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October 27, 2017, 05:08:51 PM
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1.Dark web was the first thing that came into my mind when I first heard the Bitcoin.
From what I've researched couple years ago, Bitcoin is the currency mostly used in the Dark Web for transactions like drugs, dark livestreams and hitmen. These are the few things I heard and read so far on the uses of Bitcoin in the dark web.

2. Actually both can buy legal and illegal things. It is just matter of convenience on how will you use it. Both still holds a value.

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October 27, 2017, 06:03:52 PM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

i think, the most important thing is  'what is your intention'. if your intention is to buy illegal things then no one can prevent you from doing it [if you use money or crypto like btc whatever] so the question is not about the currency, it is all about your intention.

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October 27, 2017, 09:10:45 PM
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This is such a funny question.

I personally don't buy anything illegal with bitcoin or fiat. But any currency will be used for evil. There's really no way to control that
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October 27, 2017, 11:26:34 PM
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Why would anyone want to admit on this platform that they do illegal things?  Cheesy

Regardless currency will always touch illegal substances/activity. There's probably a blockchain out there about to come out to prevent that anyways

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October 28, 2017, 03:45:12 AM
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Why would anyone want to admit on this platform that they do illegal things?  Cheesy

Regardless currency will always touch illegal substances/activity. There's probably a blockchain out there about to come out to prevent that anyways

exactamundo. value is require to purchase substances, illegal or not. doesnt matter if you are buying cotton candy or heroin. bitcoin is a store a value; a profitable one, but nothing more than that. so its unfair to conflate all illicit fundage with bitcoin. there is a shitton more fiat than there is btc, the entire crypto capitalization for that matter.

bitcoin is convenient. try to move more than 5k usd at a time from a bank. you will fill out form, they will ask you questions. and they will report to the government. if all that doesnt appeal to you, then bitcoin!
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October 28, 2017, 03:54:04 AM
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This question have its answer itself,
everyone who holds bitcoins and want to buy illigal things buys with bitcoin.
Reason is simple no one can trace you.
I once tried to buy in dark web but actually i was ripped over there.
So yeah think before you buy almost 99% asre sacms
That's simply not true, though.  You think you're totally safe from the cops when you use bitcoin?  That's a big LOL.

Hell no, I've never bought anything on the dark web.  I've never even used or seen what's there.  I'm aware that TOR exists, but that's the extent of my knowledge of such things.  Been down the drug use route before and have no plans for that again, or anything else that's illegal.  Bitcoin makes buying illegal things quicker, but I don't think it makes it any safer for the buyer.  You'd be much better off paying with cold, hard cash.  That's probably not possible on the internet, but you know what I'm saying.  Cash is way more anonymous than bitcoin.  The police would be able to trace you somehow, believe me.  Plus if you got the postal service involved, yeah.

Bitcoin gets an undeserved bad rap because of the dark marketeering, and it's unfortunate, but everyone in real life that I've mentioned bitcoin to, and got a response that they knew about it, it's always been connected in their minds to Silk Road or buying drugs in some manner.  It's too bad.

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October 28, 2017, 04:52:49 AM
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I have never used Bitcoin to buy illegal stuff and I never will. This isn't even coming from a moral standpoint. I simply am not interested in illegal stuff. There's also the fact that it's these very activities that paint Bitcoin in a bad light. Think of all the ransomware floating around the internet, with the hackers demanding Bitcoin to decrypt their files. You think people victimized by these will trust Bitcoin again? So yeah, I would rather not help in the further spread of that, especially because Bitcoin's image is slowly being liberated from that.

As for which is better, cash for personal transactions because they can't be traced, Bitcoin for online transactions, because they're somewhat anonymous. Really though, just don't do illegal stuff lol.

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October 28, 2017, 05:19:09 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)
1. No I never use bitcoin for any illegal purpose.
If any one brought or done any illegal thing I don't think that he will admit it here.
2. If you have any concern about legality when buying any thing with btc then you may convert it to flat then using the exchanger which are legal in your country.

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October 28, 2017, 06:59:49 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

i think, the most important thing is  'what is your intention'. if your intention is to buy illegal things then no one can prevent you from doing it [if you use money or crypto like btc whatever] so the question is not about the currency, it is all about your intention.


Right. If a person really wants to buy any illegal things, he will find a way and he will do it. Either bitcoin or fiat, it depends on that particular individual on what he is going to do with his money.

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October 28, 2017, 07:56:24 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh
2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

This discussion seems not really necessary or just part of black propaganda. Whatever the intention is I hope you find your answer. Bitcoin can be used to buy illegal stuff even fiat money or gold you can trade with that. So it’s not on bitcoin alone it is an open secret that buying illegal things is present since the world began with or w/out bitcoin.

