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October 26, 2017, 09:13:33 PM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

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October 26, 2017, 09:34:26 PM
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Interesting.

All of the valuations that I see like this are based on Bitcoin capturing a certain percentage of the gold market. Long term I think its definitely possible given a 5-10% swing in market share away from gold. The other factor that noone seems to factor in is the youth effect. There are tons of kids now growing up who are learning about crypto.

Part of the reason that superhero movies do so well now is because they were marketed to kids who are now income earners in the economy. In 25-40 years if all kids are putting part of their pension in Bitcoin - its definitely a likely scenario.

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October 26, 2017, 09:54:36 PM
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Yes of course that this is very interesting to read and watch, i see tons of this predictions all over the day, and most of them are exactly the same, they all say that the price will be X thousand dollars by the end of X year, and this is a proccess that never ends, because those speculations will always exists.
But 25k by 2022 is reasonable, it is not so far away from now, i mean, it is only an increase of 5 from the actual value, and we did more than x6 during this year.

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October 26, 2017, 09:59:18 PM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

Even if we don't reach that amount half of that would be fantastic and more than double of what it is now.
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October 26, 2017, 10:02:57 PM
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Yes of course that this is very interesting to read and watch, i see tons of this predictions all over the day, and most of them are exactly the same, they all say that the price will be X thousand dollars by the end of X year, and this is a proccess that never ends, because those speculations will always exists.
But 25k by 2022 is reasonable, it is not so far away from now, i mean, it is only an increase of 5 from the actual value, and we did more than x6 during this year.


At some point the law of large numbers comes into play. It's much easier to go from 1 to 5 (a 5x increase) than it is to go from 5 to 25 (also a 5x increase). At this point, bitcoin is already worth $100 billion. Exactly 6 months ago today, it was worth 20.6 billion. So it's true we've seen about a 5x increase in about 6 months, but another 5x increase from this level will require a lot more than we've gone through this year, and more than bitcoin has gone through in its lifetime total. It seems like it took mania to get to this level. But mania is not a sustaining force over the long term in my opinion.

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October 26, 2017, 10:36:24 PM
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very interesting indeed and it really all depends on the amount of users for Metcalfe’s Law to take affect.
i have never heard of Metcalfe’s Law but a quick google and visit to wikipedia sorted that out.
it states:


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five can make 10 connections,
and twelve can make 66 connections.


I know the report was just a prediction but there is something or some work behind it - hopefully

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October 26, 2017, 10:55:43 PM
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Yeah - its a network effect that basically means the value of the network gets multiplied by itself with each new user. I don't think it strictly applies to currency given that not all people can buy the same level of Bitcoin - but if larger players get involved (like banks) then that number could grow very quickly.
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October 26, 2017, 11:23:48 PM
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Yes I watch the video of it by Sarah Silverstein in the Business Insider. I can say that it really make some sense that it will reach of that price value and Tom Lee really said that bitcoin in that law is like a social media that whenever many would use bitcoin the more it will increase its value that's somehow we see nowadays and maybe even not go to that time span bitcoin would reach at that price if bitcoin would be in rapid use. I hope that prediction would be come to true so soon.
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October 27, 2017, 12:24:34 AM
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Yes I watch the video of it by Sarah Silverstein in the Business Insider. I can say that it really make some sense that it will reach of that price value and Tom Lee really said that bitcoin in that law is like a social media that whenever many would use bitcoin the more it will increase its value that's somehow we see nowadays and maybe even not go to that time span bitcoin would reach at that price if bitcoin would be in rapid use. I hope that prediction would be come to true so soon.

We could also observe that it is not just civilians are trying to adapt bitcoin. Businessmen and even  some governments are into bitcoin. I won't be shocked if the news would reach the local scenes. Because right now in my locality is not yet aware of bitcoin, that means it is not yet enough to be in the local highlights. The news also compair it to oil demand, and it is now the new goods that people are investing just to mine it.
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October 27, 2017, 12:37:20 AM
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This is considered as a prediction until bitcoin hit that amount. Yes it is indeed possible for the coin to be on that amount but the question is how long. on how market goes right now it may just take a few years and 2022 is a good year to predict with. Bitcoin's price merely depends on the demand from people who wants to have that coins. There are only a maximum of 21 million coins to be circulating the market and there are 7.6 billion people who might use it. So the earlier that more people gets into bitcoin the sooner the price will go high.
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October 27, 2017, 01:21:38 AM
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interesting topic, you got my attention op, and i think $25k is not possible for 2020 prediction even there are soon to massive dump after the fork.i think the success of bitcoin is not going to and end, and the predictions for the future of bitcoin is 50% true, not rapidly increasing but enough to increase every moment.
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October 27, 2017, 01:51:03 AM
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It is a long wait for that, but have possibilities to happen. Maybe that time, 80% are using crypto currencies and more establishment are accepting this as payment. Everything that happen in the future are totally  because we made it and of course the fully support of the community towards bitcoin and the crypto world.
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October 27, 2017, 01:54:16 AM
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One of the things I really like about this is that at least there's some kind of reasonable analysis to back up the prediction, unlike a lot of predictions I see that are just hopeful random numbers thrown around.  At the rate bitcoin has been growing, it seems like $25k might happen sooner, but of course it will continue to get harder to grow the larger it is.
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October 27, 2017, 01:58:29 AM
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For me the price of 25k dollars is possible to happen but I hope we dont know when it happen. This year is 2017 and we have 5 years to reach that and I think the  percentage to happen that price is 50 percent only because for me possible price of bitcoin at 2022 is 15k upto 20k only. Because bitcoin reach the price of 10k dollars is very hard to it to increase so we need more time..

 
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October 27, 2017, 02:17:05 AM
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Anyway this is just a technical analysis of the predictions  of bitcoin reaching $25,000 in 2022
Personally  I believed that the price of bitcoin is not only determined by technical analysis but also fundamentals such as high impact news, hardfork (segWit) therefore there are many of such before that year and this can make or mar the price of bitcoin but let us be optimistic that the speculations  will come to pass.

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October 27, 2017, 02:36:42 AM
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Technical analysis is not on my portfolio but predictions can vary on specific events in those years from now 2017 - 2022. What will happen? Is it legal to all country? Businesses are accepting bitcoin?. Those questions if answered between those years, I’m not exaggerating but 25000$ is at least at minimum. The risk can be lessened if those kind itf thing can be handled and favored cryptocurrency.
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October 27, 2017, 02:39:37 AM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

yeah it could happen, because if you look at recording bitcoin graphics from 2009 to 2017 now bitcoin its price more expensive, the main factor is high market demand but bitcoin availability is very limited and limited. in this world still few know about transactions and profit bitcoin. if bitcoin is getting known and everyone wants to have bitcoin bacon bitcoin will be very expensive and more expensive than current.
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October 27, 2017, 03:00:42 AM
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Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Why do cryptos have to displace gold for this to happen?  What if some really big investors/institutions (e.g., banks, hedge funds, etc.) get involved and start buying?  Tens or hundreds of millions of dollars of direct investment could take us a long way given the limited supply of bitcoins and how much people are hoarding them.
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October 27, 2017, 03:07:16 AM
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Well if this trend keep happening, every is possible but for somehow, it's too good to be true ,right ?
For me personally, I keep my bitcoin until next 4 year and try to sell some bits for the profit !

Who knows I become the next millionaire if bitcoin's demand still popular
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We can not say anything in the future, but bitcoin can reach $ 25,000 by 2022 but that is a difficult challenge.  Grin Grin Grin
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October 27, 2017, 03:18:24 AM
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Intuitively,  I don't trust this prediction.   Financial analysts often have big fancy mathematical 
models that, in the end, turn out to be very wrong.  And it's not that I'm hoping they're wrong.   
I'm hoping this model is right or even underestimates bitcoin's growth.  But I don't put much 
stock in TA, never have, and it's been wrong too many times to rely on...just like predicting the 
weather. 

2022 isn't that far away.  Maybe OP will be kind enough to bump this in 5 years.

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October 27, 2017, 03:29:54 AM
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Theres a big chance that bitcoin will hit 25000$ by 2022, if more and more countries will be using bitcoin as one of thier payment options, and if this icos will be neutralized  investors will go back again to bitcoin. 
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October 27, 2017, 03:33:22 AM
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this news maybe possible, because today the bitcoin value is already high, and hopefully in 2022 bitcoin will hit 25000$ and or higher. And that is the very good thing to happen ever!

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October 27, 2017, 03:46:31 AM
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We can not say anything in the future, but bitcoin can reach $ 25,000 by 2022 but that is a difficult challenge.  Grin Grin Grin
Difficult but possible last 2 years bitcoin was only $350~ and now we didn't expect bitcoin could reach up to a price like this within 2 years. 5 years is a long time the next halving would've taken place already that'll help bump up the price. Who knows we could reach the price earlier than 2022. If the price became stable at the $5k mark the average increase of the price every year should be at least $4k

Maybe OP will be kind enough to bump this in 5 years.
This thread would already be buried in a few months or could be locked by a mod.


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October 27, 2017, 04:53:43 AM
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We are still almost 5 years away from 2022 and i can say that this is very possible because as you can observe that the price of bitcoin goes up to $1,000 to $2,000 to $4,000 and now it is more than $5,000 and that is a very fast growth in bitcoin so i think that it is very possible to see that price of bitcoin is reaching up to $25,000 because 5 years is still a long time.
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October 27, 2017, 04:54:28 AM
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This is a VERY conservative estimate...
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October 27, 2017, 04:58:22 AM
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Intuitively,  I don't trust this prediction.   Financial analysts often have big fancy mathematical 
models that, in the end, turn out to be very wrong. 
That's true, but given the track record of BTC $25k in 5 years isn't completely impossible. We have seen a rise of over $5000 in this year itself, if this same trend continues for next years then $25k won't be much far.  
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October 27, 2017, 05:04:06 AM
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Good to easy. It can be possible by bitcoin. Price of bitcoin is high now. We can say bitcoin has a bright future. The price of it is not stable and for this it is increasing rapidly. 25000$ in 2022 is possible for Bitcoin.
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October 27, 2017, 05:37:11 AM
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Good to easy. It can be possible by bitcoin. Price of bitcoin is high now. We can say bitcoin has a bright future. The price of it is not stable and for this it is increasing rapidly. 25000$ in 2022 is possible for Bitcoin.

$25000 is a big money we can reach in bitcoin and i am sure that we can reach it in future. with the many benefits from bitcoin, i think many people will interesting and using bitcoin in the future. if we see in one year ago or two year ago, bitcoin price is not too high and still people is not interesting because they don't know bitcoin at all. but now after the price is increase significant, i think many people is trying to have bitcoin in their wallet and i think 2022, bitcoin price can reach more than that price.
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October 27, 2017, 06:34:25 AM
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All the predictions are useless, anyone saying 10$ or 100000$ have similar chances to be proven wrong.
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October 27, 2017, 06:45:10 AM
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It's just a prediction it will or will not be true. Investing in Bitcoins is highly risky as it will make you rich or poor and it all depends on your investment technique but I also believe that more risk = more return and less risk = less return. There are many people who predict bitcoin price but one should not believe in them. Do your own research and then invest.   
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October 27, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
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I don’t want to say this is wrong or it is right either. But I’m hoping it will come true. At this year 2017 there is still 5 years before that day/year. When it comes to cryptocurrency everything is possible. 25000$ is a big price and now we are still at 5900$ - 6000$ there is a long way to go and many more challenges to conquer.
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October 27, 2017, 06:57:36 AM
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Its really interesting to see bitcoin price move accordance with some law on TA. I think this is attainable because right now 2017 the price is pegged at $6000. And we still have like 5 years and a lot can happened in those 5 years. Maybe at the end of 2018 the price has already doubled to $12000. So this reports is very much possible the way I see it and its very realistic as compare to those predictions like John McAfee and others bullish investors. At least this is back up by some TA analysis and not by someone who has a big mouth and just based it on his own assumptions. I wanna see this happened in 2022. We can all go back 5 years from now and see if this prediction did actually happened in the future.

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October 27, 2017, 07:13:35 AM
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Metcalfe’s Law : if this law is true then I’m donating this guy 100 BTC,  Smiley


I mean you put forth everything based on the maths perspective and there seems bigger chances of bitcoin going to that much heights. But there is also very little glitch in this journey that no one can predict. What if there are sudden drops in user base due to legal authorities pressure or may be because of no more trust on bitcoin due to legal restriction on its use. We saw what happen after china ban, we saw the downward movement too. So though I believe in your speculation completely but there is always little downside to everything. Now we have to watch what happens with that one.

