Got blacklisted by the SMAS crooks

[tee-rex]

I have found myself in the SMAS black list here. My post history is open to everyone, so I invite the SMAS managers to explain in the open the exact reasons why I've been added to this list. Thank you.

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[Lauda]

1) This is not a Meta issue.
2) Whether some other, random, manager agrees with the ban or not is completely irrelevant to me.

[tee-rex]

I'm in your black list too. Do you confirm that you think I'm spamming the forum? If so, what my posts match your criteria as spam?

[Lauda]

I'm in your black list too.

You're part of the SMAS list because I've added you to my list.

Do you confirm that you think I'm spamming the forum?

Yes.

If so, what my posts match your criteria for spam?

I'm just going to spend a lot of my free time to read your useless posts because I don't have anything better to do./s

[tee-rex]

So you can't provide any real evidence of me spamming. Thank you.

[LoyceV]

So you can't provide any real evidence of me spamming. Thank you.

You have posts in Spam Megathreads, like this one on page 129.
I've seen way worse posters than you though, this user for example is probably burstposting on an industrial scale on many accounts.

[tee-rex]

So you can't provide any real evidence of me spamming. Thank you.

You have posts in Spam Megathreads, like this one on page 129.
I've seen way worse posters than you though, this user for example is probably burstposting on an industrial scale on many accounts

So just because I posted in the thread which is thought to be spammers' thread, I shoud be tagged as a spammer? why this thread doesn't get locked then? I'm quoting the post you mention below:

Of course the bitcoin price matters, if it wasn’t for the price bitcoin wouldn’t be so popular, anyone who sees the price immediately wants to invest in it , and the higher the price the more users we will have and the more users the more companies and websites start accepting it as a payment method.

Yes and that is why bitcoin now is so popular because of its price. And it is the one why there are some people who are attracted and convinced easily to use bitcoin upon seeing its value because they think that it is easy to get some of it. But the reality is that for new users it is hard to acquire bitcoins  and it is not that easy the way they think.

People are so amazed with the current price of bitcoin especially the newbie, they think it will continue so they will buy bitcoins and try to hold it for a longer time. I hope also for a good price that will continue in the future as I myself have invested with bitcoin.

a newbie feelings sometimes better than an experienced one, when an experienced thinking too much and didn't make a quick decision , a newbie take a quick decision once they see a good move of bitcoin price, they simply follow it to the moon. so it's really matter especially for a newcomer they only look at the value , nothing else.

Mark my words, if the price continues to soar for the next few days and comes close to $1,500 level, people will start talking about a paradigm shift and some new value that Bitcoin has just acquired. And when most people start believing in this, the market and its manipulators will inevitably strike back swallowing all buy orders down to $700 level or even below just like it now swallows all sell orders without a hiccup.

To win you should follow the price manipulators' train of thought.

I've been putting effort and thought in every post I make regardless of the thread. I have heard people complaining about being put in this SMAS list for no valid reason either. Ironically, my words in this post turned out to be true. The price crashed to below 750$ in less than two weeks.

[LoyceV]

So just because I posted in the thread which is thought to be spammers' thread, I shoud be tagged as a spammer?

I didn't say that, I just gave an example from your post history.

I've been putting effort and thought in every post I make regardless of the thread. I have heard people complaining about being put in this SMAS list for no valid reason either. Ironically, my words in this post turned out to be true. The price crashed to below 750$ in less than two weeks.

Basically, SMAS is a private blacklist. The creator can put whoever he wants on there.
I have a couple hundred people blacklisted too, it's my private list. The moment I'm running a campaign again, they're all out for things they did in the past. I could publish my list, but it would only raise questions and complaints, so I don't.

As for being on Lauda's list: you can ask to be reviewed after 60 days.

[Lauda]

I have heard people complaining about being put in this SMAS list for no valid reason either.

Spammers gonna spam and complain.

As for being on Lauda's list: you can ask to be reviewed after 60 days.

Which has, unfortunately, ended up being a complete waste of time in most cases.

[tee-rex]

So just because I posted in the thread which is thought to be spammers' thread, I shoud be tagged as a spammer?

I didn't say that, I just gave an example from your post history.

I've been putting effort and thought in every post I make regardless of the thread. I have heard people complaining about being put in this SMAS list for no valid reason either. Ironically, my words in this post turned out to be true. The price crashed to below 750$ in less than two weeks.

Basically, SMAS is a private blacklist. The creator can put whoever he wants on there

Yes, but they make it look like they are serving the public good. If someone like Lauda makes claims about fighting spam here, he should be ready to explain the exact reasons why someone gets tagged as a spammer. This is no longer a private issue once it is made public. You see how it turns out to be in real life. And this dude had been caught blackmailing someone around here, so his intents are dubious and questionable at best.

As for being on Lauda's list: you can ask to be reviewed after 60 days.

I shouldn't be there in the first place. If this dude is pretending to be fighting spam here and making public claims about that, there should be valid reasons for putting people in the black list.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I'm surprised you got blacklisted, too, as your posts aren't that bad.  They're better than at least 95% of what I read here.

Maybe stop posting in the huge spam mega threads and revisit the issue with Lauda in 60 days.  That's good advice anyway, because you may end up with deleted posts from those threads, and it's just a waste of your time to begin with.   There are campaigns that don't use the smas blacklist, like edwardard's & I think strawbabies.  Try one of those if that's your thing.

