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October 20, 2017, 04:56:06 AM
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i just found a very interesting website (http://mapofcoins.com/) which has interesting information about forks from different cryptocurrencies.
the bitcoin fork map (http://mapofcoins.com/bitcoin) specially took my attention.

according to this site there has been 667 forks in total, 3 of which belong to this month alone.

you can click on the names of these coins and see the code and their website. a lot of them didn't even bother making more than 20 commits in years! or even change anything meaningful when they fork!

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October 22, 2017, 12:46:32 AM
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I could not even imagine that, it turns out, there were already 667 forks of bitcoin. And a significant part of the product created as a result of these forks was dying as useless, and doing nothing for the crypto currency. However, the crypto-currency is inherently decentralized and everyone has the right to make changes and improvements to it. In the future, the market itself determines what is viable and what is not. From this we will not go anywhere. Maybe, so it is true.
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October 22, 2017, 01:52:14 AM
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My God, I can't believe there are 677 forks already. It seems that there's nothing wrong with forks. Let's continue buying bitcoin. Forks only make bitcoin perfect. Do you think that's true? Cheesy
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October 22, 2017, 03:56:51 AM
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~Not true forks, the fork talked about is when the previous blockchain is kept along with the balances and public keys.

In software engineering, a project fork happens when developers take a copy of source code from one software package and start independent development on it, creating a distinct and separate piece of software. The term often implies not merely a development branch, but also a split in the developer community, a form of schism.

that is what i am trying to point out. a fork is what the explanation from wikipedia says, nothing more.
and so far people have been forking bitcoin as many times as they could. some of them even gave free tokens (airdrops) 1:1 to bitcoin holders without using the "previous blockchain" for example bitcore (BTX) is like this. it is a fork of bitcoin with SegWit and 20 MB blocks! and they gave 1 BTX for 1 BTC if you could sign a message.

the new way of forking is not much different from the old way, they are practically doing the same and create the same useless altcoins but they use bitcoin blockchain. it just makes things harder for that altcoin because of the size of the current blockchain (140+ GB) but the result is exactly the same as other 667 forks.

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October 22, 2017, 04:59:34 PM
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according to this site there has been 667 forks in total, 3 of which belong to this month alone.

And more than 2/3 of them are tagged as dead.
The whole copy-paste coinmania should really end.

It's one thing to build a coin from scratch but a copy of bitcoin where you just change the timeblocks and size it's useless.
I honestly don't see any reason for those coins as BTC with a simple change of code could replicate them.

My God, I can't believe there are 677 forks already. It seems that there's nothing wrong with forks. Let's continue buying bitcoin. Forks only make bitcoin perfect. Do you think that's true? Cheesy

There were 667, as I said above.
And forks are not making bitcoin perfect. Their failures are making BTC more trustable.



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October 22, 2017, 05:13:05 PM
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~Not true forks, the fork talked about is when the previous blockchain is kept along with the balances and public keys.

In software engineering, a project fork happens when developers take a copy of source code from one software package and start independent development on it, creating a distinct and separate piece of software. The term often implies not merely a development branch, but also a split in the developer community, a form of schism.

that is what i am trying to point out. a fork is what the explanation from wikipedia says, nothing more.
and so far people have been forking bitcoin as many times as they could. some of them even gave free tokens (airdrops) 1:1 to bitcoin holders without using the "previous blockchain" for example bitcore (BTX) is like this. it is a fork of bitcoin with SegWit and 20 MB blocks! and they gave 1 BTX for 1 BTC if you could sign a message.

the new way of forking is not much different from the old way, they are practically doing the same and create the same useless altcoins but they use bitcoin blockchain. it just makes things harder for that altcoin because of the size of the current blockchain (140+ GB) but the result is exactly the same as other 667 forks.


I wonder how many of these "big block forks" do we need for proponents to see that the free market does not want bigger blocks.

We have BCash, BTX, B2X futures... they keep tanking, meanwhile 1MB BTC aka real BTC keeps making new highs.

Jeff Garzik and NYA proponents are criminals that should be put in jail by trying to shut the market down by killing the legacy chain.
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October 22, 2017, 05:36:11 PM
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the new way of forking is not much different from the old way, they are practically doing the same and create the same useless altcoins but they use bitcoin blockchain. it just makes things harder for that altcoin because of the size of the current blockchain (140+ GB) but the result is exactly the same as other 667 forks.

In my opinion the current alt forks, that fork the BTC blockchain with it, are just a fad. Kind of like the alt flood of 2013, when people were simply cloning Bitcoin, changed some parameters and called it a day.