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If mass adoption start by 2020, there is likely chances to cross that price.
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Yeah its a forecast that is nearly true.No one's really know how much bitcoin would go.5 years from now $25000 that means an increase of $5000/year.If this would be possible then i would invest atleast 1 btc.This is the advantage of cryptocurrency its votality is really unknown thats why many of us predicted this price
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I also read that an investor named Trace Mayer posted on his social media that Bitcoin will increase over $27,000 by February 2018 based on the 200 day moving average.

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Intuitively,  I don't trust this prediction.   Financial analysts often have big fancy mathematical 
models that, in the end, turn out to be very wrong.  And it's not that I'm hoping they're wrong.   
I'm hoping this model is right or even underestimates bitcoin's growth.  But I don't put much 
stock in TA, never have, and it's been wrong too many times to rely on...just like predicting the 
weather. 

2022 isn't that far away.  Maybe OP will be kind enough to bump this in 5 years.


Yeah i do think so. As what as the others also might say, theres a lot that can happen, maybe yes it is possible that its price might reach to that, but i was also wondering if this will still exist or even usable for the next 2 years if theres no hindrances that will occur it might be possible.
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I think this prediction is more realistic than those prediction that Bitcon will go up to 1million dollar a piece.  With the current rate of adoption and price increase, I think Bitcoin can be able to reach this price even before that year.  Just look how fast Bitcoin reach $6k after dipping to sub $3000.

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October 27, 2017, 09:58:11 AM
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Theres a big chance that bitcoin will hit 25000$ by 2022, if more and more countries will be using bitcoin as one of thier payment options, and if this icos will be neutralized  investors will go back again to bitcoin. 

Everybody would then be happy if that will be the case though there would be those who might feel they can not join the Bitcoin party anymore because the value has already skyrocketed beyond the moon (though this assumption is wrong as anybody can buy what he can afford). Now, I love reading positive predictions about Bitcoin but of course we should not be carried away with them as frankly speaking nobody can be sure of what the future may bring. The year 2022 is actually not far...just around 5 years but along the way I am sure that Bitcoin can be meeting all the oppositions, ban, regulations, criticisms, manipulations, speculations and all the things in between I failed to mention. Of course, we are expecting that Bitcoin van be able survive them all.
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Intuitively,  I don't trust this prediction.   Financial analysts often have big fancy mathematical
models that, in the end, turn out to be very wrong.  And it's not that I'm hoping they're wrong.   
I'm hoping this model is right or even underestimates bitcoin's growth.  But I don't put much
stock in TA, never have, and it's been wrong too many times to rely on...just like predicting the
weather.

2022 isn't that far away.  Maybe OP will be kind enough to bump this in 5 years.



Because financial analyst based their predictions on the performance of the market and the company that they are predicting. Bitcoin don't have any of those what it has is just the demand from the people who wants to own at least a piece of this coins. And yes 2015 is just 5 years from today but that is long enough for a $19,000 bump on bitcoin's price. it just made almost $5000 bump on it's price since January 2017 that was just 9 months ago.

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October 27, 2017, 12:07:51 PM
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Amazing report and if that’s true then we should start feeling up the wallets with bitcoin. It won’t matter if I buy the bitcoin today at the rate of 6K or even at 10k if the price rises to that much this year end. I mean 25k just in five years is the quickest way to get rich man! I don’t have much understanding of your graphs and those laws but what I see as regular investor that there is hope for me to get rich quick in short period of time by just holding sufficient bitcoin in my wallet. Wow I mean that’s the power of bitcoin I guess and it’s like knowing our own future and financial status in the year 2022. Hope this settles well.

 
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October 27, 2017, 12:19:46 PM
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Hope so this all prediction in coming years become true and help the investors who had invested their hard earned money with the anticipation that some day it will sky rocket with this price. Due to this we have hard fork happening and those coins which are created are not having much value as people mostly going for investing in btc itself.

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October 27, 2017, 12:38:17 PM
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This could be even higher but that is a fair estimate. It depends on how long MSM can go on with spreading misinformation. Luckily the forces of nature are turning in good's favor.
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October 27, 2017, 01:14:46 PM
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Possible but we can never really tell. Even just for this year, I did not expect this kind of rise for 2017. Looking at the price charts still amazes me and just over a few months, the price increase has been outstanding. It’s hard to predict the price and we can only speculate but hopefully what OP has said will come true. If the trend of bitcoin continues to go on like this, then it is likely for that to happen and for the price to be that high come 2022

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October 27, 2017, 03:12:31 PM
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Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Why do cryptos have to displace gold for this to happen?  What if some really big investors/institutions (e.g., banks, hedge funds, etc.) get involved and start buying?  Tens or hundreds of millions of dollars of direct investment could take us a long way given the limited supply of bitcoins and how much people are hoarding them.

It is Tom Lee's premise, so I can only hazard a guess on why he's predicating the price target on this occurrence. As you propose, hundreds of millions of dollars of direct investment could take us a long way, but in my view (and I'm guessing in Tom Lee's view), big investors and institutions are only putting hundreds of millions of dollars of direct investment into bitcoin to occupy the role that gold previously held in their investment portfolios and to serve as a digital store of value. So while I would agree that it could happen, I would say it only would happen because it had become a digital store of value for institutional investors, and I am skeptical about that because all it is right now is a speculative commodity.

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October 27, 2017, 03:54:49 PM
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Possible but we can never really tell. Even just for this year, I did not expect this kind of rise for 2017. Looking at the price charts still amazes me and just over a few months, the price increase has been outstanding. It’s hard to predict the price and we can only speculate but hopefully what OP has said will come true. If the trend of bitcoin continues to go on like this, then it is likely for that to happen and for the price to be that high come 2022
Right.Same with my views.Reaching $25000 by 2022 may be possible for bitcoin if it will continue to create a rapid price increase.Let's just put it this way.Increasing $5000 per year couldn't be much harder for bitcoin just like what's happening if you trace the price chart way back few years ago.So with this,bitcoin price is more likely to hit $25000-$30000 by the year 2022 if granted.
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October 27, 2017, 05:47:23 PM
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I do understand people projection is taking into consideration bitcoin halving wich can make bitcoin price to hit the 10000 if not bigger values, a lot people are joining and investing into bitcoin, milions dollars coming into bitcoin, but for this price be achieved i believe we will need atleast 2-4 big countries to legalize bitcoin, soo this cenario would became a reality even sooner.
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October 27, 2017, 06:21:39 PM
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The five times raise in five years I think it is really possible if bitcoin will continue with same temps. The demand for crypto is growing, especially to bitcoin. It's short amount and high demand will let it to go very high.
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October 27, 2017, 10:43:02 PM
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Metcalfe’s Law : if this law is true then I’m donating this guy 100 BTC,  Smiley


I mean you put forth everything based on the maths perspective and there seems bigger chances of bitcoin going to that much heights. But there is also very little glitch in this journey that no one can predict. What if there are sudden drops in user base due to legal authorities pressure or may be because of no more trust on bitcoin due to legal restriction on its use. We saw what happen after china ban, we saw the downward movement too. So though I believe in your speculation completely but there is always little downside to everything. Now we have to watch what happens with that one.

For sure this is something to consider, but it wouldn't prove Metcalfe's Law wrong. The premise is that even taking into account attrition of the user base, there is such a significantly small portion of people using bitcoin out of the total potential that the user base is likely to continue to see rapid growth that will more than make up for any losses due to government actions.

Take it with a grain of salt though. First, you have to accept that bitcoin is not merely correlated with Metcalfe's Law, but the price rise is caused by it, and then further accept that the user base and the price will continue to grow. As I said earlier, I find the Metcalfe aspect interesting, but even given that, I doubt the ultimate conclusion of a $25,000 bitcoin. (I also thought $5,000 was impossible, so do with that what you will.)

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October 27, 2017, 11:06:39 PM
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The five times raise in five years I think it is really possible if bitcoin will continue with same temps. The demand for crypto is growing, especially to bitcoin. It's short amount and high demand will let it to go very high.
There are many prediction of bitcoin price in the upcoming years. But lets take a note into consideration that this might gonna happen on year 2022. Im positive it will as long there is a continuous demand in bitcoin it might happen.
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Bitcoin for 25 000$ by 2022 is quiet possible in my opinion. Lately dimon said that Bitcoin will cos even 100 000$ (i think he was not joking).
So the 25 000$ is really possible. We have currently 6 000$ so stay tuned.
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Hope to reach this price by that time. But I think this is possible but we don't know when will it be.

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October 28, 2017, 12:30:27 AM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

It is crazy to say that the bitcoin will reach $ 25,000 by 2022. It is impossible. First, we should consider its viability. How long can a bitcoin last? We are in a bitcoin bubble, and when will it explode? It's hard to talk about it.
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October 28, 2017, 12:39:12 AM
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Hope so this all prediction in coming years become true and help the investors who had invested their hard earned money with the anticipation that some day it will sky rocket with this price. Due to this we have hard fork happening and those coins which are created are not having much value as people mostly going for investing in btc itself.

That is right anything can happen, and i think that if we view the increasing number of bitcoin users, i am sure that bitcoin can cross that level very easily, no doubt about it.  i think that very soon bitcoin price is going to hit 8000$ and then after 5 years that is not looking such a big task for the price of bitcoin. As it will depend on the  interest of the people and i think people are currently too much interested in bitcoin and want to invest more and more money in bitcoin.
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

It is crazy to say that the bitcoin will reach $ 25,000 by 2022. It is impossible. First, we should consider its viability. How long can a bitcoin last? We are in a bitcoin bubble, and when will it explode? It's hard to talk about it.


How can you say it is impossible.
It is very much possible.
Mining reward is going to decrease.
If you consider the growth rate of bitcoin it may go higher than 25000$.
See bitcoin was around 1000$ in 2017 now it touched 6000$.
That means it went 6x.
And the demand is incredibly increasing day by day.
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How can you say it is impossible.
It is very much possible.
Mining reward is going to decrease.
If you consider the growth rate of bitcoin it may go higher than 25000$.
See bitcoin was around 1000$ in 2017 now it touched 6000$.
That means it went 6x.
And the demand is incredibly increasing day by day.

But i think Bitcoin now is really on bubble scale. We cant say what will happend at future, but as my opinion, bitcoin price increasing more and more then stop when they hit $10.000. Why? Because the BTC real value is not over $10.000( Included in mining fee) and speculators will kick them down Cheesy

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October 28, 2017, 03:45:50 AM
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Sound's good!
Yes many studies and prediction now that bitcoin increase it's value to 25,000 USD within 5 years. Base on the news and the statement of strategist Tom Lee said that he sees bitcoin surging another 600% in 5 years. He also predict that the value of bit will bubble to 25,000 USD in 2022.
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October 28, 2017, 05:20:48 AM
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Even John Mcafee make a bet that it will reach $500k in just 3 years if not he will eat himself on the national TV based on his statements. But this is the most accurate prediction for the price of btc to land in $25k in 2022 due to its demand and trend worldwide, we must buy btc before it's too late again because the price will surely increase to 100%-200% in just a matter of months or years.

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Even John Mcafee make a bet that it will reach $500k in just 3 years if not he will eat himself on the national TV based on his statements. But this is the most accurate prediction for the price of btc to land in $25k in 2022 due to its demand and trend worldwide, we must buy btc before it's too late again because the price will surely increase to 100%-200% in just a matter of months or years.
That's why they will not let him get up like this, imagine how many people then want to sell it and that there will be a correctly unpredictable collapse. People will not become millionaires, do not fly in illusions.
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
I would like that too. Looking at the overall trend and impact of Bitcoin, this is possible. However, we can not be sure that it will happen. I hope more sec people invest in Bitcoin as well as countries around the world accept its existence.
$ 25,000 need amount of long time to get Bitcoin.

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25K may be reached by 2020 (or even sooner). I am saying this because till now Bitcoin has over-performed on most of its predictions. A few months back, hardly anyone thought that BTC would breach the $5,000 per coin level. Many of the experts were saying that it will be achieved by 2020. But we have even breached the 6K mark now.

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October 28, 2017, 07:24:35 AM
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That would be interesting if that happens. It would actually be five times higher than its value today. I think this prediction is over optimistic without considering the other competition with regards to cryptocurrency ecosystem.

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I see lots of prediction about the bitcoin possible value through years but reaching $25000 would not be probable i guess. I think the government in all country would not likely that to happen specially those 1st world country. I think, yes , that it could reach $25000 but not on year 2022 , it's to early for bitcoin to reach $25000 by that year.BUT , if it happens i would be glad and work harder for that.
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full of promising, well bitcoin in 2022 , 25 000$ is good and better to the holders of it Smiley it is possible right, many people are not expected that the bitcoin crypto will be in this stage and the price of it is like huge, it can happen but i am not guarantee it.
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full of promising, well bitcoin in 2022 , 25 000$ is good and better to the holders of it Smiley it is possible right, many people are not expected that the bitcoin crypto will be in this stage and the price of it is like huge, it can happen but i am not guarantee it.

