the base parameters, but what pisses me off about you is that you have the audacity to charge people for something that is as easy as editing a few values in pre-existing code, and you act like you are doing something that requires skill and real coding.

The hardest part of what you are doing is building the genesis block which is only considered difficult because most people have no understanding of how the genesis block is made, but even that can be easily learned with a proper google search.

If you want to make new coins with no innovations and minimal code changes, fine, I have no problem with that, but don't misrepresent what you are doing as real, actual coding for those who don't know how because from what I can tell from what I have seen so far, you don't know how to code either, you just know how to change a few numerical values and find/replace the coin name.
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June 03, 2013, 11:19:23 PM
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If the process is so easy, why aren't more doing it Cheesy

I deleted your comment because it amounted to little more than thread crapping. Deal with it.

More people aren't doing it because more than 90% of the people on this forum think it's a stupid fucking idea to release new coins with no new innovations (like you do every day).

And to be clear, I usually defend people creating scrypt-clones with no new innovations because I like to see how coins respond to various changes in the base parameters, but what pisses me off about you is that you have the audacity to charge people for something that is as easy as editing a few values in pre-existing code, and you act like you are doing something that requires skill and real coding.

The hardest part of what you are doing is building the genesis block which is only considered difficult because most people have no understanding of how the genesis block is made, but even that can be easily learned with a proper google search.

If you want to make new coins with no innovations and minimal code changes, fine, I have no problem with that, but don't misrepresent what you are doing as real, actual coding for those who don't know how because from what I can tell from what I have seen so far, you don't know how to code either, you just know how to change a few numerical values and find/replace the coin name.

Tell that fgt, c4n10!

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June 03, 2013, 11:21:11 PM
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It's fine, you can stay ignorant all you want. You don't affect my business at all Smiley

Time is money, friend.

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June 03, 2013, 11:21:16 PM
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Douglas is a troll, in known quantities.

My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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June 03, 2013, 11:22:56 PM
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It's fine, you can stay ignorant all you want. You don't affect my business at all Smiley

Time is money, friend.

How exactly does ignorance factor into this situation...? Please, enlighten me...
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June 03, 2013, 11:24:47 PM
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IMO, any thread I would start would also be moderated due to all the threadcrapping that goes on too.

Coming from people that want to moderate stuff and have some kind of "control" calling out people on self moding LOL

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June 03, 2013, 11:29:28 PM
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For those of you who don't know, i0coin was one of the older alternate cryptos that had a decent backing before being abandoned by it's developer. Among other issues, a crippling memory leak eventually made the client unusable and the coin died.

I'm currently in the process of fixing all these issues and bringing this coin back to life. To that end, I need people who still have the i0coin blockchain to help me beta test the new client. Inquire if interested!
This is pretty cool.

https://andarazoroflove.org/how-to-create-alt-coin-scrypt-clones-for-fun-and-profit-bitcoin-litecoin-secrets-exposed/ <<< Lots of reading = most people would rather pay Hazard's price even if they knew they could change the values.

I inquired to see if the price seemed reasonable. What was I quoted? 0.5 BTC. A price a lot of people can mine in under a week. Yeah, crap coins come, and crap coins go. So do we run around with our underwear outside of our shorts trying to save the world?

Some, I guess.

Others? They do the research.

Hazard's harm is no less or no more than the next person's.

If you want to read up and learn how to create an ALT, sweet.

If you want to hire someone to do it for you who has experience, then that's cool too.

Until Hazard DOES NOT DELIVER THE SERVICES THAT HE IS PAID TO DO, then all of the whiny, wishy-washy threads need to chill the fuck out.

Oh but thanks for that link on creating your own alt Wink. +1 KudosCoin to you!
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June 03, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
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{WTS} hazards address and personal information

5 BTC obo

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June 03, 2013, 11:30:19 PM
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You're giving him too much of importance with such threads, something he desperately needs  Wink

The only problem I have is quality alts get buried in the crap or are not released.
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June 03, 2013, 11:31:10 PM
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IMO, any thread I would start would also be moderated due to all the threadcrapping that goes on too.

Coming from people that want to moderate stuff and have some kind of "control" calling out people on self moding LOL

At least our topics are not self-moderated like that other fuck.

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June 03, 2013, 11:32:01 PM
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For those of you who don't know, i0coin was one of the older alternate cryptos that had a decent backing before being abandoned by it's developer. Among other issues, a crippling memory leak eventually made the client unusable and the coin died.

