Energy Based Projects

[RADTEAM]

Current view on Solar with decentralized microgrids makes it a perfect goal for a crypto application. However, the papers I read mostly didn't cover the most important part where the blockchain meets the electrical grid. This is where centralization starts because there is always the utility company that is managing the meters and that's where it quickly degrades to an old trusted party approach. 

[NDioWealthAmp]

Check out ElectricChain, which is closely tied to SolarCoin too, used as an incitative towards switching to solar energy. It can potentially help retail consumers save 2-3 years of equipment reimbursement. The private sector is in need of such initiative and taking back the control of it’s own future  now that most state’s financial aids are cut back versus what they were some years ago.

[Nathan047]

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And I very well could be wrong, but I guess as far as I see it would be very hard to make any mass scale decentralized power grid. Even if people were generating their own power (which I admit is becoming more popular, albeit a bit inefficient), I doubt the electric companies would allow those users to use the company’s power grid independently; and it would have to be nearly impossible to set up your own physical power grid (both financially and getting the rights to build on the roadside).

But, then again I cannot predict the future and it could very well happen; I just feel like it’s to big of a feat at the moment.

Depends on country,Garmany is good example of support small energy producents,thay are buying energy from small producentss,there is thousends of them in Germany,in Autralia people can share sell his solar power to others,it is even good from security point view

Still as I keep saying: While you can sell electricity to the grid in most countries, you’re effectively becoming a freelance power generator for the power company; you’d still be unable to implant one of these systems since it’s not your grid, and this thread was about creating a decentralized grid using one of the systems being developed for just that.

[siforek]

In effect solar companies are already doing 1 element of this. Mass adoption is the hard part, but if you can feasibly get a useable & affordable service to consumers. I like the idea that anyone could say, throw some panels on their roof & in effect mine.

[prehisto]

Still as I keep saying: While you can sell electricity to the grid in most countries, you’re effectively becoming a freelance power generator for the power company; you’d still be unable to implant one of these systems since it’s not your grid, and this thread was about creating a decentralized grid using one of the systems being developed for just that.

Its not true. Actually the situation now in EU at least in some EU countries is that GRID is being used by multiple companies. They sell their energy to customers and yes they pay some amount to grid company but the amount is actually very small. But this is normal, someone has to sustain the grid, we need it!

[prehisto]

There is this one. https://4new.co.uk/

Do anyone have some information about it?

For me it seems as Scam, since the wallet does not have funds even close to the total they are claiming that they have.

[Nathan047]

Still as I keep saying: While you can sell electricity to the grid in most countries, you’re effectively becoming a freelance power generator for the power company; you’d still be unable to implant one of these systems since it’s not your grid, and this thread was about creating a decentralized grid using one of the systems being developed for just that.

Its not true. Actually the situation now in EU at least in some EU countries is that GRID is being used by multiple companies. They sell their energy to customers and yes they pay some amount to grid company but the amount is actually very small. But this is normal, someone has to sustain the grid, we need it!

Even if there are several companies on the same grid it still doesn't change the fact then when you sell power you're becoming a freelance power generator. That's not decentralized because you're selling to and buying form a centralized company. My point is that because of that it's currently impossible to implement one of the decentralized electric distribution systems on a large scale.

Its not true. ... and yes they pay some amount to grid company but the amount is actually very small. But this is normal, someone has to sustain the grid, we need it!

You say it's not true, and then you precede to say it is true and that it's necessary. Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant and/or the topic of this thread?

[Gorgeous011235]

I believe this area is where the real upside is possible going forward - massive market, natural integration of crypto and trading is obvious. Which projects do you think one should have a look at ?

I agree with you and the energy sector based on blockchain technology will definetely face a big growth in the very near future.
So there are two projects in my opinion that you should keep an eye on : powerledger.io and wepower.network
I have personally invested in PowerLedger on the ico stage and have already made a good profit 

[prehisto]

Still as I keep saying: While you can sell electricity to the grid in most countries, you’re effectively becoming a freelance power generator for the power company; you’d still be unable to implant one of these systems since it’s not your grid, and this thread was about creating a decentralized grid using one of the systems being developed for just that.