You will not be sure that this value is achievable in the 2022 because sathoshi nakamoto speculates the bitcoin value to be touch 10k usd in 2025 but this is huge value expectation than satoshi thinks. If that happens even I am also really happy with the bitcoin in my wallet since the value will reached to peak value again.

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25K may be reached by 2020 (or even sooner). I am saying this because till now Bitcoin has over-performed on most of its predictions. A few months back, hardly anyone thought that BTC would breach the $5,000 per coin level. Many of the experts were saying that it will be achieved by 2020. But we have even breached the 6K mark now.

true! prediction of the price by the year 2020 will always changing at the moment pass by, and i also think that this price which is $25k per bitcoin is sooner to achieve, because of its unstoppable demand and price hike in the market. imagine that the experts before, are trying hard to predict the price of this bitcoin for many years to reach that price prediction, but its happen early than they predict. so $25k in the year 2020 is soon to happen before that year mentioned (2020).
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Seeing the meteoric rise it had this year and the number of people that joined the ecosystem, I'm seeing well over 25k by 2022. 25k would not surprise me by 2020. Granted that's on the off chance that the scalability debate will have been over by then, no more copies with huge marketcaps. Bitcoin has to become trustworthy to reach 1 trillion. For me trustworthiness has been on a downslide for some time now.
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statistics show a great evaluation and i hope it happens in 2022,and it could happen if  major part of transactions in world become digital,but currently price is between 5 and 6000$ so a price of 25000$ is a huge jump from its current value so there still a doubt that this would really happen,what i think is price can reach 15000$ mark easily and yes some of you will say it was nothing few years back but now see its price ,its because when something new come into market so or people become aware of it,suddenly their is a huge increase because of its usage and but after some time it slows down a bit ,so covering such a wide gap would be difficult.

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October 28, 2017, 10:42:28 AM
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This sounds very good but this date is light years from now and till then we will witness many speculations and manipulations of price. Fud will be better organized, hatters will find new arguments. I'm only not sure if this is going to be a spike or steady nice growth. Now prices changes 300$ daily, when reaches 10k we could see 1000$ daily changing of a price. This will open whole new possibilities for large investors.  Wink
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October 28, 2017, 11:17:22 AM
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we cannot hide the truth that bitcoin has a high risk, but its all up to us (bitcoin holder) if we continue support bitcoin or not. even there are more "funny" predictions about the price of bitcoin for the next next years, we cant hide too the truth that bitcoin become successful from the moment that what it is before. prediction and speculation are totally annoying, why we not stop seeking for the negative effects of bitcoin instead of seeking of what will happen next?
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October 28, 2017, 11:35:48 AM
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Hope so this all prediction in coming years become true and help the investors who had invested their hard earned money with the anticipation that some day it will sky rocket with this price. Due to this we have hard fork happening and those coins which are created are not having much value as people mostly going for investing in btc itself.

I don’t know why, but people loves speculation a lot. We are still a long way from 2022, and everyone is already speculating price rates they are not even sure of at all. It would have been better if he said that price will more than $10,000 before 2022. By the way, I don’t even like the increase, would prefer it goes down to $250 and then skyrocket back to $5000.
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So you can buy in cheap? Tongue

I think the prediction is quite accurate.
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October 28, 2017, 02:32:06 PM
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If by 2022 the price of bitcoin is $25,000,it would be a great news. Many people would leave their current job to join the bitcoin forum if it really happens. Besides it will be a strong and big competition among traders.
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Hope so this all prediction in coming years become true and help the investors who had invested their hard earned money with the anticipation that some day it will sky rocket with this price. Due to this we have hard fork happening and those coins which are created are not having much value as people mostly going for investing in btc itself.

I don’t know why, but people loves speculation a lot. We are still a long way from 2022, and everyone is already speculating price rates they are not even sure of at all. It would have been better if he said that price will more than $10,000 before 2022. By the way, I don’t even like the increase, would prefer it goes down to $250 and then skyrocket back to $5000.
From the point of view of arithmetic your desire worse. But I agree with you. Wonder why everyone is waiting for prices to rise. Who took advantage of the last promotion? That sold all their coins when the price has risen to $ 6,100? Now everyone is waiting for $ 10,000. Then will wait for $ 20,000. And so on to infinity. Only few traders can do of these spikes money. The majority of users just keeps the coins for the future.
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October 28, 2017, 03:57:03 PM
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Intuitively,  I don't trust this prediction.   Financial analysts often have big fancy mathematical
models that, in the end, turn out to be very wrong.  And it's not that I'm hoping they're wrong.   
I'm hoping this model is right or even underestimates bitcoin's growth.  But I don't put much
stock in TA, never have, and it's been wrong too many times to rely on...just like predicting the
weather.

2022 isn't that far away.  Maybe OP will be kind enough to bump this in 5 years.



Because financial analyst based their predictions on the performance of the market and the company that they are predicting. Bitcoin don't have any of those what it has is just the demand from the people who wants to own at least a piece of this coins. And yes 2015 is just 5 years from today but that is long enough for a $19,000 bump on bitcoin's price. it just made almost $5000 bump on it's price since January 2017 that was just 9 months ago.
If we look at the graph of market price of bitcoin since the time it was introduced, I don’t think that there is hardly any issue for bitcoin to reach up to this much of market price and that too by the end of 2022. Moreover, the way bitcoin’s market price is constantly increasing there are very bright chances of this thing to happen in the coming days. I am very much hopeful that bitcoin will achieve this milestone.
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This sounds very good but this date is light years from now and till then we will witness many speculations and manipulations of price. Fud will be better organized, hatters will find new arguments. I'm only not sure if this is going to be a spike or steady nice growth. Now prices changes 300$ daily, when reaches 10k we could see 1000$ daily changing of a price. This will open whole new possibilities for large investors.  Wink
It is all about the determination and the value of the bitcoin because now all the people the people are aware of the bitcoin, the income of the bitcoin is the best thing and it is about to hold and the organization of the bitcoin will give you the hollow price, it is the time for the bitcoin and the value of the bitcoin will get more organized if the high level people will buy the bitcoin and will hold it till the growth end.
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October 29, 2017, 08:10:26 AM
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That would be interesting if that happens. It would actually be five times higher than its value today. I think this prediction is over optimistic without considering the other competition with regards to cryptocurrency ecosystem.
Bitcoin  can be $ 25,000 in 2022, but if it was broken into 10 pieces then it could even be $ 100. Bitcoin cash, Bitcoin gold etc etc

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October 29, 2017, 08:23:54 AM
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Where bitcoin will reach will solely depend on innovations and community acceptance. There are a lot of problems to be solved and as the solutions keep arriving and the network keeps getting robust, the price will keep rising. A 4-5K increase for each of the following
1. Solve micro transaction problem
2. Solve Transaction speed and scaling issue.
3. Solve the miner vs user ambiguity.

Thats an easy +15K in the coming 1-2 years itself. I say by 2020 beginning, well be looking at 25k
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October 29, 2017, 08:27:31 AM
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It is an interesting article from fundstrat to read. Even though it is an over-optimistic article (in my opinion), i dont believe bitcoins will rise to that level in 5 years, yet i am hoping it, hehe. But still, it is more like a dream, and dreams do come true, but some don't. With the rise or bitcoin prices, it is normal for people that lives and works in economic world to make a prediction about it. But we need to do our research too about it. I am afraid it is more like a bait for people to buy more bitcoin, so there are more money involved in this cryptocurrencies system. I am not saying this is a scam or what, what i want to say is, if you want to invest on bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, do your research and plan well, choose your cyptocurrencies well, dont drop all your load on an investment, just invest what you can afford to lose. We all here want to be success with bitcoin, but we need to stay focus and alert too about good and bad things that might happen.
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October 29, 2017, 08:47:19 AM
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That would be interesting if that happens. It would actually be five times higher than its value today. I think this prediction is over optimistic without considering the other competition with regards to cryptocurrency ecosystem.
If we talk realistically, then this thing is nearly impossible. Yet you never know what will happen in the future as future is unpredictable. This is really a difficult thing to see and that too in such a short period of time. Market price of bitcoin will for sure increase very much by the end of 2022 but saying this that it will reach up to 25000$ is something nearly impossible and hard to see.
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That would be interesting if that happens. It would actually be five times higher than its value today. I think this prediction is over optimistic without considering the other competition with regards to cryptocurrency ecosystem.
If we talk realistically, then this thing is nearly impossible. Yet you never know what will happen in the future as future is unpredictable. This is really a difficult thing to see and that too in such a short period of time. Market price of bitcoin will for sure increase very much by the end of 2022 but saying this that it will reach up to 25000$ is something nearly impossible and hard to see.

The thing is, people are also saying at the beginning of this year that 5k is nearly impossible as well this 2017. That bitcoin can't go tbat high in sucb a short time. Well guess what, we've consistently breached 6k and we still have 2 months to go this year. I'm not saying it's going to happen but i'm belieiving it can

 
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October 30, 2017, 04:49:34 AM
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This sounds very good but this date is light years from now and till then we will witness many speculations and manipulations of price. Fud will be better organized, hatters will find new arguments. I'm only not sure if this is going to be a spike or steady nice growth. Now prices changes 300$ daily, when reaches 10k we could see 1000$ daily changing of a price. This will open whole new possibilities for large investors.  Wink
You have made a very good point here. According to me, we are going to see more spikes at least until all the bitcoin are mined out or bought by investors. In the coming years, the demand will be really high and at that time the overall supply would be even less than the present one which will definitely be the reason behind the rate that you told here. Bitcoin will touch this target of 25k dollars within next five years for sure.
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October 30, 2017, 05:27:12 AM
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2022 is about 5 years from now which is really short if you ask me. But at the same time, its a period long enough for bigger things to happen but that mark of $2500 per btc, is what I don't see happening in all sincerity but if something massive should happen like governments adopting the blockchain for its use, there is direct use of bitcoin for transactions, there is need to travel around the world with bitcoin in your wallet and wuld suffice then $25000 will only be a moderate speculation.
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2022 is about 5 years from now which is really short if you ask me. But at the same time, its a period long enough for bigger things to happen but that mark of $2500 per btc, is what I don't see happening in all sincerity but if something massive should happen like governments adopting the blockchain for its use, there is direct use of bitcoin for transactions, there is need to travel around the world with bitcoin in your wallet and wuld suffice then $25000 will only be a moderate speculation.

It's not that short for me, that's already enough time for bitcoin to be fueled and will be reaching $25,000. This can be tough for bitcoin but make this year as an example, there's so many movement for bitcoin's price that happened.

Since January, everyone is expecting $1,000 to happen and it did happened and where now close to November the price is at $6,000 so that's a big percentage of it's growth.

Bitcoin is on mainstream now so every people that has skeptical ideas about it will be starting to invest in learning first before putting money on it.

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From my point of view it would be very hard to see bitcoin price at only $25k by 2022. I mean guys..there are 4 years and a bit until '22. BTC price raised by 6x-7x only this year! What will happen in 4 years?? Nobody knows..but from the historical charts I see it at over $100,000.
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That would be interesting if that happens. It would actually be five times higher than its value today. I think this prediction is over optimistic without considering the other competition with regards to cryptocurrency ecosystem.
If we talk realistically, then this thing is nearly impossible. Yet you never know what will happen in the future as future is unpredictable. This is really a difficult thing to see and that too in such a short period of time. Market price of bitcoin will for sure increase very much by the end of 2022 but saying this that it will reach up to 25000$ is something nearly impossible and hard to see.

The thing is, people are also saying at the beginning of this year that 5k is nearly impossible as well this 2017. That bitcoin can't go tbat high in sucb a short time. Well guess what, we've consistently breached 6k and we still have 2 months to go this year. I'm not saying it's going to happen but i'm belieiving it can

For now we could just only say it is too impossible, and even in the past they have said it was really impossible it would reach that worth we have right now, but as you can see it did happen right before our eyes, and yet there ar so many speculations to what might the future of bitcoin will be, some have said it will pump up, some also said it will drop, no one is certain about those predictions but it has a great potential to get high price.

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October 30, 2017, 07:30:36 AM
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From my point of view it would be very hard to see bitcoin price at only $25k by 2022. I mean guys..there are 4 years and a bit until '22. BTC price raised by 6x-7x only this year! What will happen in 4 years?? Nobody knows..but from the historical charts I see it at over $100,000.
There are many speculations about bitcoin to happen for the upcoming years. These days bitcoin price is increasing its soaring high. Im glad if that would happen by 2022, because we couldnt actually tell yet the actual price of bitcoin.
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I think that the price of $25,000 by 2022 is so close to happen even before 2022 because the market of bitcoin is getting more active than before and the people around the world are now investing in bitcoin because they already notice the huge pump in the price and because of the huge growth of bitcoin which is very attractive for an investor.

