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June 07, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
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As if Verizon's top secret court order leak wasn't bad enough for the NSA, now PRISM, a top secret mass surveillance project was just revealed. This post is for those who haven't (somehow) heard the news:



The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian.

The NSA access is part of a previously undisclosed program called PRISM, which allows officials to collect material including search history, the content of emails, file transfers and live chats, the document says.

The PRISM program allows the NSA, the world's largest surveillance organisation, to obtain targeted communications without having to request them from the service providers and without having to obtain individual court orders.

With this program, the NSA is able to reach directly into the servers of the participating companies and obtain both stored communications as well as perform real-time collection on targeted users.

"Fisa was broken because it provided privacy protections to people who were not entitled to them," the presentation claimed. "It took a Fisa court order to collect on foreigners overseas who were communicating with other foreigners overseas simply because the government was collecting off a wire in the United States. There were too many email accounts to be practical to seek Fisas for all."

"It's shocking enough just that the NSA is asking companies to do this," he said. "The NSA is part of the military. The military has been granted unprecedented access to civilian communications.

"This is unprecedented militarisation of domestic communications infrastructure. That's profoundly troubling to anyone who is concerned about that separation."

The Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data

Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html?hpid=z1
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June 07, 2013, 02:42:22 PM
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This is bad. I'm not even in the US and I still think that now I'm in danger.  Sad

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June 07, 2013, 03:06:10 PM
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NSA has monitored all data outside the USA already for over a decade... Roll Eyes Google "Echelon".

The new thing is that they now are also spying (surprise, surprise!) on their own citizens. Well, actually the real new thing is that someone found out about it, they are probably spying on them already for quite some time.

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June 07, 2013, 03:10:29 PM
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NSA has monitored all data outside the USA already for over a decade... Roll Eyes Google "Echelon".

The new thing is that they now are also spying (surprise, surprise!) on their own citizens. Well, actually the real new thing is that someone found out about it, they are probably spying on them already for quite some time.

I hired a foreign national back in the 1990s, and have since that time assumed that the NSA was capturing/recording everything I do electronically because they can get away with recording me with the excuse that any conversation might be with a foreign national.

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June 07, 2013, 03:24:54 PM
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NSA has monitored all data outside the USA already for over a decade... Roll Eyes Google "Echelon".

The new thing is that they now are also spying (surprise, surprise!) on their own citizens. Well, actually the real new thing is that someone found out about it, they are probably spying on them already for quite some time.
Man, do I feel unsafe now...

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June 07, 2013, 08:06:46 PM
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Loudmouth yes I am.
Absent from the forum for a while : YES I am.

Outraged by the OBAMA administration's PRISM ? YES I AM !

My Comments : This just shuts me up. All I can officially say is that Obama is no longer my favorite american president anymore and the prophecy about a future where we loose our privacy has come true.
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lol and they say its a "Modest encroachment on privacy" .. well it doesnt really matter if you are a street whore or a high class NY whore, you are still a WHORE.

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With that said, I'd like to ask Mr Fortress about his opinion. Which is worse ? SOPA ? or PRISM ?


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June 07, 2013, 10:42:46 PM
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Mark Zuckerberg's Facebook account posted this earlier.

"I want to respond personally to the outrageous press reports about PRISM:

Facebook is not and has never been part of any program to give the US or any other government direct access to our servers. We have never received a blanket request or court order from any government agency asking for information or metadata in bulk, like the one Verizon reportedly received. And if we did, we would fight it aggressively. We hadn't even heard of PRISM before yesterday.

When governments ask Facebook for data, we review each request carefully to make sure they always follow the correct processes and all applicable laws, and then only provide the information if is required by law. We will continue fighting aggressively to keep your information safe and secure.

We strongly encourage all governments to be much more transparent about all programs aimed at keeping the public safe. It's the only way to protect everyone's civil liberties and create the safe and free society we all want over the long term."

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June 08, 2013, 12:19:54 AM
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The thing is the Verizon court order also has a gag part.

i) Companies are allowed to lie for national security reasons.
ii) The Verizon court order explicitly ordered everyone who knew about it to keep quiet.
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June 08, 2013, 12:28:00 PM
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The thing is the Verizon court order also has a gag part.

i) Companies are allowed to lie for national security reasons.
ii) The Verizon court order explicitly ordered everyone who knew about it to keep quiet.
It seems you can't trust anyone in the world right now.

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June 08, 2013, 06:39:47 PM
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The thing is the Verizon court order also has a gag part.

i) Companies are allowed to lie for national security reasons.
ii) The Verizon court order explicitly ordered everyone who knew about it to keep quiet.
It seems you can't trust anyone in the world right now.
At least the mechanics of AKM assault rifle are still trustworthy under any conditions.

What is the most free country in world where internet is unregulated by law? Probably Somalia? Internet there is supplied by foreign mobile carriers so probably they are regulated by french or whatever laws applicable to them.

Software piracy are fully legal and authorized in Iran. But porn and many other good things are blocked there.
Sweden are no more a safe place for data hosting. Now Iceland have taken it's place.
Russia is very bad now because of Putin's developing dementia and resulting laws against many things in internet.

If these trends continiue next 5 to 10 years we are totally fucked. Unless there are independent internet access points launched into space orbit.

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June 08, 2013, 09:33:05 PM
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The thing is the Verizon court order also has a gag part.

i) Companies are allowed to lie for national security reasons.
ii) The Verizon court order explicitly ordered everyone who knew about it to keep quiet.
It seems you can't trust anyone in the world right now.
At least the mechanics of AKM assault rifle are still trustworthy under any conditions.

What is the most free country in world where internet is unregulated by law? Probably Somalia? Internet there is supplied by foreign mobile carriers so probably they are regulated by french or whatever laws applicable to them.

Software piracy are fully legal and authorized in Iran. But porn and many other good things are blocked there.
Sweden are no more a safe place for data hosting. Now Iceland have taken it's place.
Russia is very bad now because of Putin's developing dementia and resulting laws against many things in internet.

If these trends continiue next 5 to 10 years we are totally fucked. Unless there are independent internet access points launched into space orbit.
Or an independant settlement on an another planet.

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PRISM

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PRISM
Thank you Cpt. Obvious!

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I can highly recommend the dub tribute to that album.

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I can highly recommend the dub tribute to that album.
No, thank you.

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I can highly recommend the dub tribute to that album.
No, thank you.

I didn't offer anything.

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I can highly recommend the dub tribute to that album.
No, thank you.

I didn't offer anything.
You recommended listening to the dub tribute of the Pink Floyd's album.

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Not bad, at least Us and Them I think, although The Great Gig was kinda butchered.
An interesting one was Money from the Dubber side of the Moon.
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I can highly recommend the dub tribute to that album.
It's quite nice.

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Good luck NSA I'm behind 7 proxies

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