I'm currently in the process of fixing all these issues and bringing this coin back to life. To that end, I need people who still have the i0coin blockchain to help me beta test the new client. Inquire if interested!
This is pretty cool.

https://andarazoroflove.org/how-to-create-alt-coin-scrypt-clones-for-fun-and-profit-bitcoin-litecoin-secrets-exposed/ <<< Lots of reading = most people would rather pay Hazard's price even if they knew they could change the values.

I inquired to see if the price seemed reasonable. What was I quoted? 0.5 BTC. A price a lot of people can mine in under a week. Yeah, crap coins come, and crap coins go. So do we run around with our underwear outside of our shorts trying to save the world?

Some, I guess.

Others? They do the research.

Hazard's harm is no less or no more than the next person's.

If you want to read up and learn how to create an ALT, sweet.

If you want to hire someone to do it for you who has experience, then that's cool too.

Until Hazard DOES NOT DELIVER THE SERVICES THAT HE IS PAID TO DO, then all of the whiny, wishy-washy threads need to chill the fuck out.

Oh but thanks for that link on creating your own alt Wink. +1 KudosCoin to you!

agree, there are far worse things than what Hazard is doing.

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June 03, 2013, 11:36:49 PM
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agree, there are far worse things than what Hazard is doing.
Well Thanks Mate. I'm glad someone here isn't wearing the new line of Victoria's Secret. Wink
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June 03, 2013, 11:41:07 PM
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IMO, any thread I would start would also be moderated due to all the threadcrapping that goes on too.

Coming from people that want to moderate stuff and have some kind of "control" calling out people on self moding LOL

What...?


For those of you who don't know, i0coin was one of the older alternate cryptos that had a decent backing before being abandoned by it's developer. Among other issues, a crippling memory leak eventually made the client unusable and the coin died.

I'm currently in the process of fixing all these issues and bringing this coin back to life. To that end, I need people who still have the i0coin blockchain to help me beta test the new client. Inquire if interested!
This is pretty cool.

https://andarazoroflove.org/how-to-create-alt-coin-scrypt-clones-for-fun-and-profit-bitcoin-litecoin-secrets-exposed/ <<< Lots of reading = most people would rather pay Hazard's price even if they knew they could change the values.

I inquired to see if the price seemed reasonable. What was I quoted? 0.5 BTC. A price a lot of people can mine in under a week. Yeah, crap coins come, and crap coins go. So do we run around with our underwear outside of our shorts trying to save the world?

Some, I guess.

Others? They do the research.

Hazard's harm is no less or no more than the next person's.

If you want to read up and learn how to create an ALT, sweet.

If you want to hire someone to do it for you who has experience, then that's cool too.

Until Hazard DOES NOT DELIVER THE SERVICES THAT HE IS PAID TO DO, then all of the whiny, wishy-washy threads need to chill the fuck out.

Oh but thanks for that link on creating your own alt Wink. +1 KudosCoin to you!


My point is not that he is making crap-coins, my point is that he is misrepresenting what he is doing as real coding. When he says:

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"Want your own coin, but can't code...?"

He is clearly implying that he is offering a service providing REAL coding (what he is really doing is taking advantage of the fact that most people don't understand how easy it is to do what he is doing and representing himself as a REAL coder doing REAL coding for a fee.

0.5 BTC... That is more than $50 USD for him to edit numerical values in about 6 lines of code. He is not doing ANY coding, he is editing values.

He is ripping you off at 0.5 BTC and you are defending him while he does it.

Again, I could care less that he is creating coins with no new innovations, check my post history, I defend new scrypt clones all the time that have no new features. What I am complaining about is his misrepresentation of being a real coder providing a real coding service to the unknowing society at large.
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June 03, 2013, 11:41:26 PM
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IMO, any thread I would start would also be moderated due to all the threadcrapping that goes on too.

Coming from people that want to moderate stuff and have some kind of "control" calling out people on self moding LOL

At least our topics are not self-moderated like that other fuck.

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June 03, 2013, 11:46:06 PM
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Not to mention that I found this:

https://andarazoroflove.org/how-to-create-alt-coin-scrypt-clones-for-fun-and-profit-bitcoin-litecoin-secrets-exposed/

If anyone wanted to make another shitcoin, they don't need to pay for it either.

Yeah, someone also posted a tutorial here too...Whats your point? People pay Hazard, because its easier, and they have the BTC for it. Who gives a shit?
Also, Hazard compiles the clients for them, which, as I understand it, is really the hardest part

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June 03, 2013, 11:47:48 PM
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I'm actually a fratstar who bullies the nerds at school into making coins for me.

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