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October 30, 2017, 07:45:15 AM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

hopefully this can be a reality if bitcoin can reach $ 25,000 then the development of digital currency is better and can beat assets such as gold or silver, I can not wait to enjoy the increase in bitcoin prices.
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This sounds very good but this date is light years from now and till then we will witness many speculations and manipulations of price. Fud will be better organized, hatters will find new arguments. I'm only not sure if this is going to be a spike or steady nice growth. Now prices changes 300$ daily, when reaches 10k we could see 1000$ daily changing of a price. This will open whole new possibilities for large investors.  Wink
It is all about the determination and the value of the bitcoin because now all the people the people are aware of the bitcoin, the income of the bitcoin is the best thing and it is about to hold and the organization of the bitcoin will give you the hollow price, it is the time for the bitcoin and the value of the bitcoin will get more organized if the high level people will buy the bitcoin and will hold it till the growth end.
If we look at the graph of market price of bitcoin since the time it was introduced, then we’ll notice this thing that the market price of bitcoin has increased significantly. Even then, it is not at all possible for bitcoin to reach up to this much limit and that in such a short span of time. We can experience a huge increase in the market price of bitcoin but even then it cannot have this much of market value.
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This prediction may seem to be optimistic,but if we analyze the previous rise in bitcoin price from just $650 to $5,700 now,it also seems realistic figure to be achieved by 2022.Five years more and each year,if bitcoin price just doubles,then even $25,000 price could be achieved,

What would make it a little bit difficult is that frequent hard forks which would be occur in future.But One thing is for sure that bitcoin is going to change fortunes of many people through out the world.

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October 30, 2017, 10:04:15 AM
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Nobody would have thought 2 years ago, that BTC would be over $6k now! So yes, I'm sure that it's possible!

but will it happen?? We'll see ;-)

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October 30, 2017, 12:49:43 PM
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This prediction may seem to be optimistic,but if we analyze the previous rise in bitcoin price from just $650 to $5,700 now,it also seems realistic figure to be achieved by 2022.Five years more and each year,if bitcoin price just doubles,then even $25,000 price could be achieved,

What would make it a little bit difficult is that frequent hard forks which would be occur in future.But One thing is for sure that bitcoin is going to change fortunes of many people through out the world.

Just too good to be true, we all want the best for bitcoin but we shouldn't over exaggerate its potentials so that we don't get carried away and invest blindly because many may be disappointed if they find out that bitcoin is unable to reach that value by 2022.
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This prediction may seem to be optimistic,but if we analyze the previous rise in bitcoin price from just $650 to $5,700 now,it also seems realistic figure to be achieved by 2022.Five years more and each year,if bitcoin price just doubles,then even $25,000 price could be achieved,

What would make it a little bit difficult is that frequent hard forks which would be occur in future.But One thing is for sure that bitcoin is going to change fortunes of many people through out the world.

I agree that there has been a troubling trend recently in the number of hard forks that are being done to create extra coins.  However, my guess is that most of them will end up being more or less dismissed as bitcoins cash and gold have been.  Forks like the upcoming segwit2x certainly have more potential to cause problems, but those obviously don't occur nearly as often.
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October 30, 2017, 03:53:06 PM
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There are so many bitcoin predictions around.
They go from zero to a few hunder thousand dollars. And nearly all claim to have some mathematical background.
Personally I do not believe any of them. I do not think it is possible to include all variables into those equasions. Nobody can tell what fork or hack will occure next year.
In the end only time will tellwhere we are heading.

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It is definitely possible to touch that figure even much before 2022 if we could maintain the growth rate but as we know, such massive growth always carries a huge correction with it, I think realistically it would touch $25K around 2022 organically and float in the range of anything between $25K $35K. Yes, it is extremely difficult and irrational to predict something about Bitcoin post 5 years but we can always use the current trend to forecast the future possibilities of it.
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This prediction may seem to be optimistic,but if we analyze the previous rise in bitcoin price from just $650 to $5,700 now,it also seems realistic figure to be achieved by 2022.Five years more and each year,if bitcoin price just doubles,then even $25,000 price could be achieved,

What would make it a little bit difficult is that frequent hard forks which would be occur in future.But One thing is for sure that bitcoin is going to change fortunes of many people through out the world.

Yes, this prediction is somehow true but we can't really predict the future for this outcome. How can it be possible that bitcoin, that no one can control can achieve that huge limit? If we think hard, it can't be possible to happen but the reality is there. So yes, I will believe on bitcoin that the prediction is coming true
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October 31, 2017, 07:39:15 AM
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Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Why do cryptos have to displace gold for this to happen?  What if some really big investors/institutions (e.g., banks, hedge funds, etc.) get involved and start buying?  Tens or hundreds of millions of dollars of direct investment could take us a long way given the limited supply of bitcoins and how much people are hoarding them.
It is already happening with the bitcoin. At this stage bitcoin is new blooming market for the hedge fund and banks. As far hedge funds are concerned most famous are:
* Winklevoss ( this actually helped bitcoin price from 800 dollars to 1300 dollars last year)
* Bitcoin Investment Trust
* Global Advisors GABI fund
* Polychain
etc etc.

Leading investor from hedge fund Bill Miller has 30% investment in the bitcoin. And with the result obtained so far this will result in getting more and more amount from the investment portfolio in the bitcoin over the year.  Then there are other investor who will board the train on bitcoin investment. There being no restrictions on the bitcoin trade anything could happen that is drastic rise and drastic drop is bound to happen.
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October 31, 2017, 08:06:17 AM
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This sounds very good but this date is light years from now and till then we will witness many speculations and manipulations of price. Fud will be better organized, hatters will find new arguments. I'm only not sure if this is going to be a spike or steady nice growth. Now prices changes 300$ daily, when reaches 10k we could see 1000$ daily changing of a price. This will open whole new possibilities for large investors.  Wink
You have made a very good point here. According to me, we are going to see more spikes at least until all the bitcoin are mined out or bought by investors. In the coming years, the demand will be really high and at that time the overall supply would be even less than the present one which will definitely be the reason behind the rate that you told here. Bitcoin will touch this target of 25k dollars within next five years for sure.
That actually depends, if the demands increase, bitcoin must overcome scaling issues aswell, the transaction might even double or triple to what bitcoin has now currently.
With this sluggish speed of confirmation, I actually don't expect that much.
Just hoping that in the upcoming years, atleast, something usefull will be added to bitcoin system, and blockchain have found the solution to its scaling problem.

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October 31, 2017, 08:33:10 AM
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That would be interesting if that happens. It would actually be five times higher than its value today. I think this prediction is over optimistic without considering the other competition with regards to cryptocurrency ecosystem.
If we talk realistically, then this thing is nearly impossible. Yet you never know what will happen in the future as future is unpredictable. This is really a difficult thing to see and that too in such a short period of time. Market price of bitcoin will for sure increase very much by the end of 2022 but saying this that it will reach up to 25000$ is something nearly impossible and hard to see.
Indeed we don’t know anything about future but I don’t think so it is that hard for bitcoin to achieve this value. The way bitcoin is becoming popular day by day and increasing in prices continuously, there are maximum chances that bitcoin is going at least reach 20,000 dollars after five years. It depends on the market of the bitcoin and if customers increase drastically, it may reach 25,000 dollars as well.
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Just imagine that really happens,  what a wonderful life. We can be a very rich man if we own bitcoin in 2022. Additionally, if the report informs the fact,  then we can keep bitcoins since today and sell them in 2022. I wish that happens as soon as possible.
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Just imagine that really happens,  what a wonderful life. We can be a very rich man if we own bitcoin in 2022. Additionally, if the report informs the fact,  then we can keep bitcoins since today and sell them in 2022. I wish that happens as soon as possible.
Even I hold 1 bitcoin and wait for that moment that's really something going to help me with my finances. I've got some businesses to deal with but with bitcoin waiting for this day that will be the greatest day of my life.

Since I can't earn that much with the other businesses that I established for a short amount of time and think of it that I have to focus and monitor them from time to time.

But with bitcoin, you'll just going to it this way buy and forget it until the price reaches on this rate.

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I'm a bit frightened by the all consuming optimism of many of the people here. The model is interesting, but does it scale? There are a lot of models that are only accurate at smaller scales, and then drift off into nowhere. Bitcoin has reached big numbers now, but how will the model hold at 500B value? Anyways, I hope you all don't get your hopes up too much. At least do some more research and develop some reasons for why you think 25k is a reasonable price for bitcoin.

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The OP's ideal looks crazy but i think it's can be real in the future. When everybody is chasing for bitcoin and the amount of Bitcoin is limited which is less day by day . So It's easy to understand why price of Bitcoin raising insane in the future.
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I'm a bit frightened by the all consuming optimism of many of the people here. The model is interesting, but does it scale? There are a lot of models that are only accurate at smaller scales, and then drift off into nowhere. Bitcoin has reached big numbers now, but how will the model hold at 500B value? Anyways, I hope you all don't get your hopes up too much. At least do some more research and develop some reasons for why you think 25k is a reasonable price for bitcoin.
This is a good point, and something that concerns me, as well. The prevailing sentiment around here seems to be that you can't go wrong by buying bitcoin at any price level, which of course has held so far.  But yes, at some point, the price can't keep scaling.  Personally, while I've been skeptical of the price increase and optimism this year, such optimism mostly seems to be the sentiment of those in the bitcoin community.  There's still plenty of skepticism by large financial institutions and governments, which means there's still potential for more growth.
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That would be interesting if that happens. It would actually be five times higher than its value today. I think this prediction is over optimistic without considering the other competition with regards to cryptocurrency ecosystem.
If we talk realistically, then this thing is nearly impossible. Yet you never know what will happen in the future as future is unpredictable. This is really a difficult thing to see and that too in such a short period of time. Market price of bitcoin will for sure increase very much by the end of 2022 but saying this that it will reach up to 25000$ is something nearly impossible and hard to see.
For me it is not impossible because the bitcoin is the best thing to invest and to buy for the profit if it is giving the profit for all the people. Bitcoin is the different currency to hold and to get the profit because all the people are now begin in the bitcoin and they will buy the bitcoin and the income of the bitcoin will be more than this, the bitcoin price will be more than $25000 in the coming years.

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The OP's ideal looks crazy but i think it's can be real in the future. When everybody is chasing for bitcoin and the amount of Bitcoin is limited which is less day by day . So It's easy to understand why price of Bitcoin raising insane in the future.

To be honest, anything is possible and I think that we should not discard any idea or prediction in this regard. Especially in the case of the wild market such as cryptocurrencies.

We have predictions right from $1000 to $500,000 till 2020 and everyone has their own point of view. We must realize the fact that no one can predict the accurate future, all we can do is to predict the possibilities considering the available data and since Bitcoin is a global phenomenon, we have multiple possibilities and views for the same.
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I'm a bit frightened by the all consuming optimism of many of the people here. The model is interesting, but does it scale? There are a lot of models that are only accurate at smaller scales, and then drift off into nowhere. Bitcoin has reached big numbers now, but how will the model hold at 500B value? Anyways, I hope you all don't get your hopes up too much. At least do some more research and develop some reasons for why you think 25k is a reasonable price for bitcoin.
This is a good point, and something that concerns me, as well. The prevailing sentiment around here seems to be that you can't go wrong by buying bitcoin at any price level, which of course has held so far.  But yes, at some point, the price can't keep scaling.  Personally, while I've been skeptical of the price increase and optimism this year, such optimism mostly seems to be the sentiment of those in the bitcoin community.  There's still plenty of skepticism by large financial institutions and governments, which means there's still potential for more growth.
You only have hard efforts to put and then wait for good time. After placing your part, you’re only left with good hope. Always keeping good and positive thinking for your results. Same here with bitcoin, you always think bigger and bigger for the thing that you want most in your life. Bitcoin is one of them and so, it’s casual if we, sometimes, go out of the box to think more for it.
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I already read about this. wall street predicted that the price of bitcoin will goes up to $25000 5 years from now and that's 2022 I'm actually excited to go in 2022 because I already holding my coins for a long term since the price of bitcoin goes to $4000 and now we already reach the $7000 barrier.
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Where bitcoin will reach will solely depend on innovations and community acceptance. There are a lot of problems to be solved and as the solutions keep arriving and the network keeps getting robust, the price will keep rising. A 4-5K increase for each of the following
1. Solve micro transaction problem
2. Solve Transaction speed and scaling issue.
3. Solve the miner vs user ambiguity.