Its not true. Actually the situation now in EU at least in some EU countries is that GRID is being used by multiple companies. They sell their energy to customers and yes they pay some amount to grid company but the amount is actually very small. But this is normal, someone has to sustain the grid, we need it!

Even if there are several companies on the same grid it still doesn't change the fact then when you sell power you're becoming a freelance power generator. That's not decentralized because you're selling to and buying form a centralized company. My point is that because of that it's currently impossible to implement one of the decentralized electric distribution systems on a large scale.

Its not true. ... and yes they pay some amount to grid company but the amount is actually very small. But this is normal, someone has to sustain the grid, we need it!

You say it's not true, and then you precede to say it is true and that it's necessary. Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant and/or the topic of this thread?

It looks that you are saying that if there is company that controls the grid than there is no possibility of decentralisation? Who will sustain the grid in your ideal decentralisation model?
I meant to say that giving several companies the possibility to use the grid is step in right direction and is decentralisation compared to monopoly. And if one of these companies would be willing to start experimenting with blockchain and using as you say " freelance generators" and kept growing at one point the company would be becoming almost exclusively just a sustainer of system.

I do not see that person that started this thread and also the discussion going solely about  centralisation vs decentralisation, It seems more that it is about quality energy projects, which could positively change the energy market using blockchain.

[Alfredjohn]

Very important is the usage of energy why many people do samo research and project about energy.

[stromae]

I believe this area is where the real upside is possible going forward - massive market, natural integration of crypto and trading is obvious. Which projects do you think one should have a look at ?

I agree with you and the energy sector based on blockchain technology will definetely face a big growth in the very near future.
So there are two projects in my opinion that you should keep an eye on : powerledger.io and wepower.network
I have personally invested in PowerLedger on the ico stage and have already made a good profit  

I'm not sure about this because central and big profit companies would oppose blockchain based energy projects. Suncontract project is the first that comes to my mind. There was also another hydrominer project in the forum, I remember.

[CryptoBeefy]

I like the look of 4New which is green friendly by converting waste to energy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2324618.msg23622544#msg23622544

[Nathan047]

It looks that you are saying that if there is company that controls the grid than there is no possibility of decentralisation? Who will sustain the grid in your ideal decentralisation model?
I meant to say that giving several companies the possibility to use the grid is step in right direction and is decentralisation compared to monopoly. And if one of these companies would be willing to start experimenting with blockchain and using as you say " freelance generators" and kept growing at one point the company would be becoming almost exclusively just a sustainer of system.

I do not see that person that started this thread and also the discussion going solely about  centralisation vs decentralisation, It seems more that it is about quality energy projects, which could positively change the energy market using blockchain.

I don't think that a decentralized grid would work specifically for that reason, but this thread is about using fully decentralized systems to manage the grid (something a lot of projects seem to be focused on lately); and if you look back at my posts in this thread you'll see that I'm stating that this is not possible nowadays because the companies control the grid (and probably always will, although that isn't inherently bad).

Also, looking back at my last reply I hope I didn't come across as being rude (it's always hard tell when expressing via text).

[Hughcrypto]

Look at POWR and how those tokens moved. The large investors that will move into Prosume energy will make an absolute fortune.

Better team, better set up - Powerledger have a market cap of 240m USD currently.

Prosume Energy is the chance of a lifetime.

[bribed]

If you are interested in energy related projects you should really check out Windcoin. Its in early stage still and the distribution is almost done (airdrop #4 this saturday) but its a project with great future. This could be the one gem between all the shitcoins that are being airdropped. They choose the airdrop method for a fair distribution and because they are sick of money grabbing ICO's. Whitepaper is coming really soon and then we will see what value proposition this project offers to us. So far I am heavily impressed by this project.

[LEXITco]

Check out https://powerledger.io/ if you haven't already. Looks very interesting.

Power-Ledger is tight, just saw them in Perth!

[prehisto]

Looks like this thread is dead, lets give it a push.

Project: RED Energy Trading Platform by EU Provider

Project has more or less the same idea as other energy based projects. It is based in Romania, which they praudly states as in EU and has some mysterous EUenergy company support which i couldnt find.

What are your thoughts on this project?
On first sight i think that uses good idea , big dreams  but dont think that they are realistic.