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October 30, 2017, 12:12:22 AM
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This sort of idea caught my eye a while back, it's not too dissimilar to the way Genesis Mining build their rigs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA

Looks like they are using Asrock Pro BTC boards with their own custom software/os on USB stick.



Wow, it's impressive, much smaller than my own rig on a rack. Do you guys know the dimensions or where we can buy such a rig like genesis' one?
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October 30, 2017, 03:06:59 AM
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believe me, I try to found some pics in google vertical case but no luck

also important thing for me are risers mounted with spacers firmly to frame - now mounitng/changing gpu is very very simple and fast

Im not saying you copied.
Im saying the concept of vertical case is nothing new.
Thats all.
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October 30, 2017, 03:09:28 AM
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Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom.

If you have vertical fans along the side of the case the heat wont have time to rise.
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October 30, 2017, 07:22:44 AM
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Placing a fan on top instead a cover would nice to suck out the hot air
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October 30, 2017, 08:31:15 AM
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Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom.

If you have vertical fans along the side of the case the heat wont have time to rise.

Then you have to put fans in everycard along side in order to avoid heats contact from upper card right? Seems not practical to me.
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October 30, 2017, 09:31:39 AM
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Im not saying you copied.
Im saying the concept of vertical case is nothing new.
Thats all.
it was not excuse, I wanted to copy working project, but i can't find anything, thats why i have to do it my own, reasons which push me to do it:
- less space (footprint)
- less size overall(volume)
- mounted risers on spacers
- less cost for me
- if i will buy "normal" frame in shop I will wait few days

Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom.

your concer is right but this is matter?

difference will be 5*C maybe, hashrate will be the same


Placing a fan on top instead a cover would nice to suck out the hot air

too much drilling - maybe gain 1-2*C, I made this case for my self and check if this will be work ok, now I can copy dimensions and all holes patern and made it via CNC laser/mill without mistakes Wink
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October 30, 2017, 04:59:53 PM
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Frame looks really nice! Mining Vertcoin on the vertical rig would be awesome Wink
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October 30, 2017, 05:06:03 PM
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Really nice! I am doing something similar  (https://ibb.co/j3RVO6 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2335082.0)



Do you have a picture of it filled with GPUs?
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October 30, 2017, 07:02:24 PM
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i am waiting for more cards for now

but just for the pic i plug some old radeons

from the bottom

1050ti
7970 not connected
1070fe
r9 290x not connected
1060 6gb
1060 gb
7970 not connected





(why i not use top slot for one 1060? i think sth is wrong with riser, I will replace it later)

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October 30, 2017, 07:08:50 PM
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Thank you for the images.
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October 30, 2017, 07:15:01 PM
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Its clever, regarding space wise.

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October 31, 2017, 05:08:33 PM
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I can plug one more


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October 31, 2017, 05:25:54 PM
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That is awesome! I'm waiting for your dimensions and material Cheesy Thanks
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November 01, 2017, 06:24:31 PM
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i like your style.  My first frame is more of a giant test bed it could be placed horizontal as well but its been working better upright.  at the moment it only has 7 cards in it but it could easily do 16, maybe even 20.
https://i.imgur.com/WixHBCi.jpg
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November 01, 2017, 07:33:11 PM
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They actually use Colorful boards, which are like $40 in bulk, and server PSU's that cost them 50$ with the breakout and cables, a 40$ CPU's with a 30$ stick of RAM, so their total systems costs them $160.
Cant beat that price and efficiency, and it sure beats a 12/13/19 GPU build in stability.

Ah, my bad ... not an Asrock board then. $160 isn't a bad price, wonder what they get the GPUs for in a bulk purchase - dealing direct with the manufacturer ... prices we can only dream of  Roll Eyes

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November 01, 2017, 10:02:18 PM
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Nice pictures  Wink

I think, a little bit better cooling is moving up and far away from the wall

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November 01, 2017, 10:06:05 PM
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They actually use Colorful boards, which are like $40 in bulk, and server PSU's that cost them 50$ with the breakout and cables, a 40$ CPU's with a 30$ stick of RAM, so their total systems costs them $160.
Cant beat that price and efficiency, and it sure beats a 12/13/19 GPU build in stability.

