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October 25, 2017, 09:08:09 PM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

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October 25, 2017, 09:11:27 PM
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This question have its answer itself,
everyone who holds bitcoins and want to buy illigal things buys with bitcoin.
Reason is simple no one can trace you.
I once tried to buy in dark web but actually i was ripped over there.
So yeah think before you buy almost 99% asre sacms
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October 26, 2017, 02:30:07 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

You can buy legal and illegal stuff with your own paper moneys/Fiat moneys and it is the same with Bitcoin as it is not an exemption to the rule of money, as long as you can spend valuable things in exchange of other things whether it is good or bad. It is just a matter of who will gonna use the money though and we all know the saying 'Money is the root of all evil' so meaning it is evil but if you use it in a good way then it is not. It just happened that Bitcoin is an international digital currency but it is still 'Money'.
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October 26, 2017, 03:32:32 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh 2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

Personally, I have never used Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency in the market to buy anything considered to be illegal or to avail of any services coming from the so-called dark web. In my opinion, although Bitcoin should not get the full blame as any fiat money can also be used for illegal transactions (they can be tracked but not all are brought to the arms of the law otherwise we will not have busy law enforcement agencies), the use of Bitcoin in dark web transactions is not practically helping the reputation of this digital currency. 

But then we have to understand that there is no way to stop anybody to avail of Bitcoin and use it for illegal transactions. this can be the reason why the government is now enforcing the KYC procedures so as to limit its illegal use. As time goes on, the government can be able to get availed of more advanced tracking system even if Bitcoin can be partly anonymous (not totally as they say).

Bitcoin enthusiast and supporters are encouraged to go above aboard as a way to help Bitcoin get a much better reputation.
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October 26, 2017, 05:18:04 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh
Nope, I don’t have any intention or interest for doing so. It is our first responsibility to use bitcoin in the best and the most legal way as possible. If I’m still using tor browser right now and always visiting .onion sites I would might be tempted to do that but those days of bad things is done.

After the silkroad raid with the government recover thousands of bitcoin. It’s more good to be not part of that community again.

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2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

Why compare when you can use both and nothing is better they’re both the best.
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October 26, 2017, 07:18:25 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

Do you mean illegal stuff ?

I have never used bitcoins to buy the illegal products and I think people should also make clean use of the bitcoins.

 
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October 26, 2017, 07:28:41 AM
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So far I haven't made an illegal purchase with bitcoin. Actually there's no different to buy illegal using bitcoin and money chas. As long the seller receive cryptocurrency.

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October 26, 2017, 08:34:37 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)
I never bought illegal goods using bitcoin, let alone to buy illegal staff, I did not think so far to use bitcoin. I just buy bitcoin in a natural way and do not want to get into trouble with what I've bought.

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October 26, 2017, 10:00:37 AM
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Calculations with illegal staff, the purchase of illegal goods most often occurs in cash. Stop spreading lies. Bankers and governments are trying to create public opinion about what bitcoin is used for illegal transactions. From your post it is clear that you never hired the staff. It is a fake.


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October 26, 2017, 10:06:46 AM
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Calculations with illegal staff, the purchase of illegal goods most often occurs in cash. Stop spreading lies. Bankers and governments are trying to create public opinion about what bitcoin is used for illegal transactions. From your post it is clear that you never hired the staff. It is a fake.

I think it is one of the main reason why some countries dont really want bitcoin in their country. Because it could be easily acquired by unknown entity. Wether it would be used as good or bad, people could easily get funds if they invested or even mined it. Some are even making affiliation services with in banks. Like in our place where there is a site that is connected to all banks but is not within the government.
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October 26, 2017, 10:07:53 AM
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This question have its answer itself,
everyone who holds bitcoins and want to buy illigal things buys with bitcoin.
Reason is simple no one can trace you.
I once tried to buy in dark web but actually i was ripped over there.
So yeah think before you buy almost 99% asre sacms

Don't kid yourself. Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous.
Anybody can see which unspent outputs are used as inputs by a new transaction, and which address got funded. By seeing which unspent outputs are combined in a transaction, addresses can be coupled to wallets.

Since a lot of exchanges started to use KYC regulations, and everybody and their mother are logging ip's, allmost all your exchange activity's can be traced back to you.

To make things worse, as soon as you buy a physical good using BTC, you have to enter a valid address, pointing directly at yourself.

Even mixers don't provide 100% safety, since you don't know who's operating them, and by the ever increasing field of data mining and blockchain analysis, to some point, it's even possible to join together mixer's inputs and outputs (or so it seems... I've never done this myself, but i've read that theoretically, it's possible).