Thats an easy +15K in the coming 1-2 years itself. I say by 2020 beginning, well be looking at 25k

All of these things are easier said than done. SegWit2x was an attempt to solve scaling issues, and look what a terribly fiasco that turned into before they finally scrapped it. The failure of SegWit2x actually gives a boost to Bitcoin Cash in my book. Both attempted to solve scalability and network congestion, and both went about it in different ways. I originally thought SegWit2x was the way to go, but the way they tried to force it through and threaten the system with chaos really undermines the attempt. Now Bitcoin Cash is the remaining alt with a scalability solution, and it's probably not a coincidence that it's up a good chunk on the failure of SegWit2x. (To be fair, a lot of alts are up as money flows back out of btc right now.)

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Where bitcoin will reach will solely depend on innovations and community acceptance. There are a lot of problems to be solved and as the solutions keep arriving and the network keeps getting robust, the price will keep rising. A 4-5K increase for each of the following
1. Solve micro transaction problem
2. Solve Transaction speed and scaling issue.
3. Solve the miner vs user ambiguity.

Thats an easy +15K in the coming 1-2 years itself. I say by 2020 beginning, well be looking at 25k

All of these things are easier said than done. SegWit2x was an attempt to solve scaling issues, and look what a terribly fiasco that turned into before they finally scrapped it

Yes, it was a fiasco, but as you said, they went about it in the wrong way.  A good scaling solution is needed, but the whole community needs to be on board with it.

The failure of SegWit2x actually gives a boost to Bitcoin Cash in my book. Both attempted to solve scalability and network congestion, and both went about it in different ways. I originally thought SegWit2x was the way to go, but the way they tried to force it through and threaten the system with chaos really undermines the attempt. Now Bitcoin Cash is the remaining alt with a scalability solution, and it's probably not a coincidence that it's up a good chunk on the failure of SegWit2x. (To be fair, a lot of alts are up as money flows back out of btc right now.)

Almost all of the recent rise in the price of bitcoin cash happened before segwit2x was canceled.  I think there was a lot of interest in South Korea, or something like that.  Although I'll admit that it's possible that people were thinking that segwit2x was going to fail and thus started buying bitcoin cash.
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This maybe possible considering the volume of users it has gained during the years and this shows the increase of price x6 in just only this year how much more if more people knows about bitcoin. Mostly people in my country dont know anything about bitcoin or in general population only 4 out of ten knows about bitcoin and most of them are youths. We can probably achieve $25000 through sharing the knowledge about crypto's.

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November 10, 2017, 01:28:27 AM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
Yes i believe that after a many years bitcoin will going increase rapidly so we need to keep this until it bump to the highest value in 2020  predict that bitcoin will go to $20000 this is holy so have a encourage yo earn bitcoin and hold this.
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November 10, 2017, 02:49:03 AM
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This maybe possible considering the volume of users it has gained during the years and this shows the increase of price x6 in just only this year how much more if more people knows about bitcoin. Mostly people in my country dont know anything about bitcoin or in general population only 4 out of ten knows about bitcoin and most of them are youths. We can probably achieve $25000 through sharing the knowledge about crypto's.

This study is not entirely impossible knowing that in just a year, bitcoin has yet again increase 10 times compared to its price last year. In our country, maybe less than 1% of the population knows about it and if it keeps getting the attention of the media may it be in papers, television or social media then price would continue to go upwards due to high demand. Of course there would be some downward trend from time to time but if there would be no event that would make the people still choose bitcoin over others then $25,000 may be reach earlier than 2022 and that would be good for all of us.

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November 10, 2017, 03:13:47 AM
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The percent to happen the price become 25k doplars is high and for sure you will earn profit if that happen so it's better if you have extra money now invest that in bitcoin to make more profit in the future.  More bitcoin that you have more chances to earn profit . Todsy price is 7500 dollars and possible the price before end of this year is 10k dollars and we have few years to reach 25k dollars.
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Bitcoin is the black swan and the predictions are ungrateful since they can fail miserably. But, if the institutional money starts to flow in and existing problems are addressed in a satisfactory way, it can go even higher. Check for example last 20 years of Berkshire Hathaway A share value http://www.morningstar.com/stocks/XNYS/BRK.A/quote.html
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I think that it will even go to 20k in 2018, because bitcoin has the potential we have seen that it had risen 6k in a year this means that bitcoin can also do this again.

So i think that in 2019 bitcoin will surely have hitted 20k at least.
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Bitcoin is the black swan and the predictions are ungrateful since they can fail miserably. But, if the institutional money starts to flow in and existing problems are addressed in a satisfactory way, it can go even higher. Check for example last 20 years of Berkshire Hathaway A share value http://www.morningstar.com/stocks/XNYS/BRK.A/quote.html


Berkshire is a huge conglomerate that owns hundreds of businesses though. That's a crucial difference. Berkshire's stock reflects an ownership stake in those businesses, and thus a legal right to the profits. So stocks have inherent value because they represent something that can be turned into cash. This is the opposite of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is only worth what everyone thinks it is worth, and if the perception of the value changes to 0, there is no inherent value there to keep the price up. In Berkshire stock, everyone would never consider the stock to be worth 0 unless all the businesses Berkshire owned were worth 0.

Inherent value is an important point to understand, because it represents a lot of risk when a speculative asset has no inherent value like Bitcoin.

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I think that it will even go to 20k in 2018, because bitcoin has the potential we have seen that it had risen 6k in a year this means that bitcoin can also do this again.

So i think that in 2019 bitcoin will surely have hitted 20k at least.

In one year up to 20k sounds insanely, but taking into account how the price of bitcoin is changing now can not be affirmed with 100% probability, which is impossible
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November 17, 2017, 08:13:28 PM
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A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

Your last line interested me the most...but why dont you think its in the cards? Surely people didnt think at the beginning of this year that 8k bitcoin was possible even 6k or even 4k. However all of that happened and now it

is the 10k target that is near. Soon we will be saying 15k, 20k, and 25k respectively. I think this is the beginning of things to come and we should embrace and enjoy the whole rid to the top (wherever that is).

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A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

Your last line interested me the most...but why dont you think its in the cards? Surely people didnt think at the beginning of this year that 8k bitcoin was possible even 6k or even 4k. However all of that happened and now it

is the 10k target that is near. Soon we will be saying 15k, 20k, and 25k respectively. I think this is the beginning of things to come and we should embrace and enjoy the whole rid to the top (wherever that is).

It's a valuation question for me at this point. On the one hand, it's easy to look back at what has happened with the price over the last 8 years and say at any point "well, we never thought X price was possible, but look at it now." That's a rather faulty logic that would suppose that the price will never stop going up, and nothing in economics works that way, so accepting it as a given makes me nervous to start.

But on the valuation front, Bitcoin has a market cap of $136 billion with a price of $8100 per coin. To reach $25,000 per coin, the market cap would be $408 billion if the number of coins remains the same, but there will be more coins at that point so the market cap will actually be higher. So the question to me is do I see Bitcoin reaching a total worth of $450ish billion? The threats to that are the fact that Bitcoin currently hasn't been able to scale and is susceptible to spam attack and there are worthy competitors that even at this point may be better at being Bitcoin than Bitcoin is, so future money coming into crypto might not go to Bitcoin but to other cryptocurrencies. That gives me enough doubt to wonder if Bitcoin can actually reach a price of $25,000 per coin. At this point, I wouldn't bet on it. That's not to say that I would bet against it, but I'm not putting more money into right now, and that's just a decision based on my personal appetite for risk. The potential reward here isn't worth the risk of buying at this price.

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A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

Your last line interested me the most...but why dont you think its in the cards? Surely people didnt think at the beginning of this year that 8k bitcoin was possible even 6k or even 4k. However all of that happened and now it

is the 10k target that is near. Soon we will be saying 15k, 20k, and 25k respectively. I think this is the beginning of things to come and we should embrace and enjoy the whole rid to the top (wherever that is).

It's a valuation question for me at this point. On the one hand, it's easy to look back at what has happened with the price over the last 8 years and say at any point "well, we never thought X price was possible, but look at it now." That's a rather faulty logic that would suppose that the price will never stop going up, and nothing in economics works that way, so accepting it as a given makes me nervous to start.

But on the valuation front, Bitcoin has a market cap of $136 billion with a price of $8100 per coin. To reach $25,000 per coin, the market cap would be $408 billion if the number of coins remains the same, but there will be more coins at that point so the market cap will actually be higher. So the question to me is do I see Bitcoin reaching a total worth of $450ish billion? The threats to that are the fact that Bitcoin currently hasn't been able to scale and is susceptible to spam attack and there are worthy competitors that even at this point may be better at being Bitcoin than Bitcoin is, so future money coming into crypto might not go to Bitcoin but to other cryptocurrencies. That gives me enough doubt to wonder if Bitcoin can actually reach a price of $25,000 per coin. At this point, I wouldn't bet on it. That's not to say that I would bet against it, but I'm not putting more money into right now, and that's just a decision based on my personal appetite for risk. The potential reward here isn't worth the risk of buying at this price.


Bitcoin is a digital currency system it rate increase day by day and current rate of bitcoin are $8143 and in future it increase high like in 2022 across the $25000 surely because it is a online transaction in all and it's due to digital currency and in economics works that way so accepting it as a given makes nervous to start .
So I believe bitcoin will reach 25k $ in 2022.
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November 23, 2017, 07:46:16 PM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
A very interesting read op but I do not think it is overoptimistic, bitcoin is already above 8000 dollars and the year has not ended and if we take into account there is going to be a halving in our way there then I think there is a high likelihood we reach that price by that date.

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November 23, 2017, 07:59:23 PM
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For now more prediction in bitcoin value was already reach, before i see the $5k prediction next is $7k, $8k and now we are expecting that before this year was end value of bitcoin will hit $10k. I feel that this prediction are possible to happen because now ghe value is closely reaching $8.5k and there is more than a month left.

Then for the year 2022, many thing will happen before we reach that year but very interesting to read positive prdiction by OP, we wanting to see that bitcoin was too expensive and we as pioneer will be more benefited by this currency and i am looking forward to save lots of bitcoin in the future of course this is for my family.

Also i am wishing that all government change their mind and support bitcoin to make all people have an extra income and i think it will help to boost the economy of one country if many people have earning method like here in crypto world.
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November 23, 2017, 08:02:39 PM
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I feel that a price of 25k by 2022 is actually perhaps quite reserved, many and myself included expect much higher. Another halving will happen by then and bitcoin did over 8x this year with a halving in play, I wouldn't be surprised to see bitcoin at 25k within the next 1-2 years let alone a further 5 years.

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November 23, 2017, 08:19:23 PM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
We are not yet syre until when will its value continue increasing, but ifbit will, i think the period of tkme is just enough based on the statistics of Bitcoin in the market. it has a high rate of increase and if it will continue, surely, its market value will be more expensive within a progress of 3 years. Also, if the value of bitcoin willl be much expensive in the future, the profit of its users and investors will also be hug3 and hoping that it will do so.

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November 23, 2017, 08:39:44 PM
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That is only a rumors, yes bitcoin value are incredibly increasing their value so fast. But in my speculation not like that amount they can reach because if you see the amount of bitcoin from 2016 up to 2017 you can see that this year is the huge increasing of value of bitcoin. Last January 2017 bitcoin price was only $1000 but now their value is playing into $8000 to $8500 currently.

In addition I was expecting more increasing of price from bitcoin, maybe 5 years from now bitcoin value were reach higher $25,000 because this 5 years is so long time. I think if bitcoin value increase up to $7000 every years it's was to far to believe that maybe bitcoin value were close to $50,000 in 2022.
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It's possible for bitcoin to reach that in2022, with the way bitcoin is just rising. It's so surprising
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Bitcoin is a transactions tool are made with no intermediaries, meaning"no banks!" No one knows what will become of bitcoin in the future.
It may be in 2022 the limit of 21 million bitcoins  will be reached, in other words, Bitcoin price will be up to $ 25,000 by 2022,  this happens based on artificial scarcity at bitcoin's inception that there would only ever be 21 million bitcoins in total.

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IMO in 2022 Bitcoin price can even higher than 25k$ Smiley) Just need to spend few minutes to take a look at the way Bitcoin has gone through in this year Smiley. It has increased more than 1000 % in this year only if it keep increasing like that or even more in next years I think in 2022 maybe Bitcoin price must be 50k$. LOL

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We can not say anything in the future, but bitcoin can reach $ 25,000 by 2022 but that is a difficult challenge.  Grin Grin Grin


I agree with you . It could be a great challenge for bitcoin. But why not? We all know that everything cannot be done without a process. Maybe it is a long wait also and a very big challenge, but if that would happen, then we will have a lot of earnings or we can gain a lot from that. All we have to do is not to quit and continue what we have started so we will not be behind with others.
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Bitcoin is a transactions tool are made with no intermediaries, meaning"no banks!" No one knows what will become of bitcoin in the future.
It may be in 2022 the limit of 21 million bitcoins  will be reached, in other words, Bitcoin price will be up to $ 25,000 by 2022,  this happens based on artificial scarcity at bitcoin's inception that there would only ever be 21 million bitcoins in total.
What are you talking about? The limit of 21 million bitcoin is not going to be reached until all of us are dead with some estimates saying it will be in the year 2140 so that is not going to happen, the halving that happens every four years is supposed to avoid that happens that soon.