[Lauda]

I'm surprised you got blacklisted, too, as your posts aren't that bad. 

Context is missing; check the gap in his post history. I'd be inclined to believe that he was likely blacklisted from the Bitmixer campaign.

They're better than at least 95% of what I read here.

That does not necessarily mean that he shouldn't be blacklisted.

Maybe stop posting in the huge spam mega threads and revisit the issue with Lauda in 60 days.  That's good advice anyway, because you may end up with deleted posts from those threads, and it's just a waste of your time to begin with. 

Correct. However, in most cases people just rush into a review when 60 days have passed without there actually being any improvement.

[tee-rex]

and revisit the issue with Lauda in 60 days

There is nothing to revisit. I don't consider my posts as spam. I was posting in BitMixer campaign, and after I was kicked out by Lauda, I wasn't very active in the forum. I just didn't feel like posting anymore here. Ironically, if my posts are not spam, this group of the self-proclaimed spam fighters are in fact contributing to spam instead of preventing it by punishing legit posters. Why am I not surprised? If I'm not mistaken, I was participating in a few camapigns run by Lutpin before, and all my posts had always been counted unless I was posting in a thread where posts weren't counted. He can check his files. And after I got blacklisted by Lauda, I miraculously made it into Lutpin's blacklist too soon thereafter. I would like to hear Lutpin explain this thing as well. He seems to pretend to be a spam fighter too.

Context is missing; check the gap in his post history. I'd be inclined to believe that he was likely blacklisted from the Bitmixer campaign

Which gap do you refer to? As I said above, I had no desire to post here anymore having been tagged as a spammer by you. Do you call that spam fighting? And remember I had PM'ed you, and I can prove that I was kicked out exactly on January 4th. There is no need to insinuate about "context" simply because there is none. I had been making like 50 posts a week since I had enrolled in BitMixer campaign, and they all remain in their place in my post history.

What my posts are spam according to you? You have yet to provide any proof. This is no longer a private issue.

[Lutpin]

What my posts are spam according to you? You have yet to provide any proof. This is no longer a private issue.

No, they don't. Their list is theirs to make and ours to agree with.
Opinions of anyone else don't matter in this regard.

[tee-rex]

What my posts are spam according to you? You have yet to provide any proof. This is no longer a private issue.

No, they don't. Their list is theirs to make and ours to agree with.
Opinions of anyone else don't matter in this regard.

They don't what? Could you please make your point clear? Do you consider my posts as spam? If you don't, why am I in your list too? If you mean that your list should match Lauda's, what's the purpose of keeping your own list at all? Anyway, if the lists should match, why yahoo62278, who is also part of this SMAS group, is not adding me to his black list as well? He seems to have managed the majority of the campaigns that I had ever been enrolled in, and he never had any issue with my posts.

So why did you add me to your list?

[Lauda]

First read the actual description of SMAS before asking stupid questions. In other words, read before you spam with *legitimate questions*.

If you don't, why am I in your list too?

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Anyway, if the lists should match, why yahoo62278, who is also part of this SMAS group, is not adding me to his black list as well? He seems to have managed the majority of the campaigns that I had ever been enrolled in, and he never had any issue with my posts.

So why did you add me to your list?

A current combination of the lists of Lauda and yahoo can be found in the first reply.

Playing the victim whilst actually not even reading the description of the project that you're complaining about.

[tee-rex]

First read the actual description of SMAS before asking stupid questions. In other words, read before you spam with *legitimate questions*.

If you don't, why am I in your list too?

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You won't have any difficulty finding me in Lutpin's list.

Playing the victim whilst actually not even reading the description of the project that you're complaining about

I'm still waiting for you to bring forth the facts of me spamming in the forum. You accused me of spamming before, you accused me of spamming in this very thread again without providing any real evidence, and now you dare accuse me of playing the victim? Who is actually trying to play the victim here?[/code]

[Lauda]

You won't have any difficulty finding me in Lutpin's list

That is not Lutpin's list, that is the combined SMAS list, idiot. I take it that these posts will count towards your current signature campaign, thus there is no reason to be surprised.

[tee-rex]

You won't have any difficulty finding me in Lutpin's list

That is not Lutpin's list, that is the combined SMAS list, idiot.

So you are the only one to blame, all the worse for you. Now you may want to show the posts which you consider as spam. I got blacklisted right after I was kicked by you from the BitMixer campaign on January 4th. I can prove that by posting here our PM's if you question that date. All my posts are in place since the time I had enrolled in this campaign, and somewhere in my post history should be an enrollment post. Now show which of my posts are spam within those two dates. I was enrolled maybe for a month or so. This won't take much of your time. You already spent more posting here.

[Lauda]

So you are the only one to blame, all the worse for you. Now you may want to show the posts which you consider as spam. I got blacklisted right after I was kicked by you from the BitMixer campaign on January 4th. I can prove that by posting here our PM's if you question that date. All my posts are in place since the time I had enrolled in this campaign, and somewhere in my post history should be an enrollment post. Now show which of my posts are spam within those two dates.

The only thing that you shall get, given your behavior and spamming nonsense, is the following image: