BitCoins for Edward Snowden.

[faiza1990]

Just sent 1 BTC to our hero.

USA official declare him enemy of state so why you call him hero

Because he is a hero.

yes I agree first hero declares as enemies and then they became heroes

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[marcus_of_augustus]

Just sent 1 BTC to our hero.

USA official declare him enemy of state so why you call him hero

.. it's just how it happens with rogue states. Lies are Truth, up is down, black is white, bad is good ... everything goes crazy because the governing infrastructure is effectively at war with the citizenry so nothing seems to make sense any more. It's kind of tearing itself apart, the fabric of society is being disintegrated by the legal and moral contradictions spewing out in the form of decrees and edicts.

[justusranvier]

USA official declare him enemy of state so why you call him hero

Because the government of the USA are terrorists.

[Zarathustra]

Just sent 1 BTC to our hero.

USA official declare him enemy of state so why you call him hero

.. it's just how it happens with rogue states.

That's a tautology, dear Marcus of Augustus. A state is by definition a rogue. And it is more than that: It's organized violence.

Lies are Truth, up is down, black is white, bad is good ... everything goes crazy because the governing infrastructure is effectively at war with the citizenry so nothing seems to make sense any more.

The state has been at war against humankind since the invention of the state, 10'000 years ago. Citizenry is the result of that. Citizenry is the cartoon of humankind - a citizen is not a human, but a cartoon of it, a collectivist, a protection money payer, an enforced mafioso.

[faiza1990]

USA official declare him enemy of state so why you call him hero

Because the government of the USA are terrorists.

now they will start war against you and may be deployed you in sea that you are against their views

[Its About Sharing]

USA official declare him enemy of state so why you call him hero

Because the government of the USA are terrorists.

now they will start war against you and may be deployed you in sea that you are against their views

Nah, it is apparent from Prism that few people are buying the government line anymore. They know it and they are sweating.

They are going all out to stay in control, but it looks like they are losing their grip.
The whole Syrian thing is not going well for them. They wanted to be in there with their latest false flag attack (Assad using chemical weapons when it looks like the Rebels did) but that didn't work and Russia
has stepped things up. Luckily, we the people have friends. And Obama's charade is falling apart as well.

Apparently we have friends in the US military who are not buying into things...

Hopefully the criminals clinging to power don't get their war or whatever means they will try for to stay, or regain control.

It is important for people to speak their minds and not let the panopticon direct their actions. We are our own "public relations"...

Enjoy the show, and we got the Universe on our side.  

[dave0003]

I have a question for Mr Snowden pls

What about this?
Holographic Versatile Disc

[marcus_of_augustus]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/12/16/an-nsa-coworker-remembers-the-real-edward-snowden-a-genius-among-geniuses/

Perhaps Edward Snowden’s hoodie should have raised suspicions.

The black sweatshirt sold by the civil libertarian Electronic Frontier Foundation featured a parody of the National Security Agency’s logo, with the traditional key in an eagle’s claws replaced by a collection of AT&T cables, and eavesdropping headphones covering the menacing bird’s ears. Snowden wore it regularly to stay warm in the air-conditioned underground NSA Hawaii Kunia facility known as “the tunnel.”

“That kid was a genius among geniuses,” says the NSA staffer. “NSA is full of smart people, but anybody who sat in a meeting with Ed will tell you he was in a class of his own…I’ve never seen anything like it.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-16/judge-rules-nsas-indiscriminate-arbitrary-invasion-privacy-likely-unconstitutional

Oh how the tide is turning, beware of the flood tide of truth when it comes. Wonder why it is Libertarians seem it be over-represented by genius ... hmmm, I wonder, think they know something?

[TheFootMan]

I saw the 60 minutes piece with NSA. And then I read the guardian story about it later on.

NSA is of course trying desperately to regain public trust, but it's all a play, it's all scripted.

Personally I think it's so sad that honesty does not exist in this world. You can't believe a word that you hear.

While Snowden was depicted as a cheater and a weirdo by the NSA, a former colleague of Snowden called him a genius among geniuses.