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Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Projection is a scientific method and media is the most powerful influencer, met to built peoples' confidence and optimism. I think it will be perfect if it also considered some "obstacle" variables. I said obstacle, means something like anything those can push bitcoin price fall/ correction/ bearish.

My focus of that graph screenshot was disturbed by "TRIAL VERSION" watermark background  Grin
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We can not say anything in the future, but bitcoin can reach $ 25,000 by 2022 but that is a difficult challenge.  Grin Grin Grin


I agree with you . It could be a great challenge for bitcoin. But why not? We all know that everything cannot be done without a process. Maybe it is a long wait also and a very big challenge, but if that would happen, then we will have a lot of earnings or we can gain a lot from that. All we have to do is not to quit and continue what we have started so we will not be behind with others.

A challenge, yes. But I do not think achieving $25,000 by 2022 is impossible. At the beginning of this year, people would have thought you were crazy if you said Bitcoin could cross $2000 in 2017. Now, people think it will cross $10,000. So nothing is impossible in the Bitcoin world.


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November 24, 2017, 11:08:04 PM
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Well I would bet we will be even higher than $25,000 by 2022 simply because that is 5 years from now and the price was only $1,000 last year so if you do the math it will be $25,000 before 2019!



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November 26, 2017, 08:17:47 PM
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We can not say anything in the future, but bitcoin can reach $ 25,000 by 2022 but that is a difficult challenge.  Grin Grin Grin


I agree with you . It could be a great challenge for bitcoin. But why not? We all know that everything cannot be done without a process. Maybe it is a long wait also and a very big challenge, but if that would happen, then we will have a lot of earnings or we can gain a lot from that. All we have to do is not to quit and continue what we have started so we will not be behind with others.

A challenge, yes. But I do not think achieving $25,000 by 2022 is impossible. At the beginning of this year, people would have thought you were crazy if you said Bitcoin could cross $2000 in 2017. Now, people think it will cross $10,000. So nothing is impossible in the Bitcoin world.
This is why trying to predict the market is such a huge waste of time, bitcoin cannot be predicted it could easily go to 20000 in the next year or go to 5000, we must concentrate in holding our bitcoin under all circumstances to not sell it and to not lose it to hackers.

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November 26, 2017, 09:04:07 PM
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We can not say anything in the future, but bitcoin can reach $ 25,000 by 2022 but that is a difficult challenge.  Grin Grin Grin


I agree with you . It could be a great challenge for bitcoin. But why not? We all know that everything cannot be done without a process. Maybe it is a long wait also and a very big challenge, but if that would happen, then we will have a lot of earnings or we can gain a lot from that. All we have to do is not to quit and continue what we have started so we will not be behind with others.

A challenge, yes. But I do not think achieving $25,000 by 2022 is impossible. At the beginning of this year, people would have thought you were crazy if you said Bitcoin could cross $2000 in 2017. Now, people think it will cross $10,000. So nothing is impossible in the Bitcoin world.
This is why trying to predict the market is such a huge waste of time, bitcoin cannot be predicted it could easily go to 20000 in the next year or go to 5000, we must concentrate in holding our bitcoin under all circumstances to not sell it and to not lose it to hackers.
I agree, predicting the price of not just bitcoin but any other cryptocurrency is just a stupid idea, because there are many things that we can not know and the things that may affect the price in teh future, because bitcoin is not controlled by the normal market events they are random and quick, people say that bitcoin will reach 25k by the end of the 2022 i say we might even hit that number erlier than that, people didn't predict that the price of the bitcoin will go from 700$ to 9k in the bigening of the year, and this nearly 1000% increase in just a year was never a thing that anyone thought would be possible, so in the future the price may keep on this crazy rise and it might get shut down, but we can't know, only time will.
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November 26, 2017, 09:36:46 PM
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Op, such prediction appeared in so many places before now and I believe it is a possibility that is bound to happen and may not happen at all. But if bitcoin should continue the way it's value move this year that it will reach $25000 by 2022 though it is not a guarantee that it will come an accomplishment at the end of 2022. 
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Well after this year, nothing would really surprise me to be honest.
We can see a price closer to 20k, but it will depend on how 2018/2020 goes. 2020 is a halving year which means a higher btc price.
2018 could be a good year or perhaps a year  with crashes which we saw after 2013 ATH's
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Op, such prediction appeared in so many places before now and I believe it is a possibility that is bound to happen and may not happen at all. But if bitcoin should continue the way it's value move this year that it will reach $25000 by 2022 though it is not a guarantee that it will come an accomplishment at the end of 2022. 
Bitcoin has moved from $1000 from the beginning of the year  and it's currently hovering around  $9200 as of right now and it has the potential of reaching $10000 before the year ends. I think it will be an understatement to say it reach $25000 by 2022, I believe it will reach $20000 by next year ending if not higher.

 
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November 26, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
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Bitcoin has moved from $1000 from the beginning of the year  and it's currently hovering around  $9200 as of right now and it has the potential of reaching $10000 before the year ends. I think it will be an understatement to say it reach $25000 by 2022, I believe it will reach $20000 by next year ending if not higher.

I am agree with you, when you said that FundStrat the company who make the prediction is underestimating Bitcoin.

What I am seeing, Bitcoin would reach $50000 to $60000 by December 2019, or maybe more.

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November 26, 2017, 10:38:28 PM
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Op, such prediction appeared in so many places before now and I believe it is a possibility that is bound to happen and may not happen at all. But if bitcoin should continue the way it's value move this year that it will reach $25000 by 2022 though it is not a guarantee that it will come an accomplishment at the end of 2022. 
Bitcoin has moved from $1000 from the beginning of the year  and it's currently hovering around  $9200 as of right now and it has the potential of reaching $10000 before the year ends. I think it will be an understatement to say it reach $25000 by 2022, I believe it will reach $20000 by next year ending if not higher.

I would be sad if Bitcoin only reach that price that year. That's because I think the price of Bitcoin can reach more numbers. I hope, in 2 to 3 years the price of Bitcoin can reach 10 times as it did several years ago. That's because I want my investments to pay off in the time I've set. And I think many say that the price of Bitcoin will increase more than that. If the price of Bitcoin is going to be that way, or my predictions and predictions do not happen, then I want to ask something. If we invest now, then we start our investment when it costs $ 10,000. And if we want to profit 10 times, we have to wait until Bitcoin's price reaches $ 100,000. The question is, when will Bitcoin's price reach $ 100,000?
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November 26, 2017, 11:19:32 PM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

That is a very interesting article to know i just hope that those would be true because I plan to hold my bitcoins for that long and if that really happen I will be a millionaire in the year 2022 and that would be nice because im that year I will be 22 years old and that is my goal im life to have my first millions in the age of 20s i am just hoping that the bitcoins will continue to pump even if they do mot reach that price in 2022 at least they will mot stop on slowly pumping because a lot of money we made because of that thing.
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November 26, 2017, 11:24:37 PM
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Op, such prediction appeared in so many places before now and I believe it is a possibility that is bound to happen and may not happen at all. But if bitcoin should continue the way it's value move this year that it will reach $25000 by 2022 though it is not a guarantee that it will come an accomplishment at the end of 2022. 

There are a lot of predictions too about 2020's+ and what I like with those prediction is they are telling that bitcoin will be good at $100,000 by that time. And that's what I'm waiting for but if ever bitcoin's price will be hitting at $25,000 on that year that will be better.

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November 26, 2017, 11:52:40 PM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

That is a very interesting article to know i just hope that those would be true because I plan to hold my bitcoins for that long and if that really happen I will be a millionaire in the year 2022 and that would be nice because im that year I will be 22 years old and that is my goal im life to have my first millions in the age of 20s i am just hoping that the bitcoins will continue to pump even if they do mot reach that price in 2022 at least they will mot stop on slowly pumping because a lot of money we made because of that thing.
I agree with you i personally think that it can easily reach that price  by 2022 because at the end of this year it will have 10k and it has grown 9k in a year i think it is safe to say that it will reach 25k in 2022.
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November 27, 2017, 10:06:39 PM
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It is very much possible if we consider the current bitcoin growth rate.
We may see bitcoin to 10000$ in very short period of time.
Demand of bitcoin is increasing day by day among people.
My prediction is in 2022 price will be more than 30000$.


The growth rate is the key variable, but everyone is taking it for granted that this is 1) normal, and 2) sustainable. Normal is easier to argue, because Bitcoin has always been very volatile. Plus, how do you determine what normal is with such limited data? So perhaps extreme volatility is normal, and periods of rapid price appreciation can be normal, but sustainable is another question entirely. Bitcoin cannot grow at such a rapid clip for extended periods of time (up 750% in less than a year now), because the law of large numbers makes it more difficult to the growth rate the larger it gets. That's a mathematical question though. The larger question is can Bitcoin grow this quickly and not be a bubble. I'm not sold on that one. Everything about this feels like a bubble, because everyone looks irrational insisting it can't go down.

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I think that bitcoin will hit that target before the year 2022. Just look at it bitcoin can rise at any moment very high in a short time and remember that bitcoin is now a very good coin that is supported.

It will not easily fall down because people are now believing in it more than it was new.
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It seems to me that 25,000 for bitcoin will not be in 2022, but in 2018. And maybe even more. Theoretically, the price of bitcoin increases 10 times every 2 years. From this we can draw the appropriate conclusions.

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Interesting.

All of the valuations that I see like this are based on Bitcoin capturing a certain percentage of the gold market. Long term I think its definitely possible given a 5-10% swing in market share away from gold. The other factor that noone seems to factor in is the youth effect. There are tons of kids now growing up who are learning about crypto.

Part of the reason that superhero movies do so well now is because they were marketed to kids who are now income earners in the economy. In 25-40 years if all kids are putting part of their pension in Bitcoin - its definitely a likely scenario.

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The idea is possible. The value rise is fast. Bitcoin value is volatile, but its volatility proves us right that it always goes up. Therefore, if I would have fund right now, i will choose to invest now. Who knows on that year, i am a millionaire and I hope so. This is really exciting and I am looking forward for more increase.
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I think so too, especially, everything is going so fast these days. It'll be more of an anticipated outcome rather than unexpected and unreachable growth for bitcoin.
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Op, such prediction appeared in so many places before now and I believe it is a possibility that is bound to happen and may not happen at all. But if bitcoin should continue the way it's value move this year that it will reach $25000 by 2022 though it is not a guarantee that it will come an accomplishment at the end of 2022. 

There are a lot of predictions too about 2020's+ and what I like with those prediction is they are telling that bitcoin will be good at $100,000 by that time. And that's what I'm waiting for but if ever bitcoin's price will be hitting at $25,000 on that year that will be better.
Yeah many of bitcoin community thoughts about that value in 2022 and I think that its nearly possible because right now it already reached $10000. This is the power of cryptocurrency that it will probably dominate the market due to its very volatile. Lucky to be that I'm part of this revolutionary digital currency and I will be much happier of this happen in 2022.
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I think so too, especially, everything is going so fast these days. It'll be more of an anticipated outcome rather than unexpected and unreachable growth for bitcoin.

Right. It's highly possible that it's not even going to take 5 years before we see that 25k per btc. We've seen how the price went from 10k to 11k in hours so its looking pretty good for bitcoin. Next year probably for a 25k run?

 
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November 29, 2017, 07:45:05 PM
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We can not say anything in the future, but bitcoin can reach $ 25,000 by 2022 but that is a difficult challenge.  Grin Grin Grin


I agree with you . It could be a great challenge for bitcoin. But why not? We all know that everything cannot be done without a process. Maybe it is a long wait also and a very big challenge, but if that would happen, then we will have a lot of earnings or we can gain a lot from that. All we have to do is not to quit and continue what we have started so we will not be behind with others.

