Account Hacking An Inside Job?

[Dorkie]

Hey, Dorkie.
It seems you’re quite upset/obsessed with it and I think you should back off a little nevertheless I can’t blame you for being unconvincing in some of your statements.
Hope you’ll succeed in recovering your account.      

A lot of things are unconvincing to most people today.
If I were to tell people the Mark of the Beast, they would be quick to say I am delusional.
If I were to tell people that bitcoin was actually originated from a secret intel, people would say I am delusional.
If I say bitcoin will be widely accepted and used globally, because the central bankers and top government officials are in favor of it, people would say I am delusional.
If I say bitcoin foundation is built on lies, deceit, and falsehood, people would say I am delusional.

The only thing that is rational to these people is if I say bitcoin is anti-banksters and will free them from government control, pretty much the exact idea they are brainwashed to accept.


Edit:
It is ironic that most people are quick to discredit government ban of bitcoin, saying the government has no power to control it.
And yet these people are in joyous celebration when the same government approves of it.
To date, I have yet to meet another person that notice such irony and self-contradiction of reason and logic.

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[jkumarw]

Email confirmation can be good but how does it work if the email is hacked?

You seem to be against signed btc message which definitely is one of the best methods to recover accounts.

[Dorkie]

Email confirmation can be good but how does it work if the email is hacked?

You seem to be against signed btc message which definitely is one of the best methods to recover accounts.

For the email to be hacked, the hacker needs to hack into Yahoo!/Google/Hotmail's formidable security system.

I am not against signed btc message.
I am against signed btc message as the one and only accepted validation method.

A counter argument:
Signed btc message is good, but how does it work if the wallet/private key is lost?

[Dorkie]

New findings point to not 1000+ account hacked...


... but 150,000 hacked accounts just in 2013.

https://www.tech.com.pk/hacker-are-selling-bitcointalkorg/


Damn, this bitcointalk is an extremely high security risk.


Edit:
I suspect any new forum derived from bitcointalk will someday be hacked just as well.

Edit #2:
I still have strong gut feeling that all the account hack is an inside job.
And the people running the show is very sinister and dark.
Whether the hack is for some pitiful money, is not the main point.

[actmyname]

Lauda the jackass said it himself/herself, that the ultimate one and only way to recover an account is thru signed btc message with a stacked address.

Lauda can be wrong. After all, if you're arguing with them then it clearly means that you find their opinion wrong. Hence why is this any different? Thus I repeat myself: there have been cases in which accounts were retrieved with a means other than signing a message with PGP or BTC addresses.

[Shamie1002]

I have read some instances here in the forum that their accounts were retrieved thru signed btc message.
And in my opinion I don't think that mods and this forum are the only one reliable for our security but ourselves also. If you do not agree on how they run this forum then I think you should find what suits you Sir. Criticism is easier to do than praising someone. This forum helped us and I think respect must be given.

[Cobalt9317]

Such a shame ppl given an opportunity in this forum what you're saying is just unacceptable if you can provide sign message to your Dorky account only then you could prove something sinister.

[guy_wonderful]

Here could be some kind of worm involved. Some group of hackers just spotted the "niche" where they are not stealing the keys , which are strongly secured in the wallets, but  rather a passwords from this forum.

As there is no email confirmation needed to reset password, as I understand from above, makes it's easy to steal.
Or they could simply guess a password. To guess a easy password it's just a matters of time. Who knows, maybe right now, a machine already is at 5359493494 row and has just 4324 rows left to guess yours.

Mine is something like DSYh128Sdidasfqmp . Try that mr. hacker!

You can not make such an accusations.
Just because.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcointalk-accounts-are-being-bought-and-sold/

And take a look at statistics. Numbers of new registrations are growing so fast! That's logical, as more users there will be the more cases of stolen passwords will find a place.

[Dorkie]

I believe I have already said what I needed to say, and wanted to say.

If email confirmation is in place, then the hacker can never permanently take control of an account even if the initial password is as weak as "1234".
If no improvement is taken, it is either because the management has no will power, or because there is hidden motive.
I sincerely do not believe someone in charge of managing a forum for 8 years would be without any will power.
So the only conclusion I can make is the presence of hidden motive.

And while some argue the admin having several millions $ worth of bitcoins wouldn't waste time on some cheap account like mine, I agree.
But I sincerely believe the hidden motive is not as simplistic as selling some accounts for cheap money.

Like my signature goes, signed bitcoin message is an alternative to RFID chip as a Mark "on your forehead".
Just a silly speculation.
No, you are not compelled to believe what I write.
In fact, you should wait until everything is confirmed screwed up and too late, before you believe.

Having said all that, welcome the Phoenix currency come this 2018, that is bitcoin.

Yeah, you are probably right.
Why 2018 when bitcoin was introduced in 2009?
In order to know the answer why, you yourself needs to be an effective leader first.
Sheeps that work 9 to 6 every day will never know why.

[guy_wonderful]

I believe I have already said what I needed to say, and wanted to say.