It's also really comforting that this FISA court has no way of enforcing or overseeing their rulings, they just need to trust NSA to do the right thing.

Meanwhile, the nobel price peace winners home country, the US of A killed a dozen people in a wedding convoy in Yemen:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/15/world/meast/yemen-drones/

So let me get this right.

1. Terrorists are humans who kills innocent people. The people killed are often random passers by, or just being at the wrong spot at the wrong time.

2. The US Govt. just killed a dozen people in a wedding convoy, most of them completely innocent people.

How does this not make the US Govt terrorists? This is only collateral damage, not to be concerned about?

I think this question is warranted: How would you feel about it, if you went to a wedding with your spouse, to celebrate some of the finest day in someones life, and then all of a sudden pure carnage took place. Your wife had her intestines spilling out of her gut, while her head is shot off from the blast, and she's bleeding to death. Your son is nothing but wet spagetthi on the ground, looking like somebody just prepared a meat pudding. Yourself, you can't see a thing, as you just got both blinded and deafened by the blast. A dozen of the people you love and care about are dead. Life will never be the same again, your health and your family is ruined. The survivors will grow an intense hate towards the people who committed this atrocious crime. And thus new terrorists are born.

The industrial-millitary complex keeps churning, making, maintenance and contracts regarding drones, sattelites and ground stations. Everything is profit for the businesses involved. The lives of innocent civilians does not matter.

The lives of people in Yemen are worth exactly zero. Imagine the outrage if this happend in London, in Berlin or in Washington.

The interesting thing is however that what somebody does against someone else, it can always be returned. If the US can develop drone technologies and do drone attacks, who else can? And can the payload and casualties be increased? What will happen in the world in the years to come - that's the interesting question.

Nobody could imagine that NSA would put their hands down and say: Yes, we did wrong - and we will mend our ways.

By the end of the day - everybody working at the NSA, or any business in the millitary industry complex, or for any other state millitary has the same basic needs. Everybody needs to have somebody to love and to be loved, everybody enjoys time in harmony and peace with their family. So in the protected environment of our homes, we make love, we show love, we pet our dog, we feed our cat, but once we go out the door, we put on the iron mask. We do not care about other people. Somebody having a breakdown of their car on the highway? We don't stop, it could be a trap, not our business, they'll get help anyway.. Somebody just died in an accident on the highway. Well, bad luck we say - and keep driving. Somebody got droned in Yemen, well that's just as interesting as knowing there was snowing in Chicago last saturday and their basketball team lost a match. We yawn and keep driving, finally arriving home, taking off the iron mask, placing it in the entrance, and for a few hours we become human with our family before it's time to repeat it all over again. And in the end... what happens.. ? Who knows. Perhaps you become the victim of a terrorist attack caused by someone who was turned into a terrorist by having their family killed in a drone attack? Or perhaps you get killed in a dark alley by a petty thief that just wants your money, but you rejected his demands, or while you put on lipstick waiting for the green light on your daily drive to your job as a consultant at Fort Meade.

A hollywood movie with a karma theme would be quite interesting.

[justusranvier]

1. Terrorists are humans who kills innocent people. The people killed are often random passers by, or just being at the wrong spot at the wrong time.

2. The US Govt. just killed a dozen people in a wedding convoy, most of them completely innocent people.

How does this not make the US Govt terrorists? This is only collateral damage, not to be concerned about?

The same arguments that the US Government uses to excuse their "collateral damage" could legitimately be claimed by the 9/11 hijackers.

If you look at the amount of damage the US's economic hit men did to countries around the world, any resident of those countries could plausibly claim that the Pentagon and World Trade Center contained legitimate military targets from their perspective.

If you apply even the slightest bit of logical consistency to the matter,  the US DoD and Al-Qaeda are in the same category - either both are terrorist organizations, or neither of them are.

[Desensitizer]

How does one provide Edward Snowden a bitcoin address without anyone else gaining access to it. He's kinda in hiding right now so it's not like you can simply go and whisper the private key in his ear so he can gain access to all his donated coins. Until that problem has been solved I'm not donating anything.