A challenge, yes. But I do not think achieving $25,000 by 2022 is impossible. At the beginning of this year, people would have thought you were crazy if you said Bitcoin could cross $2000 in 2017. Now, people think it will cross $10,000. So nothing is impossible in the Bitcoin world.
This is why trying to predict the market is such a huge waste of time, bitcoin cannot be predicted it could easily go to 20000 in the next year or go to 5000, we must concentrate in holding our bitcoin under all circumstances to not sell it and to not lose it to hackers.
I agree, predicting the price of not just bitcoin but any other cryptocurrency is just a stupid idea, because there are many things that we can not know and the things that may affect the price in teh future, because bitcoin is not controlled by the normal market events they are random and quick, people say that bitcoin will reach 25k by the end of the 2022 i say we might even hit that number erlier than that, people didn't predict that the price of the bitcoin will go from 700$ to 9k in the bigening of the year, and this nearly 1000% increase in just a year was never a thing that anyone thought would be possible, so in the future the price may keep on this crazy rise and it might get shut down, but we can't know, only time will.
This is why even if I like reading topics like this and hearing other people reasoning of why bitcoin can reach a particular price I do not act upon that information, I just hold my bitcoin, if bitcoin skyrockets I hold and if it crashes I'm going to keep holding since I have a firm belief in the technology behind bitcoin.

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November 29, 2017, 08:02:43 PM
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Is very interesting informations whose are giving me believe to it. I think it is really possible when i look what is going now with bitcoin
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November 29, 2017, 08:28:29 PM
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Op, such prediction appeared in so many places before now and I believe it is a possibility that is bound to happen and may not happen at all. But if bitcoin should continue the way it's value move this year that it will reach $25000 by 2022 though it is not a guarantee that it will come an accomplishment at the end of 2022. 
Bitcoin has moved from $1000 from the beginning of the year  and it's currently hovering around  $9200 as of right now and it has the potential of reaching $10000 before the year ends. I think it will be an understatement to say it reach $25000 by 2022, I believe it will reach $20000 by next year ending if not higher.

I would be sad if Bitcoin only reach that price that year. That's because I think the price of Bitcoin can reach more numbers. I hope, in 2 to 3 years the price of Bitcoin can reach 10 times as it did several years ago. That's because I want my investments to pay off in the time I've set. And I think many say that the price of Bitcoin will increase more than that. If the price of Bitcoin is going to be that way, or my predictions and predictions do not happen, then I want to ask something. If we invest now, then we start our investment when it costs $ 10,000. And if we want to profit 10 times, we have to wait until Bitcoin's price reaches $ 100,000. The question is, when will Bitcoin's price reach $ 100,000?

The main problem with this line of thinking to me is that people would expect an investment to increase 10x as a matter of fact. This line of thinking shows that people don't view Bitcoin as a risk, they view price increases as an inevitability, and that mania and irrationality is a surefire sign of a bubble. This exact sentiment fueled the mania that created the dotcom bubble and the housing bubble. Alan Greenspan famously called the market irrational exuberant during the dotcom bubble. To me, this looks far more unbalanced than that did at the time.

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January 30, 2018, 10:53:14 PM
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It is very much possible if we consider the current bitcoin growth rate.
We may see bitcoin to 10000$ in very short period of time.
Demand of bitcoin is increasing day by day among people.
My prediction is in 2022 price will be more than 30000$.
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January 30, 2018, 11:25:03 PM
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I would say that it is possible. Bitcoin last year almost reached the 20000- dollar mark and with that, I think it will be acheved earlier than 2022. At this moment, Bitcoin's market value fell and is now stucked in 10 000 USD, but I am expecting that its market price will eventually increase. So holding and investing now will be a good idea to earn huge profit in the future.

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January 30, 2018, 11:46:45 PM
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That'll be a good news for the rest of cryptocommunity. Speculations has it that bitcoin will rise more than the amount being presented in the OP which i think is very unlikely to happen considering bitcoin's sluggish movement. But then, bitcoin is very volatile and unpredictable that it might burst starting tomorrow. Bottomline is, we just don't know when it is so i think 25K USD by 2022 may be achieved ahead of time.

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That'll be a good news for the rest of cryptocommunity. Speculations has it that bitcoin will rise more than the amount being presented in the OP which i think is very unlikely to happen considering bitcoin's sluggish movement. But then, bitcoin is very volatile and unpredictable that it might burst starting tomorrow. Bottomline is, we just don't know when it is so i think 25K USD by 2022 may be achieved ahead of time.
It is not impossible for bitcoin because of its investors who make the bitcoin well-known and high in price. It is also a great news for everyone who are into bitcoin specially to those people who invested bitcoins. They are really profitable.

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That price is achievable even before the 2019.. now it's all about FUD, but after this bad month a rise in price is expected
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January 31, 2018, 01:29:19 AM
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Op, such prediction appeared in so many places before now and I believe it is a possibility that is bound to happen and may not happen at all. But if bitcoin should continue the way it's value move this year that it will reach $25000 by 2022 though it is not a guarantee that it will come an accomplishment at the end of 2022.  
Bitcoin has moved from $1000 from the beginning of the year  and it's currently hovering around  $9200 as of right now and it has the potential of reaching $10000 before the year ends. I think it will be an understatement to say it reach $25000 by 2022, I believe it will reach $20000 by next year ending if not higher.
bitcoin prices are very volatile even before this, bitcoin price reaches $19k almost touching $20k, but then the price drops due to recover and FUD, but I think bitcoin prices will definitely go back up again in the next few weeks or months, though bitcoin is considered ugly against the government but the spread of bitcoin will not be too disturbed, in my area bitcoin thrives, a lot of people start to know and invest in bitcoin, from that I'm sure that bitcoin will reach at least $25k in the next few years
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
It is incredible how just a few months ago that prediction seemed to be too optimistic and now it seems that is almost inevitable that we are going to reach that amount at some point in this year and in fact it may seem that price to be on the low side, this show to us how fast things can change in crypto and also why it is important to hold since it is impossible to predict when this is going to happen.
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January 31, 2018, 03:37:54 AM
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we have a chance to see bitcoin to $25,000 before 2022, this is what I am thinking right now because in this year, there will be many people wants to join into cryptocurrency world and they wants to get involve with this new technology so they could have another type of the investment that maybe they are looking for. we have a new generation that really cares about the technology and this generation is trying to break the traditional behaviour which only knows about making money in the real life. besides that, if there are many people join into the cryptocurrency, then this will makes the price going to increase because many people want to buy the coins and they will buy at any of price.
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January 31, 2018, 03:52:54 AM
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Well this price prediction of $25k by year 2022 is no different from  prediction we have being having in the past from different market price speculators, but to be honest with you 2022 is not far from now and $25000 price prediction is not too much to be achieved but since bitcoin is very volatile and judging from the growth in recent time I think bitcoin will rise even more then the $25000 predicted before the end of this year 2018 and also comparing bitcoin/gold is like comparing a little boy with an old grandpa because gold has been in the market for as long as we can remember but bitcoin just came and is doing well in term's of price and market value so my decision is I will keep holding.
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January 31, 2018, 04:08:05 AM
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The scenario has been going much worse. Similar thing happened when last year too, but all of the sudden the adoption from Japan boosted bitcoin to grow high in much small time period. The price pumping continued and took the price reach the peak value in unexpected time. Hope the price will increase now too.
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2022 is still 4 years away and I would be very disappointed if the exchange rates remain at $25K. The prices had touched $19K a few weeks back. So this prediction means that there will be only a 30% increase during the next 4 years, which is comparable to the returns from bank deposits and mutual funds.

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January 31, 2018, 04:28:11 AM
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Well every one can speculate and predict what bitcoin price may be in future, but what we must also understand is that bitcoin is very volatile and at that it is almost impossible to predict accurately what the price will be, and again saying bitcoin will be $25k by 2022 is understatement judging from what we see towards the end of 2017 I think bitcoin will have a growth that will be above $25k before the end of 2018.
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I would say that it is possible. Bitcoin last year almost reached the 20000- dollar mark and with that, I think it will be acheved earlier than 2022. At this moment, Bitcoin's market value fell and is now stucked in 10 000 USD, but I am expecting that its market price will eventually increase. So holding and investing now will be a good idea to earn huge profit in the future.
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Hope that happend yeahhh will be perfect.
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I don't think it would take such a long time for bitcoin to get $25,000. It would be there at the end of this year.
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It already had reached almost $20K on December last year and i strongly believe that it will surpass $25k by 2022.
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Bitcoin had almost reached 20000 USD last year but it is jist that continuous declines on its market value took place that made its price to fall as this much and is now stucked at 8000 USD. But since it is now starting to recover, I'd say that hopes are still alive that Bitcoin on the following years will be able to break the 20000-USD mark so just invest now and Hold!
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It already had reached almost $20K on December last year and i strongly believe that it will surpass $25k by 2022.
Bitcoin will reach $ 50k this year so the $ 25k bitcoin target will be achieved very soon, without the need for 2021. I believe bitcoin and the whole crypto market will have a very good time this year and goals will be met sooner than expected.

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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.

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Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
It is incredible how just a few months ago that prediction seemed to be too optimistic and now it seems that is almost inevitable that we are going to reach that amount at some point in this year and in fact it may seem that price to be on the low side, this show to us how fast things can change in crypto and also why it is important to hold since it is impossible to predict when this is going to happen.
Everything is really impossible for Bitcoin, through ups and downs, I will still be a bitcoin lover. As shown in your image you inserted, it's really amazing how people join bitcoin as years passed by. The instability of bitcoin will bring you amazing experience by just holding and buying on it.
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April 19, 2018, 01:26:49 PM
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It already had reached almost $20K on December last year and i strongly believe that it will surpass $25k by 2022.
Bitcoin will reach $ 50k this year so the $ 25k bitcoin target will be achieved very soon, without the need for 2021. I believe bitcoin and the whole crypto market will have a very good time this year and goals will be met sooner than expected.
Came here to say this. If bitcoin has to wait till 2022 to get to $25,000 when it already got to $20,000 this year then I would be very disappointed. $50,000 at the end of this year is what we are expecting from bitcoin and by 2022 we should be crossing the $100,000 mark and heading into bigger territories with market valu getting past $1tn

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This is a good sign for investors in bitcoin. It will help people to invest in bitcoin. The bitcoin market will be vibrant. The number of bitcoin buyers will be huge. Governments must find solutions to bitcoin operations and pay them.





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This is a good sign for investors in bitcoin. It will help people to invest in bitcoin. The bitcoin market will be vibrant. The number of bitcoin buyers will be huge. Governments must find solutions to bitcoin operations and pay them.
This price will be easily achieve this year, the regulation has started and fresh money will come in.
We almost hit $20K last year and it has been a trend that we will surpass the previous year ATH and if that would happen this year
$25K is just a very conservative price prediction.
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I think that's a more realistic price than those that say it will be $50.000 by the end of the year.
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No wonder that it could have that value, but maybe we could get that price by now if we'll just wait for bitcoin to recover from everything. There is no limit on what bitcoin can do to you, and most probably, there's no limit on how bitcoin's value could increase. Just keep on believing that bitcoin still exists in the future so we have something to get our money from, or our efforts shall be put on the waste.

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When Bitcoin was born, almost everyone was skeptical of the value of Bitcoin. But over time, the Cryptocurrency market as well as Bitcoin has shown potential vitality and rapid growth. When Bitcoin can reach $ 20,000 by the end of 2017, the increase in Bitcoin value may be beyond the imagination of investors. I think Bitcoin can be higher than $ 25,000 by 2022.
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July 03, 2018, 08:35:28 AM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
Hmph… sometimes I ask myself if people are coming here to post questions just to piss others off, lol. Like, who even cares about what the price of Bitcoin will be in 2022? We are either talking about the current year or the next year, and not three or five years next.

The worst part is that people are always wrong with their predictions and by the way I want to start making profit right now and not five years coming, I know it’s good to have patience, but there is what I’m trying to say… I’m not trying to say we shouldn’t have patience, but at least… We should give out information that are useful.

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July 05, 2018, 11:43:16 PM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

Quote
We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
Hmph… sometimes I ask myself if people are coming here to post questions just to piss others off, lol. Like, who even cares about what the price of Bitcoin will be in 2022? We are either talking about the current year or the next year, and not three or five years next.

The worst part is that people are always wrong with their predictions and by the way I want to start making profit right now and not five years coming, I know it’s good to have patience, but there is what I’m trying to say… I’m not trying to say we shouldn’t have patience, but at least… We should give out information that are useful.

Exactly, bitcoin is really unpredictable which I believe it's part of the bitcoin capability. Well, as I've been here in the forum, there are many speculation about it's value and it's possible that it will reach $25,0000 anytime. I.don't think we can wait on that year just to hit $25,000 since many users believe that this year will br the best for bitcoin as ita value is unpredictable and I believe that soon anytime its value will gonna sky rocket as what wish for all here in bitcoin community.
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July 06, 2018, 03:42:26 AM
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That is a very optimistic speculation. It would depend on how crypto currencies will perform by the end of this year after the crisis we had early this year. If we actually bounce back from it i knownthat 25000 USD is not very far off. Then again, i would say that by 2022 Bitcoin will be priced around 20000 USD at most. So people better start investing now when Bitcoin is still on yhe four digits.

