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June 10, 2013, 02:34:38 PM
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In a nutshell: we designed and built an ASIC prototype for litecoin-mining but because of a thievery we need funding to proceed.

Who we are:
We are currently just three people having fun designing several hardware and software. For the last year we have been working on an ASIC device specialised on scrypt algorithm
and spending every cent and minute on this project.
We trusted in Litecoin since its very beginnings and knowing we couldn't compete in building Bitcoin ASICs any more we directly started working on Litecoin ASICs.
Since there are some clones like feathercoin lately getting popular using the same algorithm these devices would not be restricted to use with litecoin only.
To be honest we originally wanted to build ASIC devices for mining on our own but because of an very maddening incident we decided to "go public".
From now on we will be working on a device for selling to the community. A Website for preorders will come as soon as we are back in buisiness.

What did we achive yet:
We designed a board with one central computing chip supported by lots of high speed memory. This sounds quite simple but almost took a year to work out.
The board is currently connected to an ordinary PC via PCI-E extention and powered through external power supply.
We wrote our own mining software from scratch which still needs to be adapted to any hardware change and it has no official name jet.
The board is still quite large and not jet what you would call a "real ASIC". Power consumption is around 150W plus cooling and it spits out ~5000kH/s in average.
Of cause this is better than all available GPU based mining rigs but it is still no revolution jet.
This board was designed 2 months ago. In the mean time we went far ahead in design. Using new design and additionally shrinking the chip we expect to reduce power
consumption and heat production by at least a factor of ten for our next chip generation.
Im simulations we get a complete device using ~12W max.

What's our goal:
At the end we want to produce a device that could pay of itself roughtly within a few weeks asuming a worst case price of 2$/LTC.
The final type of device is still open for discussion. We planned to build a big multi chip rig but that might not be the kind of device for common selling.
It's up to your oppinion in which direction our further work is going. These are your options with hash estimation using todays state of design:
1. Internal PCI-e device to put into any ordinary PC. (~40 MH/s with a two slot large device)
2. External USB device powered through USB port (~3-5 MH/s)
3. External USB device powered through external supply (~mo limit on MH/s)
4. Standalone rig with optimal hash rate per size to connect directly to the network.
Here is a link to the poll:
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231199

What's our problem:
We are absolutely broke! Just two weeks ago we were four people. In March we found a chinese exchange student who seemed to be a very good programmer and invited him to join our project.
Lately he suddenly disappeared and took all our coin money which was around 100BTC and 7000LTC!!!
It turned out to be impossible to track him down because apparently he actually never was an exchange student and/or gave us a wrong name.
So here we are having a working ASIC prototype and lots of further concepts but no money to even pay for electricity.
And this is were your job begins: we need your donations to proceed.
PLEASE DON'T GET A WRONG IMPRESSION: All three of us are literally laboring fulltime and doing extra shifts any time possible right now.
But we still have some depts to pay of and this is were all our money is going right now.
As soon as we collected some backup money to pay for the next generation chip production we will proceed working on our ASIC device.
Any coin you are donating will speed things up.
As soon as possible we will again spend any available time in further hardware design.
Depending on your donations maybe one or two of us could start working fulltime in developement in the future.

Why should I donate:
1. You wan't to have scrypt ASICs available within this year.
We will keep working in our free time anyway, but we need to work a lot for money. Every tiny donation will buy us time and speed up the process. Do the math. Wink
2. The amount of your donation will pay off when we start shipping. Every coin donated will be counted twice in your orders.
We decided not to offer any preorders, we will only take your money when we are ready for shipping so this should be some kind of replacement for that.
Donators will be identified by senders address and publicly listed in a separate thread (link with further details comming soon).
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June 10, 2013, 02:39:30 PM
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Great
I'll definitely follow this

So here we are having a working ASIC prototype and lots of further concepts
Any videos of them working to share?

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June 10, 2013, 02:41:22 PM
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good luck and have fun with it - i'll stick with my ahh free power and GPU's thanks !

maybe when i have money to throw away i'll throw some at something like that .

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June 10, 2013, 02:41:45 PM
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Where is the proof of what you're talking about?  Wink
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June 10, 2013, 02:50:04 PM
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Isn't the fact that he has the word ASIC in his name proof enough?

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June 10, 2013, 02:51:53 PM
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Isn't the fact that he has the word ASIC in his name proof enough?

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June 10, 2013, 02:53:45 PM
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slightly better than a Nigerian Prince I suppose

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June 10, 2013, 02:55:08 PM
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You'll need to provide some sort of proof this project is real.
I think your under estimating the cost of ASIC development and production. It cost millions and millions.

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June 10, 2013, 02:56:31 PM
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You can't even secure your BTC but you have a working ASIC prototype? Seems legit.

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June 10, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
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In a nutshell: we designed and built an ASIC prototype for litecoin-mining but because of a thievery we need funding to proceed.

In a nutshell: scam.

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June 10, 2013, 03:01:09 PM
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slightly better than a Nigerian Prince I suppose


He couldn't wait to post this.  First post out of newbie detention...   Shocked


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He couldn't wait to post this.  First post out of newbie detention...   Shocked


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June 10, 2013, 03:05:55 PM
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In a nutshell: we designed and built an ASIC prototype for litecoin-mining but because of a thievery we need funding to proceed.

