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July 17, 2013, 09:00:56 PM
Last edit: July 17, 2013, 09:32:55 PM by erk
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I can confirm seeing at least 150MH or so on epools when diff is low. There are definitely other large entities mining ARG, stopping multipoool really won't do much except in the low beats you'll get your coins twice as fast which will still be very unprofitable. It's not enough of a difference to sway anyone's decision.

Not sure why ARG has been the "example" coin out of all of this. I would re-iterate, if anything the fact that ARG can withstand such large diff swings is a real testament to the design of the coin!

Flound is just doing his pool justice, that is his JOB, he's not trying to destroy any coin in the process. If anything, slowing the rate of mining as he's done is making the current share of ARG worth more. Nobody is using ARG in time sensitive transactions so there's no real harm, and from what we've seen so far the block chain will never stall like CNC.

I would suggest though, Flound, maybe you would open up ARG and charge a mandatory fee instead of trying to get a bounty. Most of the premine has been accounted for and i think any remainder would just stand to top up the digibank of baritus.

Nonsense, I am often the only one mining epools and it's below 1MH/s  on high diff, the highest I have seen it was 78MH/s on low diff, and that occurred many minutes after muiltipool has already hopped to ARG. Individual miners hopping from Coinchoose are seldom as fast as a whole pool hopping.

I don't know if I most ARG miners would call loosing 4,000 blocks per day "withstanding a large diff swing", I certainly don't. and that's why many ARG miners are angry. arg.epools.org hasn't found a block in over 12hours, and probably wont before the next diff swing, so the two miners on there will have wasted about 12hours or more of electricity yet we represent about 6% of the global net hash so without us the diff would stay high for hours longer.

btw http://arg.scryptmining.com has way more than 70% of the ARG net hash currently, a couple of people from there should swing over to one of the other pools to balance it out a bit.



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July 18, 2013, 12:46:02 AM
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Individual miners hopping from Coinchoose are seldom as fast as a whole pool hopping.
You understand multipool isn't the only way to go about it right? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172121.0

I don't know if I most ARG miners would call loosing 4,000 blocks per day "withstanding a large diff swing", I certainly don't
I agree, it's far from an ideal situation, it is preferable to a situation like CNC however.

Somehow the base hashrate needs to be pushed up. There are just too many coins and not enough miners. Slowly coins will die off, my bet is on ARG being around a lot longer than most of the other coins due to its careful selection of parameters.
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July 18, 2013, 02:53:05 AM
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Hash rate increasing and stabilizing and the price is rising. Let's keep this going! Tomorrow I will make a new Argentum dev thread that I'll keep updated with services.

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July 18, 2013, 02:55:57 AM
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Hash rate increasing and stabilizing and the price is rising. Let's keep this going! Tomorrow I will make a new Argentum dev thread that I'll keep updated with services.

Yep Arg took a really nice move up in value today. Nice to see. Cheers for the update!  Smiley

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July 18, 2013, 02:58:27 AM
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I pumped ARG today. Now supporting. Let's see someone else thrash at those sells.
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July 18, 2013, 03:07:39 AM
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I pumped ARG today. Now supporting. Let's see someone else thrash at those sells.

It would be easier if they weren't removed..

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July 18, 2013, 06:40:14 AM
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This multipool bastard is really starting to piss me off. He is playing with my money and that's not funny anymore. If there is someone with experience performing DDoS, please contact me in private message.


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July 18, 2013, 06:46:28 AM
Last edit: July 18, 2013, 09:19:23 PM by erk
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This multipool bastard is really starting to piss me off. He is playing with my money and that's not funny anymore. If there is someone with experience performing DDoS, please contact me in private message.

Lol, no need to go that far. Just don't use the pool, there are other ways of pool hopping where you can fine tune the coins your interested in.


A better way to thwart the pool hoppers is to sell some ARG cheap on Cryptsy just before it's about to go low diff, to drive the profitability down, so the pool hoppers wont mine it, then you get more ARG as a mining reward which you can use to drive the price back up again Smiley
 
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July 18, 2013, 06:54:24 AM
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This multipool bastard is really starting to piss me off. He is playing with my money and that's not funny anymore. If there is someone with experience performing DDoS, please contact me in private message.



I support you 100%, but there is also alternative solution. They have much lover influence on DGC for example, because nw hash rate is much higher than their 400MH/s. So if we bring ARG network 400+ they will not have so devastating influence like few days backward. We have to support the coin by mining it. ARG is rare coin and it should have great value in the future, so why just sit and cry, let us do something about it. I already throw all my hash power to ARG in order to support coin and great team behind Baritus and other devs.

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July 18, 2013, 06:56:27 AM
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Our Argentum pool is available at https://arg.d2.cc with 0% fee!