BCH got much attention because it was the first of its kind. B2X has attention because it has been planned for quite a while and is more or less the result of the NYA. BTG has attention because... fuck if I knew, I guess because they squeezed in between the two major BCH and B2X hardforks?

Either way I'm sure that the novelty will soon wear off.

That being said, I think there's actually quite some value in all these forks (and BTC blockchain hardforks). Not necessarily in terms of monetary potential, but in terms of lessons to be learned of how those changed parameters behave in the real world. Just look at BCH's difficulty adjustment algorithm. Kinda fucked up but interesting to watch, especially in terms of unexpected side-effects.

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October 22, 2017, 05:50:12 PM
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Looking at this information, It just confirms that coins like Bitcoin Gold and other BTC forks wont succeed in long term. No one cares about forks.
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October 23, 2017, 01:02:58 AM
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Looking at this information, It just confirms that coins like Bitcoin Gold and other BTC forks wont succeed in long term. No one cares about forks.

Confirmed.

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October 23, 2017, 04:58:56 AM
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Looking at this information, It just confirms that coins like Bitcoin Gold and other BTC forks wont succeed in long term. No one cares about forks.

it is true that a great deal of these forks are useless and it is a safe assumption that the future ones will also be like that. but it is never "all", for example if you click on the links of the coins that are forked from bitcoin so many of them don't even have a github page anymore! but among them are also some coins like NMC (that tries to do censorship resistant replacement for DNS), LTC (uses Scrypt instead of SHA256 and has lower block time), PPC (hybrid of PoW/PoS),... not that it makes them better but at least they tried some innovative ways.

but in comparison what BTG is doing is using Equihash that has been used before and not really "innovating", BCH increased the block size ... and that was it.

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October 23, 2017, 07:42:29 AM
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I'm looking at that website from a developer perspective and I have a headache lol... it is a neat visualization though.
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October 25, 2017, 08:27:20 PM
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600 fork what's wrong with developers i mean i also got some profit from bitcoin gold andand bitcoin cash but doing so many fork will make these forks useless one day people won't trade with it anymore and it will get dilluted
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October 25, 2017, 08:36:45 PM
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Wow, that's way tto many! What was the original Bitcoin before the first fork I wonder Smiley
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October 25, 2017, 08:42:20 PM
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Looking at this information, It just confirms that coins like Bitcoin Gold and other BTC forks wont succeed in long term. No one cares about forks.

All they’re good for is a bit of free money for those holding bitcoin. None of these shitcoins will ever succeed long term.

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October 25, 2017, 08:46:27 PM
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This is amazing, but they were different forks because we did not receive them on our wallets just like it happened with the last two forks (bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold) because they were instantly credited on our wallets. And Litecoin is just a copy of the code of bitcoin, that is not exactly a hard fork or just a fork of bitcoin, because it is a clone.
The same with the other alts, i have never heard about them, not even seeing them listed in somewhere.
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I'm looking at that website from a developer perspective and I have a headache lol... it is a neat visualization though.

LOL - this made me laugh.

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November 02, 2017, 06:41:48 AM
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This is amazing, but they were different forks because we did not receive them on our wallets just like it happened with the last two forks (bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold) because they were instantly credited on our wallets. And Litecoin is just a copy of the code of bitcoin, that is not exactly a hard fork or just a fork of bitcoin, because it is a clone.
The same with the other alts, i have never heard about them, not even seeing them listed in somewhere.

For your information, many of the hundreds/thousands of crypto currencies are listed here:
https://coinmarketcap.com/

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November 02, 2017, 06:49:18 AM
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More than 70% of those forked coins are no more working, defunct. For changes developers must dig into the source code, and invest a lot of time! and create something that is a copy and can't return any revenue.
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This is amazing, but they were different forks because we did not receive them on our wallets just like it happened with the last two forks (bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold) because they were instantly credited on our wallets. And Litecoin is just a copy of the code of bitcoin, that is not exactly a hard fork or just a fork of bitcoin, because it is a clone.
The same with the other alts, i have never heard about them, not even seeing them listed in somewhere.
I guess, majority of those forked coins, come from unpopular devs, bitcoin allow everyone to modify its source code and release by their own because it's open source. But the thing is, how to bring people to use their forked coins after succesfully deploying a forked coins.
That's why vast majority of all those forks becoming either useless or unpopular. The airdrop that happen from bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold, mainly because they want to make the circulating coins the same as bitcoin so they airdrops in 1:1 ratio. Also, those two are popular forked coins.

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November 02, 2017, 07:15:20 AM
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Anybody can fork bitcoin at any time as the code is opensource.

If you want a fork like bitcoin cash or the upcoming one, you need community and miner support, else the coin will simply left to die.
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