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July 06, 2018, 01:32:24 PM
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I experience that a rate of 25k by way of 2022 is truely perhaps quite reserved, many and myself covered anticipate an awful lot better. another halving will appear through then and bitcoin did over 8x this year with a halving in play, I would not be surprised to peer bitcoin at 25k inside the subsequent 1-2 years let alone a further 5 years.
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July 06, 2018, 01:38:12 PM
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very reasonable, even can reach the value before the year 2022. could be in the near future in 2019 or 2020. considering last year the price could reach $ 20k.
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July 06, 2018, 02:00:49 PM
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When Bitcoin was born, almost everyone was skeptical of the value of Bitcoin. But over time, the Cryptocurrency market as well as Bitcoin has shown potential vitality and rapid growth. When Bitcoin can reach $ 20,000 by the end of 2017, the increase in Bitcoin value may be beyond the imagination of investors. I think Bitcoin can be higher than $ 25,000 by 2022.
I do not think Bitcoin will be worth $ 25,000 in 2022, I believe that Bitcoin can achieve this. A growing cryptocurrency market and Bitcoin are also gaining momentum in the global financial markets.

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July 06, 2018, 02:37:14 PM
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When Bitcoin was born, almost everyone was skeptical of the value of Bitcoin. But over time, the Cryptocurrency market as well as Bitcoin has shown potential vitality and rapid growth. When Bitcoin can reach $ 20,000 by the end of 2017, the increase in Bitcoin value may be beyond the imagination of investors. I think Bitcoin can be higher than $ 25,000 by 2022.
I do not think Bitcoin will be worth $ 25,000 in 2022, I believe that Bitcoin can achieve this. A growing cryptocurrency market and Bitcoin are also gaining momentum in the global financial markets.
I think it can happen. we know what happens in 2017, the bitcoin price increase is really a lot of people startled. well, although this year shows different statistics from the previous year, I do not think we know what will happen in the next year. could be in 2022 bitcoin prices can be as high as that.

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July 06, 2018, 03:13:56 PM
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Yes of course that this is very interesting to read and watch, i see tons of this predictions all over the day, and most of them are exactly the same, they all say that the price will be X thousand dollars by the end of X year, and this is a proccess that never ends, because those speculations will always exists.
But 25k by 2022 is reasonable, it is not so far away from now, i mean, it is only an increase of 5 from the actual value, and we did more than x6 during this year.


Indeed there is a very high possiblity that bitcoins will reach $25k dollars by that year because most of the people today are interested on investing and the hype in the market is always very high.
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July 06, 2018, 03:44:11 PM
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When Bitcoin was born, almost everyone was skeptical of the value of Bitcoin. But over time, the Cryptocurrency market as well as Bitcoin has shown potential vitality and rapid growth. When Bitcoin can reach $ 20,000 by the end of 2017, the increase in Bitcoin value may be beyond the imagination of investors. I think Bitcoin can be higher than $ 25,000 by 2022.
I do not think Bitcoin will be worth $ 25,000 in 2022, I believe that Bitcoin can achieve this. A growing cryptocurrency market and Bitcoin are also gaining momentum in the global financial markets.
I think it can happen. we know what happens in 2017, the bitcoin price increase is really a lot of people startled. well, although this year shows different statistics from the previous year, I do not think we know what will happen in the next year. could be in 2022 bitcoin prices can be as high as that.
Interest in Bitcoin would rise sharply in the upcoming years.The big hedge funds worth billions are starting to invest in Bitcoin and it’s just a matter of time before demand pushes up the price of Bitcoin to unprecedented heights.
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July 08, 2018, 11:49:09 AM
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When Bitcoin was born, almost everyone was skeptical of the value of Bitcoin. But over time, the Cryptocurrency market as well as Bitcoin has shown potential vitality and rapid growth. When Bitcoin can reach $ 20,000 by the end of 2017, the increase in Bitcoin value may be beyond the imagination of investors. I think Bitcoin can be higher than $ 25,000 by 2022.
I do not think Bitcoin will be worth $ 25,000 in 2022, I believe that Bitcoin can achieve this. A growing cryptocurrency market and Bitcoin are also gaining momentum in the global financial markets.
I think it can happen. we know what happens in 2017, the bitcoin price increase is really a lot of people startled. well, although this year shows different statistics from the previous year, I do not think we know what will happen in the next year. could be in 2022 bitcoin prices can be as high as that.
Interest in Bitcoin would rise sharply in the upcoming years.The big hedge funds worth billions are starting to invest in Bitcoin and it’s just a matter of time before demand pushes up the price of Bitcoin to unprecedented heights.
Yes you are right the demand will rise high in future because more and more people are buying bitcoin at the lower price which will be a reason for high future price of bitcoin, I think now day we should have patience and wait till the bitcoin will become global currency, and 2022 is so far I think in 2020 price of bitcoin will be more than 25k dollar because of high demand and increasing interest of investors.
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July 08, 2018, 01:03:57 PM
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Reports can always be a speculation if it is not yet happening so it can only be either true or falls. If bitcoin will break the 10,000$ resistance to start the final quarter of this year, i believe, bitcoin can reach 25,000$ by next year. Anything can happen to bitcoin and it's already proven by just looking at its history.

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July 08, 2018, 01:17:55 PM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
I think that the possibility is very difficult to happen, you can see that bitcoin prices have been falling sharply in recent days and the market is still in the cycle in the long term and difficult to recover.

Resilience is becoming more difficult as we are preparing for a world economic crisis and that will undoubtedly hold back the resurgence and development of bitcoin.
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July 09, 2018, 09:32:36 AM
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No wonder that it could have that value, but maybe we could get that price by now if we'll just wait for bitcoin to recover from everything. There is no limit on what bitcoin can do to you, and most probably, there's no limit on how bitcoin's value could increase. Just keep on believing that bitcoin still exists in the future so we have something to get our money from, or our efforts shall be put on the waste.

I agree with you because this numbers are only guessing of the price. You can think about the prices in next year but not about 5 years. I think we'll price doesn't next year is 7k.


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July 09, 2018, 09:43:09 AM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
I still believe that bitcoin and technology in this way to have been able to be wise and it will be risen by more than the other information that bitcoin is not capitalism in your own site, and technology o. I believe in science, and other information. Cause bitcoin can be bad for the market. I believe
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July 09, 2018, 10:30:52 AM
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By the year 2022 bitcoin price value would reach as much as $25,000 as estimated or as prediction but we do not yet what to happen in next five years, So for me It may happen,  I am a positive thinking, this would go true to reality because the business might grow and make this prediction to reality, it may not or may also be true.
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July 09, 2018, 11:25:56 PM
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When Bitcoin was born, almost everyone was skeptical of the value of Bitcoin. But over time, the Cryptocurrency market as well as Bitcoin has shown potential vitality and rapid growth. When Bitcoin can reach $ 20,000 by the end of 2017, the increase in Bitcoin value may be beyond the imagination of investors. I think Bitcoin can be higher than $ 25,000 by 2022.
I do not think Bitcoin will be worth $ 25,000 in 2022, I believe that Bitcoin can achieve this. A growing cryptocurrency market and Bitcoin are also gaining momentum in the global financial markets.
I think it can happen. we know what happens in 2017, the bitcoin price increase is really a lot of people startled. well, although this year shows different statistics from the previous year, I do not think we know what will happen in the next year. could be in 2022 bitcoin prices can be as high as that.
Interest in Bitcoin would rise sharply in the upcoming years.The big hedge funds worth billions are starting to invest in Bitcoin and it’s just a matter of time before demand pushes up the price of Bitcoin to unprecedented heights.
Yes people are now taking good interest in bitcoin, because bitcoin is gaining value high in our life now so it is good to invest in bitcoin because we are going to reach the mentioned price of bitcoin before year 2022, we should make everyone aware about the benefits of bitcoin I am sure will high speculation and trust of investors price of bitcoin will cross 30k this year at the months of December 2018, I am really hopeful.
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July 10, 2018, 01:02:39 AM
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very reasonable, even can reach the value before the year 2022. could be in the near future in 2019 or 2020. considering last year the price could reach $ 20k.
Yes i agree it could go to $25K before that year but it could also go down. Bottom line is we don't have a clear speculation on what could be the exact price of bitcoin if the future but we should remain optimistic that it would go to that level during that time.
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July 10, 2018, 11:08:39 AM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.



Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.
Quite an interesting information,  but why don’t you predict for this year and next, cause most of us here are not really interested in what will happen to bitcoin in 2022, we just want to know what will happen this year and we are sure of it, then we can talk about the future and know what happens.

And by the way, I’m  even fed up with all these fake predictions that you all are making cause none has ever been accurate,  always wrong. But no problem 🙄
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July 11, 2018, 01:24:14 PM
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If that will happen during that time, then buying bitcoin today while it's still down is a very good time to invest for you have something to wait for in 2022. But then again, speculations can either come true or not but even if it fails to reach that price during that time, i am very sure that i am still holding my bitcoin that time because i'm all locked up to hodl my bitcoin not lower than 5 years.

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July 11, 2018, 01:28:05 PM
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Too much time until 2022. I think the bitcoin price can be 25000$ in 2020, and also i think it can get higher than 25000$ value. Just waiting and get more bitcoin until then.
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July 19, 2018, 08:21:47 AM
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Too much time until 2022. I think the bitcoin price can be 25000$ in 2020, and also i think it can get higher than 25000$ value. Just waiting and get more bitcoin until then.
Your point is valid because the price is now on the move and will reach to $7000 till the end of this month. It is good achievement and further the price will grow more when the market cap increase due to more investment. If there are no correction in the price the price will hit $25000 very soon. The moon will start from $20000 because it was its previous peak.
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July 19, 2018, 09:09:54 AM
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First, a word of warning: I think the valuation is overly optimistic, in the extreme, and I would take it with a grain of salt. May very well be a small analytics firm looking to grab some attention by making a splashy claim. That said, the report was published to the firm's paying clients, so their own credibility is on the line.

The company making the prediction is FundStrat, which describes itself as:

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We are an independent research boutique, providing market strategy and sector research. Our differentiated approach is based on what we call fundamental strategy. That is, our research process combines both top-down strategy and bottoms-up fundamental views, to develop a roadmap of practical and useful investment insights for our clients.

According to FundStrat, Bitcoin is following Metcalfe’s Law, which essentially sketches out the value of a network based on how many users it has.

“If you modeled something as simple as square the number of users plus transaction value, it’s explained 94% of [Bitcoin’s price appreciation] this year,” Lee said.

https://i.imgur.com/ac27ZfW.png

Now, as for the future valuation, Tom Lee, Managing Partner of Fundstrat, put a $25,000 price target for Bitcoin by 2022 in a note to clients published earlier this year. However, and this is important, this view is predicated on cryptocurrencies displacing gold in portfolios with Bitcoin serving a “digital store of value.”

Presently, I don't see that happening. I think people using crypto as a long term store of value are taking on immense risk, and I don't see something as volatile as crypto displacing gold, which is historically a hedge against inflation and therefore done out of safety. Bitcoin is pure risk.

A $25,000 price is fun to think about, even though I don't believe it's in the cards.

Even if we don't reach that amount half of that would be fantastic and more than double of what it is now.
25k I think it makes sense, if you look at graph statistics and current conditions.
but will it be at speed, for example it happens at the end of the year do you think it can? 2022 a very long time.  Cry
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July 19, 2018, 11:15:27 AM
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this could happen in the 2022 but this could happen too in the next year because so far, we can reach $19k in the last year so bitcoin still have a chance to increase higher and probably it will reach more than $25,000. I will wait for that time and I want to see what will happen when bitcoin can reach $25,000. but I am sure that when bitcoin price can reach that number, many of us will be a rich person and we can withdraw a lot of money and maybe in that time, bitcoin is accepted by all countries.
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July 19, 2018, 12:15:18 PM
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I think it's too long, do not imagine bitcoin in 2017 and the price has reached the price of $ 20k so I think just a little bit more bitcoin can reach $ 25k.

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July 21, 2018, 06:58:59 AM
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If that will happen during that time, then buying bitcoin today while it's still down is a very good time to invest for you have something to wait for in 2022. But then again, speculations can either come true or not but even if it fails to reach that price during that time, i am very sure that i am still holding my bitcoin that time because i'm all locked up to hodl my bitcoin not lower than 5 years.
Yeah it may be possible because 2022 is far away and no doubt the price will grow day by day. Although there is correction some times in these days but overall I am sure the price will go up and till the end of this I guess that the price will hot $10k. Then more 3 or 4 years for bitcoin growth are enough. I think it will be more than $25000 till the year 2022.
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