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Our Argentum pool is available at https://arg.d2.cc with 0% fee!

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Have you checked using IE?
Why every founded block on your pool have value 2?
Mining is community driven effort so better for everybody if you place the answers here.

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Have you checked using IE?

No, I haven't checked IE.

Why every founded block on your pool have value 2?

That is a problem that I wish would have been pointed out sooner... Thanks for mentioning that.

The issue has been resolved. Please give me an ARG address via PM and I will send you some for bringing this to my attention.

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July 18, 2013, 07:47:42 AM
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This multipool bastard is really starting to piss me off. He is playing with my money and that's not funny anymore. If there is someone with experience performing DDoS, please contact me in private message.



I support you 100%, but there is also alternative solution. They have much lover influence on DGC for example, because nw hash rate is much higher than their 400MH/s. So if we bring ARG network 400+ they will not have so devastating influence like few days backward. We have to support the coin by mining it. ARG is rare coin and it should have great value in the future, so why just sit and cry, let us do something about it. I already throw all my hash power to ARG in order to support coin and great team behind Baritus and other devs.

I want to do something about it. I am mining DGC from beginning with occasional switching to ARG, becasuse i trust in both coins. But i can't even reasonably mine. Mining ARG at diff so high, can't even cover my expenses. Then this guy, raiding this coin, makes most miners just leave mining ARG which leaves network hashrate at 7MH/s. Then after diff adjustment raid again... This scenario repeats few times...The real damage is that many of the miners won't get back. Many of them do not have time or nerves to check every diff adjustment if network was left fucked up after bastards raid or if its at least for a bit worth mining. Its ok if network hashrate suddenly rises 10,20, 100 times and then drops, but not periodicaly. Personally i consider this an attack, because there is no concern from attacker if it is harmful for coin. He simply does not care. Luckily I have no problem put myself to the same moral level as an attacker and attack back with same or worse, when i see that he does not care.

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July 18, 2013, 07:51:11 AM
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This multipool bastard is really starting to piss me off. He is playing with my money and that's not funny anymore. If there is someone with experience performing DDoS, please contact me in private message.



I support you 100%, but there is also alternative solution. They have much lover influence on DGC for example, because nw hash rate is much higher than their 400MH/s. So if we bring ARG network 400+ they will not have so devastating influence like few days backward. We have to support the coin by mining it. ARG is rare coin and it should have great value in the future, so why just sit and cry, let us do something about it. I already throw all my hash power to ARG in order to support coin and great team behind Baritus and other devs.

I want to do something about it. I am mining DGC from beginning with occasional switching to ARG, becasuse i trust in both coins. But i can't even reasonably mine. Mining ARG at diff so high, can't even cover my expenses. Then this guy, raiding this coin, makes most miners just leave mining ARG which leaves network hashrate at 7MH/s. Then after diff adjustment raid again... This scenario repeats few times...The real damage is that many of the miners won't get back. Many of them do not have time or nerves to check every diff adjustment if network was left fucked up after bastards raid or if its at least for a bit worth mining. Its ok if network hashrate suddenly rises 10,20, 100 times and then drops, but not periodicaly. Personally i consider this an attack, because there is no concern from attacker if it is harmful for coin. He simply does not care. Luckily I have no problem put myself to the same moral level as an attacker and attack back with same or worse, when i see that he does not care.

They are again raiding ARG nw!!!We have to stop it somehow. What is worse this multipool guy just do not care!!!

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July 18, 2013, 08:01:16 AM
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We can join ARG mining at http://arg.epools.org. For now it is only pool who can raise above multipool hash rate.
I am against this kind of things but this have to be stopped immediately.

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July 18, 2013, 08:05:05 AM
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Lets see the havoc in which ARG will be left in approx 10 minutes

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July 18, 2013, 08:11:05 AM
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Lets see the havoc in which ARG will be left in approx 10 minutes

Agree.
This is just a proof that ARG should get more support from miners. It is not just a pump and dump coin.
Havoc result is difficulty 1.4974 in no time.
Everything happened so fast - multipool did not even get to their full capacity. What a brain-dead guy.

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July 18, 2013, 08:14:30 AM
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Lets see the havoc in which ARG will be left in approx 10 minutes


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July 18, 2013, 08:17:51 AM
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Lets see the havoc in which ARG will be left in approx 10 minutes

Agree.
This is just a proof that ARG should get more support from miners. It is not just a pump and dump coin.

Leaving network at this disproportionately diff isn't motivating for miners.

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Lets see the havoc in which ARG will be left in approx 10 minutes

Agree.
This is just a proof that ARG should get more support from miners. It is not just a pump and dump coin.

Leaving network at this disproportionately diff isn't motivating for miners.

You are right. I will continue to support ARG with half of my hash power whatever difficulty is. Hopefully and others will do the same.

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