As for the OP's question: i've bought some marihuana seeds and a knife using BTC... It's not really illegal in my country (they were both purchased on legal webshops, using my real name and address), but those are the most grey-area things i've ever bought with BTC

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October 26, 2017, 10:12:41 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

bit coin is not a currency. so we have to buy anything in the world with use of bit coin. who doing dark business like that people using bit coins. most of the country's not accept bit coin because reason is behind this. so that country government banned it in their country's. really most of the people using bit coin to buy illegal staff. because it has no tax and fee no need to calculations for the government. so most of the people interested for this site.
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October 26, 2017, 10:16:47 AM
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This question have its answer itself,
everyone who holds bitcoins and want to buy illigal things buys with bitcoin.
Reason is simple no one can trace you.
I once tried to buy in dark web but actually i was ripped over there.
So yeah think before you buy almost 99% asre sacms

Don't kid yourself. Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous.
Anybody can see which unspent outputs are used as inputs by a new transaction, and which address got funded. By seeing which unspent outputs are combined in a transaction, addresses can be coupled to wallets.

Since a lot of exchanges started to use KYC regulations, and everybody and their mother are logging ip's, allmost all your exchange activity's can be traced back to you.

To make things worse, as soon as you buy a physical good using BTC, you have to enter a valid address, pointing directly at yourself.

Even mixers don't provide 100% safety, since you don't know who's operating them, and by the ever increasing field of data mining and blockchain analysis, to some point, it's even possible to join together mixer's inputs and outputs (or so it seems... I've never done this myself, but i've read that theoretically, it's possible).

As for the OP's question: i've bought some marihuana seeds and a knife using BTC... It's not really illegal in my country (they were both purchased on legal webshops, using my real name and address), but those are the most grey-area things i've ever bought with BTC


I agree, bitcoin can be traced by IP, but I am not sure if people use anonymity network, whether he/she still can be traced?
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October 26, 2017, 12:19:49 PM
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Bitcoin was used for sell-buy operations about illegal in the most of countries things from the most beginning. If to talk about myself - I didn't buy even a Mary Jane with bitcoin or cashed out coins. I have other more important to me things to spend my payments. But I will not be surprised to hear that many of the forum users spend their payments for easy drugs.

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October 26, 2017, 12:23:39 PM
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if I have never bought a bitcoin myself I only use bitcoin as an investment and trading altcoin, and I prefer to use fiat money to buy goods because its value is stable, and if I buy goods using bitcoin with unstable value I worry when after paying with bitcoin suddenly the value of bitcoin rises, I think by paying with bitcoin I feel a loss with bitcoin price increase.

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October 26, 2017, 12:29:30 PM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

You can buy legal and illegal stuff with your own paper moneys/Fiat moneys and it is the same with Bitcoin as it is not an exemption to the rule of money, as long as you can spend valuable things in exchange of other things whether it is good or bad. It is just a matter of who will gonna use the money though and we all know the saying 'Money is the root of all evil' so meaning it is evil but if you use it in a good way then it is not. It just happened that Bitcoin is an international digital currency but it is still 'Money'.

It actually depends on you, whether you use it to buy illegal or legal stuff. Although, I agree with many people that if you'll buy something illegal then better use bitcoins because you less tractability. However, if what you're pertaining to by 'illegal' are those government sanctions stuff, I doubt that you can buy just like that. Also, those people who deal those materials often would not want to deal using other means than cash. In terms of legal items, then it's up to you situation, if you have a lot of bitcoin holding and the establishment accepts bitcoin purchases and transactions, then by all means use them. However, if you feel it would be better to use money, then go for it as well.

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October 26, 2017, 01:02:26 PM
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 bitcoin can be used to both ways but I prefer to buy legal things using it now unlike the dark past of bitcoin itself..
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October 26, 2017, 02:28:18 PM
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If the government is keen to identify a man who uses bitcoin in illegal business they will find it without problems. Modern technologies allow to do it easily. Bitcoin anonymous only indirectly. It seems to me that you can't blame bitcoin for all the ills. The responsibility of law enforcement agencies to find criminals. They get paid for it. To cover up their inactivity with bitcoin is wrong.
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October 26, 2017, 02:57:12 PM
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Bitcoin provide anonymous transaction so it can't be trace easily but police still able to track down although they require more resource to find the suspect.
Because of this reason, my government still not legalize bitcoin in order to protect people from corruptor / money laundry etc
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October 26, 2017, 03:41:40 PM
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Bitcoin provide anonymous transaction so it can't be trace easily but police still able to track down although they require more resource to find the suspect.
Because of this reason, my government still not legalize bitcoin in order to protect people from corruptor / money laundry etc
They can able to track down the transaction on where those funds go and moved but knowing the identity on such wallet would really be difficult to trace up no matter how you have on those resources that you do mention.
Negative aspects of bitcoin is always there because this is really a good tool for those criminals or people who do have really dirty intentions on making it on illegal stuffs.Dark use would be always there and criminals will surely switch because they know bitcoin is far more better than on those bank or fiat transactions.

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