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October 24, 2017, 05:57:38 AM
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When investing in ICOs, are there times when you invest for a high ROI but don't really care for the cause behind the project? Or do you only invest when you believe the project has a strong use case and feel personally attached?

I am new to BitcoinTalk but I am not new to investing. With all my investments, my criteria is whether I believe in the idea and whether it is something the world needs. In other words, if I don't feel personally invested in the idea, then I won't be investing my money.

For example, there is a new project called Protex and I invested in their pre-sale because I believe they are going to solve a major issue the entire world has. They are a data security company that will give the power of data back to the users instead of large corporations. All while essentially eliminate data breaches. With a platform that will positively affect everyday of my life, it is easy to be invested in them.

But I want to know your thoughts! In it just for the money?
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October 24, 2017, 06:13:08 AM
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To be honest, I am in it for the money in every aspect Smiley

Well, I wouldnt join anything if it clearly was illegal and/or morally wrong stuff. But other than that its for the potential money Smiley
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October 24, 2017, 06:26:25 AM
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I only invest in reliable and trustworthy projects. Some of such projects do start to operate soon while some takes years. But the best thing about these projects is, they don't pump and dump large.



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October 24, 2017, 06:29:33 AM
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I have done this just for the money - speculating as best as possible. The thing is I have stopped this. Its time consuming and often is not very profitable.

I now look carefully for an ICO and invest in it.
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October 24, 2017, 06:30:42 AM
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I am following 3-4 ICO for november. They are all real businesses and already running. I choose real projects not shitty dreams like super computer or changing the world etc.
Find and follow until the pre-sale start date. And i usually join the pre-sale stage cause of bonus strtucture.
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October 24, 2017, 06:34:30 AM
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I am here to earn some money. When I invest in some project, I do a research about it. Is it something that will improve todays life, will it ease some processes, is it inovative?. These are things that I look for. Also good team should be behind that. In any case it should have a story that I can understand and for which I think it will bring some improvements. If it looks like scam or something that is illegal, I am staying out of that. So it is about the money but something that I believe it has a strong use case and a future.
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October 24, 2017, 06:37:31 AM
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To be honest, I am in it for the money in every aspect Smiley

Well, I wouldnt join anything if it clearly was illegal and/or morally wrong stuff. But other than that its for the potential money Smiley

Ohw I get it, follow the money. I'd suggest that try to learn the technical aspect as well. I bet you would liquidate as fast as you can when your country declared bitcoin illegal. This project need smart people, not sheeps. Kindly reevaluate your position.
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October 24, 2017, 06:39:16 AM
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I love real world usage of some coins or projects. For example projects with real world workplace rent options were great. Or decentralized exchange projects like coss are great. But anyways I am still in it mostly for money & profits. Yes I support bitcoin more and will never stop holding it but truth is I am profit seeker.

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October 24, 2017, 06:41:30 AM
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All about the money in this time, everybody in competition to get the money as much as they can. Money can be determined as an important aspect in our life. Because if you are need everything and you must pay it with your money. Just like those are flipping their money through ico.

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October 24, 2017, 06:52:42 AM
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I really enjoy the financial benefits that comes with it but thats not why I do it. I want to be apart of something that has the potential to change the world. I believe that blockchain is the future and these new ICO's are offering you the chance to be apart of it.

When I buy into an ICO I have to believe in the concept/product. "Will this company make a difference and/or make our lives better and easier?" After that is made evident I really study the whitepaper to make sure there isn't anything sketchy.

Right now I am looking into a few ICO's involved with data security because I think it is becoming a significant issue in todays society. While looking I came across a project called Protex. They are offering a secure way of exchanging your data and keeping it safe. So if you want to start getting into altcoins I hope this helps. And if you wanted to look into Protex here is the link to there website.

http://www.protexproject.io/

->I highly suggest reading there whitepaper. It was done very well and it allows you to envision there platform becoming an actual solution
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October 24, 2017, 07:03:07 AM
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No i don't invested in the due to the money only, i was bought business, new innovation,  or something solutions on digital currency, investment in the ICOs are mean i am becoming an investor, it is based on the fundamental of projects and for long time investment, i don't think invested in ICOs it just for the money, i am thinking about the money just in trading altcoins activity ( short term investment in  trading is not on ICOs projects).
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October 24, 2017, 07:46:57 AM
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When I buy/sell/trade cryptocurrencies and ICOs, I'm all about the money.

BUT:

I'm in it for the long run. And that's where "ideology" or however you wanna call it comes into play. Because, a lot of ICO projects are cash grab schemes or outright scams, which hurt the reputation of blockchain technology. That is not sustainable in the long run and I try to avoid these.

For one, I don't want those dicks get rewarded for coming up with bullshit ideas, when their success indicates, that they could use their time and energy to contribute to something actually worthwhile. Give them money and they'll do it again. And again. And so on.

For another, I am not a good trader and see myself getting stuck in uncomfortable positions from time to time. If I do, I don't want to completely rely on some market manipulator to pump an already dead shitcoin, just so I can find a nice exit. Sitting on coins with active devs and a community that knows more than "when moon?" let's me sleep better.

Looking for good projects and avoiding pump and dump garbage actually has nothing to do with ideology, it's a matter of the timeframe you apply.
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October 24, 2017, 08:12:32 AM
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No i don't invested in the due to the money only, i was bought business, new innovation,  or something solutions on digital currency, investment in the ICOs are mean i am becoming an investor, it is based on the fundamental of projects and for long time investment, i don't think invested in ICOs it just for the money, i am thinking about the money just in trading altcoins activity ( short term investment in  trading is not on ICOs projects).