[tclo]

To be fair, Snowden made this all about him anyway.  In front of the camera from day 1, regular interviews and statements, flirting with various countries for asylum, etc. 

"flirting"  What would have had him do instead...just come back to the USA and spend a life in prison?  Very weird veiew you have of it is struggle for survival.

[NewLiberty]

To be fair, Snowden made this all about him anyway.  In front of the camera from day 1, regular interviews and statements, flirting with various countries for asylum, etc. 

"flirting"  What would have had him do instead...just come back to the USA and spend a life in prison?  Very weird veiew you have of it is struggle for survival.

Snowden didn't have editorial control.  What you saw is what the media wanted you to see, and what would sell advertisements.
Media is the natural ally of the government propaganda in these cases.  What sells the adverts is also what hurts the whistleblower the most.  The focus on the person, the human interest drama, the chase scene.
All the hard facts and technical details about why the whistleblower did it and what was revealed is only a minor element in the plot of the story.  Those are purely secondary to the love interests, the sordid pasts, the flight vs the captivity.

[NewLiberty]

moving forward there will never be a time that we will have privacy from government. the age of privacy is and forever will be a thing of the past. the good news is that the internet is a two way looking glass. for the first time in history we can stare right back at them. 

βλεπoμεν γαρ αρτι δι εσoπτρoυ εν αινιγματι
Through a glass, darkly.

[speedtrader]

Edward Snowden truly is a hero for freedom. Anyone who donates, props. 

[Honeypot]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA christ you kids crack me up.


The reason this kid 'left all behind' is because he was foolish enough to mistake his childish and vainglorious 'revolutionary' urge as something 'heroic'. He left his family, 'girlfriend' (a more selfish and self-absorbed bitch I have seldom seen - pole dancing shallow whore that she is), and his job not because he is an established and determined revolutionary - he is suffering under a VERY CHILDISH delusion that what he has done is something 'remarkable' and 'like a fighter for freedom'.

His every word and actions in running from the results of his actions prove him nothing less than a pathetic fool on the same level as bradley manning - insecure, infantile, and infinitely gullible kid easily manipulated and cajoled by reality who is only a hero in his own mind, along with multitude of similarly lacking peoples. His ultimate goal is self-congratulation, self-masturbatory delusions about 'standing up for something'. Well, he certainly didn't even attempt to stand up to something in a position that presented even a remote threat to him - he ran like a bitch to cower behind something else and spout their shallow nonsense from safety of someone else's skirt.

Is there any wonder why authorities and people in power look upon you with contempt when your standards are so pathetic?

Sitting behind a computer and bitching about 'civil liberties' must have felt very comfortable in the relative safety of 1st world nation, but I am sure reality slapped him around a few times when he decided to book it to china then russia, beacon of democracy and civil liberties that they are. I am sure MSS and FSB/SVR had much fun tossing this kid around like a cheap piece of meat and holding his strings.


Cowards like snowden exemplify everything that's wrong with younger 1st world generations today, and the fact that this loser and coward is being held up as a 'hero' by ignorant and petulant fools stands as an embarrassment for all who are citizens of those nations. His profile is practically a textbook example of insecure, childish internet 'hero' (a weaboo on top of that) whose notion of 'determination' consists of running away anything that presents even a slight real challenge.

Save your money. Save your pseudo-intellectual platitudes about 'liberty' and 'democracy'. If anyone's doing more to damage those two causes, it's you who think democracy and liberty are sunday morning cartoon themes.

Fish rots from the head - and the ultimate head of democracy is supposed to be the public. Your state is rotten indeed.


For Fucks sake, please grow a pair and grow the fuck up. 1st world doesn't need fools like these getting too mouthy for their own good.

[wachtwoord]

Edward Snowden truly is a hero for freedom. Anyone who donates, props. 

This. I cannot let the previous post be the last post in this topic for more than a few minutes.