If email confirmation is in place, then the hacker can never permanently take control of an account even if the initial password is as weak as "1234".
If no improvement is taken, it is either because the management has no will power, or because there is hidden motive.
I sincerely do not believe someone in charge of managing a forum for 8 years would be without any will power.
So the only conclusion I can make is the presence of hidden motive.

And while some argue the admin having several millions $ worth of bitcoins wouldn't waste time on some cheap account like mine, I agree.
But I sincerely believe the hidden motive is not as simplistic as selling some accounts for cheap money.

Like my signature goes, signed bitcoin message is an alternative to RFID chip as a Mark "on your forehead".
Just a silly speculation.
No, you are not compelled to believe what I write.
In fact, you should wait until everything is confirmed screwed up and too late, before you believe.

Having said all that, welcome the Phoenix currency come this 2018, that is bitcoin.

Yeah, you are probably right.
Why 2018 when bitcoin was introduced in 2009?
In order to know the answer why, you yourself needs to be an effective leader first.
Sheeps that work 9 to 6 every day will never know why.

Ahaaa.
What we got here. We agree that admins have enough resource to fix a problem, right? Still they are not fixing it for some of reason, right? And it's not for purpose of selling an accs, cuz they have plenty of money .
 
Let me guess. You want to tell that admins runs some kind of satanic cult in the "backyard". Where they are sacrificing, randomly, some of users accounts? In purpose to scare people. To fulfill an operation, which is: to mark every user of this forum with alternative of "RFID" or whatever "thing" , signed message?

That's what you wanna tell?

[Dorkie]

Ahaaa.
What we got here. We agree that admins have enough resource to fix a problem, right? Still they are not fixing it for some of reason, right? And it's not for purpose of selling an accs, cuz they have plenty of money .
 
Let me guess. You want to tell that admins runs some kind of satanic cult in the "backyard". Where they are sacrificing, randomly, some of users accounts? In purpose to scare people. To fulfill an operation, which is: to mark every user of this forum with alternative of "RFID" or whatever "thing" , signed message?

That's what you wanna tell?

Precisely.

And if the latest email notification addon works to stop all (or at least most) account hacking altogether, you need to thank me for all my shout outs.

[guy_wonderful]

Ahaaa.
What we got here. We agree that admins have enough resource to fix a problem, right? Still they are not fixing it for some of reason, right? And it's not for purpose of selling an accs, cuz they have plenty of money .
 
Let me guess. You want to tell that admins runs some kind of satanic cult in the "backyard". Where they are sacrificing, randomly, some of users accounts? In purpose to scare people. To fulfill an operation, which is: to mark every user of this forum with alternative of "RFID" or whatever "thing" , signed message?

That's what you wanna tell?

Precisely.

And if the latest email notification addon works to stop all (or at least most) account hacking altogether, you need to thank me for all my shout outs.

Okay. Got it. I respect your interesting theories going on here. And you seems to be serious about this matter. In fact, I'm never thought about that. Rfid and signed messages. And a CULT, running right in the middle of a bitcoin hearth, who would have thought.

[Dorkie]

This forum has so many newbie accounts as well as endless cases of accounts hacked, that I feel half of the community is just fake.

You never know if the comment of a member you are reading is actually real comment, or just fake to create some false sentiment.

You can fucking bet my comments are real as gold, since I am the one that kept shouting for email notification for days before Theymos implemented it, after 8 years of operation.

[BRNSTYLE]

I wonder if there's something i'am missing?
Email notifications are implemented, since when?

[hilariousandco]

Since this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2282758.0

[ctubex]

Very interesting findings...

My current Dorkie account is worth 0.00287 BTC, or $16.53 (https://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=9aa6optk).
And my hacked Dorky account is worth 0.0672 BTC, or $387.18 (https://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=kl6r3rkk).

The fact that there is such business freely in operation without restrain whatsoever to buy and sell bitcointalk accounts is now 100% confirmed all the account hacking is 100% inside job.

Edit:
And those sinful + shameless people calling for stacking bitcoin addresses to recover such hacked accounts.
I say bullshit to you.

Let the dogs bark!
You are 100 % right
These guys would kill his own mother for a shitty coins

[neurotypical]

Since this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2282758.0

I asked for something like this ages ago I think, and I was told that it was not implemented because email wasn't considered safe, since emails tends to expire, and with expiration if you don't notice it, someone could re-register the same email and take control of your account by requesting a new password.

I don't see any evidence to claim inside jobs tho. The only thing that grinds my gears a bit is when people present enough evidence that someone owns a certain account by signing BTC addresses which are found in locked threads and unedited posts, but they still take ages to recover it, not sure what the deal with this is but im hoping all these cases get eventually resolved and people are recovering their accounts.

[Zackgeno96]

I don't think its a inside job. Admin and moderators will never perform such a low act to earn the money. I think this forum is already earning enough money from the advertising, so there is no need for such dirty tricks to make the money.