To be honest, I am collecting Bitcoin just for the benefit of the money generated. I'm not sure about the true value of Bitcoin, I just use the rising Bitcoin price to benefit from the investment.

Some people collect Bitcoin because they believe that Bitcoin will be the most influential currency for the future of the world. Some say that Bitcoin will be a tool of transactions that replace cash. But I do not think that far, now I just take advantage of the benefits that can be obtained from the Bitcoin price alone.
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No i don't invested in the due to the money only, i was bought business, new innovation,  or something solutions on digital currency, investment in the ICOs are mean i am becoming an investor, it is based on the fundamental of projects and for long time investment, i don't think invested in ICOs it just for the money, i am thinking about the money just in trading altcoins activity ( short term investment in  trading is not on ICOs projects).

To be honest, I am collecting Bitcoin just for the benefit of the money generated. I'm not sure about the true value of Bitcoin, I just use the rising Bitcoin price to benefit from the investment.

Some people collect Bitcoin because they believe that Bitcoin will be the most influential currency for the future of the world. Some say that Bitcoin will be a tool of transactions that replace cash. But I do not think that far, now I just take advantage of the benefits that can be obtained from the Bitcoin price alone.

Good and valid point. I'm pretty sure that a substantial majority only buys into Alts to earn more Bitcoin.

But that is Bitcoins one big thing, isn't it. Other currencies are about, I don't know, managing parking spots, decentralized Internet, white hat hacker markets and so on, but Bitcoin is, first and foremost, a value storage and transfer tool. That's all there is. Therefore, being in Bitcoin "just for the money" is exactly what it is about, not to mention, that you have to believe in Bitcoins success, at least in the short term. Otherwise, You wouldn't put your hard earned money at stake, right?
Even those seeing Bitcoin as the future while traditional monetary systems will eventually fail, are "in it for the money", because they are looking at protecting their savings in a way that they deem right.

TL;DR:
Being in for the money isn't a bad thing, because mostly, this IS about the money.

But:

On the other hand, I see a lot of use cases dismissed, because it is not viable to have a monetary system associated with them, such as private blockchains, really good digital identity solutions, social networks and so on.
I see a danger here of companies taking over these sectors, eventually cutting off private efforts (be it by patent trolling or just overpowering media presence). This would be a pity, because non-monetary blockchain technology is a huge field with immense potential. Sadly, the fact that there is no short-term gains to be made prevents it from entering the limelight.

This is where the blockchain community runs short and doesn't realize, that a huge sector remains uncharted. This is especially aggravating, since blockchain technology relies heavily on non-profit oriented projects; Linux as an OS is a common choice amongst blockchainers, for good reason. The same is true for the whole opensource spirit as a whole, which is absolutely essential for crypto and blockchain technology.

TL;DR (II):
By focussing on money making, the blockchain community misses a huge variety of blockchain applications, leaving the field to well-funded, established and profit driven companies.
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October 24, 2017, 05:14:58 PM
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Well... I guess that you have to believe in the project as otherwise it won't work if there is no benefiting usage for your very self

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I am a mix of both. Yes I look at crypto as an investment and a great way to gain. But I also like the ideas of crypto. With how currency currently is, I can see crypto being a huge change and improvement. Also crypto is nice because of the different sectors and services it can provide.

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October 24, 2017, 05:46:35 PM
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I am pretty new to ICO's but i go with a project that I think will do something good for society / business.

Right now this is just a way to broaden my horizons and i am not looking to gain millions. If i do it's a nice added bonus!

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October 24, 2017, 06:14:53 PM
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To be honest, I am in it for the money in every aspect Smiley

Well, I wouldnt join anything if it clearly was illegal and/or morally wrong stuff. But other than that its for the potential money Smiley

I am in the same boat.
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October 24, 2017, 06:20:05 PM
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When investing in ICOs, are there times when you invest for a high ROI but don't really care for the cause behind the project? Or do you only invest when you believe the project has a strong use case and feel personally attached?

I am new to BitcoinTalk but I am not new to investing. With all my investments, my criteria is whether I believe in the idea and whether it is something the world needs. In other words, if I don't feel personally invested in the idea, then I won't be investing my money.

For example, there is a new project called Protex and I invested in their pre-sale because I believe they are going to solve a major issue the entire world has. They are a data security company that will give the power of data back to the users instead of large corporations. All while essentially eliminate data breaches. With a platform that will positively affect everyday of my life, it is easy to be invested in them.

But I want to know your thoughts! In it just for the money?
I think it is very sweet you invest in the project which you find important for humanity. At least this is a good strategy, because if you don't gain profit in such a case you know you tried to make this world better. Does such strategy give you profit mostly?
I think most of people here invest in the project regardless to its idea and focusing on money. I invest in the coins I like for their projects but sometimes I also buy something just to earn some money while selling it afterwards.
To be honest, I am in it for the money in every aspect Smiley

Well, I wouldnt join anything if it clearly was illegal and/or morally wrong stuff. But other than that its for the potential money Smiley
Yeah, I agree about the morally wrong and illegal part. I never invest in projects which I myself find unappealing like currencies for paying webcams with young girls or used specifically to buy weapon, fake money or drugs. At these cases I don't care how profitable they might be, I just can't invest in them.

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October 24, 2017, 09:35:28 PM
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These are all great responses and too be honest, I didn't expect such a mix of reactions. I love hearing what everyone has to say. This is great  Smiley
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