Who we are:
We are currently just three people having fun designing several hardware and software. For the last year we have been working on an ASIC device specialised on scrypt algorithm
and spending every cent and minute on this project.
We trusted in Litecoin since its very beginnings and knowing we couldn't compete in building Bitcoin ASICs any more we directly started working on Litecoin ASICs.
Since there are some clones like feathercoin lately getting popular using the same algorithm these devices would not be restricted to use with litecoin only.
To be honest we originally wanted to build ASIC devices for mining on our own but because of an very maddening incident we decided to "go public".
From now on we will be working on a device for selling to the community. A Website for preorders will come as soon as we are back in buisiness.

What did we achive yet:
We designed a board with one central computing chip supported by lots of high speed memory. This sounds quite simple but almost took a year to work out.
The board is currently connected to an ordinary PC via PCI-E extention and powered through external power supply.
We wrote our own mining software from scratch which still needs to be adapted to any hardware change and it has no official name jet.
The board is still quite large and not jet what you would call a "real ASIC". Power consumption is around 150W plus cooling and it spits out ~5000kH/s in average.
Of cause this is better than all available GPU based mining rigs but it is still no revolution jet.
This board was designed 2 months ago. In the mean time we went far ahead in design. Using new design and additionally shrinking the chip we expect to reduce power
consumption and heat production by at least a factor of ten for our next chip generation.
Im simulations we get a complete device using ~12W max.

What's our goal:
At the end we want to produce a device that could pay of itself roughtly within a few weeks asuming a worst case price of 2$/LTC.
The final type of device is still open for discussion. We planned to build a big multi chip rig but that might not be the kind of device for common selling.
It's up to your oppinion in which direction our further work is going. These are your options with hash estimation using todays state of design:
1. Internal PCI-e device to put into any ordinary PC. (~40 MH/s with a two slot large device)
2. External USB device powered through USB port (~3-5 MH/s)
3. External USB device powered through external supply (~mo limit on MH/s)
4. Standalone rig with optimal hash rate per size to connect directly to the network.
Here is a link to the survey:
http://freeonlinesurveys.com/app/showpoll.asp?qid=281143&sid=ywah

What's our problem:
We are absolutely broke! Just two weeks ago we were four people. In March we found a chinese exchange student who seemed to be a very good programmer and invited him to join our project.
Lately he suddenly disappeared and took all our coin money which was around 100BTC and 7000LTC!!!
It turned out to be impossible to track him down because apparently he actually never was an exchange student and/or gave us a wrong name.
So here we are having a working ASIC prototype and lots of further concepts but no money to even pay for electricity.
And this is were your job begins: we need your donations to proceed.
PLEASE DON'T GET A WRONG IMPRESSION: All three of us are literally laboring fulltime and doing extra shifts any time possible right now.
But we still have some depts to pay of and this is were all our money is going right now.
As soon as we collected some backup money to pay for the next generation chip production we will proceed working on our ASIC device.
Any coin you are donating will speed things up.
As soon as possible we will again spend any available time in further hardware design.
Depending on your donations maybe one or two of us could start working fulltime in developement in the future.

Why should I donate:
1. You wan't to have scrypt ASICs available within this year.
We will keep working in our free time anyway, but we need to work a lot for money. Every tiny donation will buy us time and speed up the process. Do the math. Wink
2. The amount of your donation will pay off when we start shipping. Every coin donated will be counted twice in your orders.
We decided not to offer any preorders, we will only take your money when we are ready for shipping so this should be some kind of replacement for that.
Donators will be identified by senders address and publicly listed in a separate thread (link with further details comming soon).


Go the route of ASICMiner and offer shares. That is the proven best route and you'll gain support to sell your hardware. If you don't set up a company similar to ASICminer and offer shares then the next group making ASICs will and you'll be put out of business.

The reason is people don't want to have to deal with the ASIC's arms race or mining when they can buy shares or pay someone else to mine for them.  If you set up an account on LTC global and set up an initial public officering similar to or exactly like how ASICMiner did it then you could become a 100 million dollar company too.

Good luck!
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June 10, 2013, 03:07:13 PM
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Interesting - who posts a request for donations without posting an address to donate to??
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June 10, 2013, 03:10:10 PM
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Interesting - who posts a request for donations without posting an address to donate to??

Even more interesting why would anyone donate to support someone else's greed? This ASIC does not benefit Litecoin nor would it give us anything to donate. I'm not against them trying to do it if they do it like ASICminer it could just work but if they do it like Butterfly labs then it's guaranteed to fail. The days of independent mining are coming to an end and will be over in 2014 when large rigs of ASICs and cloudhashing or ASICMiner type scenarios become the norm.
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June 10, 2013, 03:21:34 PM
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i knew i was not the only one with an ASIC scrypt miner

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=222962.new#new


i told you people this would happen

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June 10, 2013, 03:24:42 PM
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we designed and built an ASIC prototype for litecoin-mining but because of a thievery we need funding to proceed.

Sounds legit.

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June 10, 2013, 03:25:25 PM
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BFL knows how to do this, you can get them to help you

or maybe they'll buy you out?

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June 10, 2013, 03:26:51 PM
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Another garbage post.

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Another garbage post.

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