I am certain that buying with bitcoin comes with anonymity but having mobile phones dealing with criminals is against the rule, so cash is more acceptable brand of bargaining.
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October 28, 2017, 08:51:06 AM
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In many posts on different forums in the media, on TV lately you can read about what bitcoin is used in illegal transactions. More often there are reports that bitcoin is a bubble. However, no conclusive evidence it is not. I think that is part of the company's banks aimed at discrediting bitcoin. To combat illegal activities there is a special service let them do their job and not blame all the sins of bitcoin.

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October 28, 2017, 11:20:00 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)


Sorry I Don't Use Bitcoin to buy any illegal Staff. Because I don't Need it.

Bitcoin is best way to buy legal things if your client or merchant  accept it or  where you want to buy. Every one don't accept it.

If you use bitcoin tht's time you so much benefit, Like its safe and secure, low fee and so much fast for transaction. But Your other payment method don't give this benefit. So think about it.     

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October 28, 2017, 03:37:27 PM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh
2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

This discussion seems not really necessary or just part of black propaganda. Whatever the intention is I hope you find your answer. Bitcoin can be used to buy illegal stuff even fiat money or gold you can trade with that. So it’s not on bitcoin alone it is an open secret that buying illegal things is present since the world began with or w/out bitcoin.

I am certain that buying with bitcoin comes with anonymity but having mobile phones dealing with criminals is against the rule, so cash is more acceptable brand of bargaining.
I can say more. The capitalization of the bitcoin is much smaller than the annual turnover of narcotics. Illicit arms trafficking is only possible with the use of Fiat. Why is no one talking about the fact that you need to ban dollars? This currency is used in most of the illegal transactions. Give me an example of illegal transaction for the sale of oil by Iran which is under sanctions. The prosecution of bitcoin all these are just examples of the information war.

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October 28, 2017, 05:30:39 PM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

Well I guess nobody in this thread will ever admit to using Bitcoins to buy illegal stuff. What is illegal, being subjective by nature, depends on the country of jurisdiction.

To buy legal things, you can use either Bitcoins or fiat. It is up to you. But be mindful of its current values before deciding to use either of them for you might be at the losing end if you misappropriated an amount that should have been used for investment.

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October 29, 2017, 12:37:31 PM
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Already such transaction is happening with cash. So we can't say that BTC will be responsible for such things. People who want to buy illegal stuff like drugs etc will buy it...no matter transaction is done with cash, gold, BTC or any other currency.
No doubt that BTC could give some ease to such transactions coz, unlike bank system BTC transaction is untraceable and anonymous.
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October 29, 2017, 11:23:38 PM
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No doubt that BTC could give some ease to such transactions coz, unlike bank system BTC transaction is untraceable and anonymous.
Bitcoin transactions offer people convenience and that's really it. I don't consider Bitcoin to be anonymous at all. If I need a certain level of anonymity when it comes to something illegal, I rather use something like Monero.

It doesn't offer 100% anonymity, but at least it's far better than what Bitcoin could ever offer me. For that reason I believe that Monero and some other similar privacy crypto's will slowly take over Bitcoin in deep web markets.

It's something that should have happened a long time ago, but it is what it is. It's likely because of the fact that altcoins still weren't really picking up in terms of adoption, but that's changing already ~ the entire crypto has evolved.

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October 30, 2017, 02:56:29 AM
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not sure why people would want to admit they use bitcoin to do illegal things lol. But those people should also know they're screwing it up for the rest of us
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October 30, 2017, 03:57:00 AM
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I am not using Bitcoin for "Dark Use" or illegal transactions. I am more of an investor and doing signature campaigns to get some extra money to spend in my expenses. But Bitcoin is actually being used for it. This is because the idea of Bitcoin with anonymous transactions is an opportunity for them. This is also why the government is trying to regulate Bitcoin. Some countries even banned it already and the same reason that shut down Bitcoin companies for trading.
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October 30, 2017, 04:51:07 AM
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I am not using Bitcoin for "Dark Use" or illegal transactions. I am more of an investor and doing signature campaigns to get some extra money to spend in my expenses. But Bitcoin is actually being used for it. This is because the idea of Bitcoin with anonymous transactions is an opportunity for them. This is also why the government is trying to regulate Bitcoin. Some countries even banned it already and the same reason that shut down Bitcoin companies for trading.

I guess it is not east to avoid people who would take opportunity in bitcoin either good or bad. It is really not easy to track where the money would go so their are really some exchange sites that are already requiring basic identity verification. Which is hard to understand for other users saying it is a hussle butf for me, that could also be a good thing to at least have records on who is using and getting money.

                                     
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October 30, 2017, 05:27:02 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)
I haven't decided to buy something with btc.
who knows today you buy something of $10 in 2btc and tomorrow you know that you can get that thing in just 1btc  Grin

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