[chowderman]

Edward Snowden is a modern day hero and deserves support for everyone who wants to preserve basic liberties, democracy and privacy. Do not let them demonise this guy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

In footage shot by The Guardian newspaper, Edward Snowden said he packed his bags for Hong Kong three weeks ago, leaving behind a "very comfortable life'' in Hawaii, a salary of $200,000, a girlfriend, a stable career and a loving family.

"I'm willing to sacrifice all of that because I can't in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they're secretly building." Snowden said.

But he believed that the value of the internet, along with basic privacy, is being rapidly destroyed by ubiquitous surveillance. "I don't see myself as a hero," he said, "because what I'm doing is self-interested: I don't want to live in a world where there's no privacy and therefore no room for intellectual exploration and creativity."

Once he reached the conclusion that the NSA's surveillance net would soon be irrevocable, he said it was just a matter of time before he chose to act. "What they're doing" poses "an existential threat to democracy", he said.

We just need to snag a BTC address for him .

He is a criminal and a traitor and he doesn't deserve anything but prison time. It's just fools, other criminals and anarchists that also belong prison that keep trying to support this idiot.

Anyone who is donating is just aiding and abetting a fugitive and belongs in prison with him.

[Honeypot]

Snowden doesn't need anyone's help to 'demonize' and embarrass himself

[TheFootMan]

Ok, If I look away from your tone in this post. I have a few questions.

1. What should Snowden have done?
2. Was it wrong of him to disclose the information that he did?
3. Do you assume that Snowden thought that his action would have no consequences and that he never assumed at some point that he even might have been killed?
4. When he did what he did, would it be better to stay in the USA and face the consequences, would that make him 'more of a man' ?
5. You mention Manning as well, was what he did wrong?
6. When governments or governmental organizations does anything wrong, should this never be disclosed?
7. What do you need to do to become a hero in your eyes?
8. Can you only be a hero if you're on the battlefield exposed for live bullets?
9. What do you get out of ridiculing Snowden and Manning?
10. Are the US Govt always right?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA christ you kids crack me up.


The reason this kid 'left all behind' is because he was foolish enough to mistake his childish and vainglorious 'revolutionary' urge as something 'heroic'. He left his family, 'girlfriend' (a more selfish and self-absorbed bitch I have seldom seen - pole dancing shallow whore that she is), and his job not because he is an established and determined revolutionary - he is suffering under a VERY CHILDISH delusion that what he has done is something 'remarkable' and 'like a fighter for freedom'.

His every word and actions in running from the results of his actions prove him nothing less than a pathetic fool on the same level as bradley manning - insecure, infantile, and infinitely gullible kid easily manipulated and cajoled by reality who is only a hero in his own mind, along with multitude of similarly lacking peoples. His ultimate goal is self-congratulation, self-masturbatory delusions about 'standing up for something'. Well, he certainly didn't even attempt to stand up to something in a position that presented even a remote threat to him - he ran like a bitch to cower behind something else and spout their shallow nonsense from safety of someone else's skirt.

Is there any wonder why authorities and people in power look upon you with contempt when your standards are so pathetic?

Sitting behind a computer and bitching about 'civil liberties' must have felt very comfortable in the relative safety of 1st world nation, but I am sure reality slapped him around a few times when he decided to book it to china then russia, beacon of democracy and civil liberties that they are. I am sure MSS and FSB/SVR had much fun tossing this kid around like a cheap piece of meat and holding his strings.


Cowards like snowden exemplify everything that's wrong with younger 1st world generations today, and the fact that this loser and coward is being held up as a 'hero' by ignorant and petulant fools stands as an embarrassment for all who are citizens of those nations. His profile is practically a textbook example of insecure, childish internet 'hero' (a weaboo on top of that) whose notion of 'determination' consists of running away anything that presents even a slight real challenge.

Save your money. Save your pseudo-intellectual platitudes about 'liberty' and 'democracy'. If anyone's doing more to damage those two causes, it's you who think democracy and liberty are sunday morning cartoon themes.

Fish rots from the head - and the ultimate head of democracy is supposed to be the public. Your state is rotten indeed.


For Fucks sake, please grow a pair and grow the fuck up. 1st world doesn't need fools like these getting too mouthy for their own good.