Ah, my bad ... not an Asrock board then. $160 isn't a bad price, wonder what they get the GPUs for in a bulk purchase - dealing direct with the manufacturer ... prices we can only dream of  Roll Eyes



I heard from a contact that since that batch of RX 570's they flew in from China directly, a 6 X 570 system costs them under $1300 all inclusive, while it costs me over $2100 Sad

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November 18, 2017, 12:35:47 AM
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New project in progress

28x30cm base+ 70cm height (little bigger but i can fit 2x psu + 8 gpu + atx + long and wide gpus (zotac amp)

+ 5x120mm on front panel
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November 18, 2017, 12:54:02 AM
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reasons which push me to do it:
- less space (footprint)
- less size overall(volume)
- mounted risers on spacers
- less cost for me
- if i will buy "normal" frame in shop I will wait few days

I kind of understand the first reason, but the other 4 don't make much sense to me. The volume can't be smaller — you're still putting the same amount of computer hardware inside a frame, so why does it matter whether it's vertical or horizontal? And why "mounted risers on spacers", what's the point? When you're building a horizontal rig, the risers just sit on a support beam, by themselves — they don't need any mounting that way. I also don't understand how it is less cost and why you compare it with a "normal frame in shop" (instead of a self-built horizontal frame). Vertical rig like this requires a lot more work cause you have to fight the gravity: you have to attach the motherboard, the risers.. while with horizontal rigs the board and risers can just sit on support beams without any screws and spacers. I can agree with the first reason (although it's only relevant if you have up to 2-3 rigs, cause even with 3 rigs stacked horizontals require similar (if not smaller) footprint). All the other reasons sound strange to me.
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November 18, 2017, 01:28:58 AM
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reasons which push me to do it:
- less space (footprint)
- less size overall(volume)
- mounted risers on spacers
- less cost for me
- if i will buy "normal" frame in shop I will wait few days

I kind of understand the first reason, but the other 4 don't make much sense to me. The volume can't be smaller — you're still putting the same amount of computer hardware inside a frame, so why does it matter whether it's vertical or horizontal? And why "mounted risers on spacers", what's the point? When you're building a horizontal rig, the risers just sit on a support beam, by themselves — they don't need any mounting that way. I also don't understand how it is less cost and why you compare it with a "normal frame in shop" (instead of a self-built horizontal frame). Vertical rig like this requires a lot more work cause you have to fight the gravity: you have to attach the motherboard, the risers.. while with horizontal rigs the board and risers can just sit on support beams without any screws and spacers. I can agree with the first reason (although it's only relevant if you have up to 2-3 rigs, cause even with 3 rigs stacked horizontals require similar (if not smaller) footprint). All the other reasons sound strange to me.

Of course volume can be smaller - just multiply width x lenght x height

I have one frame for 6 + 2 gpu and it is 54x45x30cm so 5.4 x 4.5 x 3.0 = 73L

mine is 7 +1 =  24x28x70 so 2.4 x 2.8 x 7.0 = 47L

So 3 of vertical will take the same amount of space as 2 normal ones, maybe not revelant for most ppl but for me it is


Risers mounted on spacers is very helfpul if you changing cards often and also can be mounted a lot quicker, i change cards bcoz I am buying them used from gumtree/ebay and also there are different models

WHY?
COST
after i leave shop, electronic parts lost value immiadately - doesnt matter if used 1-2 days of 3 months - 40$ instant loss for one card
8 x 1070 - lost in value 300-320$
this 330$ I will mine in 33-35days

and i dont even add other parts to the equation, like psu/cpu/ram etc


so if you do the math and for example build NEW mining rig from shop, and want to sell it after 2 months you will realized your profit will be close to zero
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