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June 14, 2013, 09:47:42 AM
Last edit: July 18, 2013, 06:56:19 AM by hotcoldcoin
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Why is an "Ethical" project creating advertising campaigns to pump the price to $10?

Devcoin has been around for over a year, and at one point was even worth $10 per coin.


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June 14, 2013, 11:06:46 AM
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But wait, there's more!  Even the author, an account named FinShaggy, admits the $10 claim is false advertising, and yet still manages to include MORE pumping in the same messages?  My word, how blatant and shameful:

When I first got here they were talking about it. It got to $10 falsely (someone manipulated the market), but it DID get there. And now that there are so many publishers on board, and the bounties are getting completed, the value should be able to get there naturally this time.

It was $10 falsely, but it was $10, and it can get there again through true development.
agree. it was $10 due to someone failing @ exchanges, ie paying way too much for a single DVC
if nobody edits it, il edit it and add that it was an trade mistake and shouldnt be taken serious.

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June 14, 2013, 11:13:37 AM
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agree. it was $10 due to someone failing @ exchanges, ie paying way too much for a single DVC
if nobody edits it, il edit it and add that it was an trade mistake and shouldnt be taken serious.

Good start!   What about the all time low as well?    Somewhere in mid 30 satoshi level if I recall?
Just after Unthinkingbit created Devcoin, and before anyone wanted any of them, the price was technically 0.00000000
So the all time low is 0 satoshi actually

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June 14, 2013, 11:15:16 AM
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Good start!   What about the all time low as well?    Somewhere in mid 30 satoshi level if I recall?
i only know about the $10 mistake, im asking Kumala if i can get the trading history of DVC as csv/similiar to find it out if the ppls @ devcoin thread dont know about it.

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June 14, 2013, 12:13:20 PM
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There is another ethical issue here -- is the author (the account FinShaggy) getting devcoin writing and marketing rewards for this false advertising?   I really, really, REALLY hope not.
yes and no:
https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/account_24.csv#L39
https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/account_24.csv#L84

tough indirectly because he gets DVC for marketing/promotion management/administration, he dosnt get anything more than otherwise if the false advertising wouldnt be.
if there is someone paying something in non public obviously i dont know about, also discussion about this shouldnt be done since its only speculation/FUD.

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June 14, 2013, 07:39:11 PM
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agree. it was $10 due to someone failing @ exchanges, ie paying way too much for a single DVC
if nobody edits it, il edit it and add that it was an trade mistake and shouldnt be taken serious.

Good start!   What about the all time low as well?    Somewhere in mid 30 satoshi level if I recall?

It might have hit 30 satoshis and stayed around that price for quite a while. This was back in March when bitcoin was climbing fast, but before altcoins started surging across the board. For a good portion of that month I remember 60 satoshis and below starting to feel normal. I had generation shares at the time and definitely did unload some at that price.

I am fairly certain devcoin is not a scam, but I'm not a big fan of the pumping. It doesn't seem to be doing anything to help with the price, and that is before the outright dishonesty about the price history with the inflated $10 claim.

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July 18, 2013, 06:05:22 AM
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BUMP!   The false advertising is STILL on the devtome wiki, despite assurances by users above that it would be removed.

What a waste of space, no wonder the price is dropping like a rock.


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July 18, 2013, 06:18:39 AM
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Actually it is not dropping very well at all, I have buy offers every satoshi all the way up from one satoshi and it keeps on most days not biting back into those, instead it has been stuck up around 67 or 68 after taking quite a while to even eat my offers that had been there.

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July 18, 2013, 06:20:57 AM
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Actually it is not dropping very well at all, I have buy offers every satoshi all the way up from one satoshi and it keeps on most days not biting back into those, instead it has been stuck up around 67 or 68 after taking quite a while to even eat my offers that had been there.

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Interesting, but I respectfully disagree with you there.   But you skipped the important part of this thread, let us get back to it.  I will write it in a big font so everyone can read it:

THERE IS FALSE ADVERTISING ON THE DEVTOME WIKI, AND NO ONE IN THE DEVCOIN PROJECT WILL CHANGE IT


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July 18, 2013, 06:28:06 AM
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Well we have admins specially for dealing with bad content now so I don't know why it is taking them so long to get to it, maybe they have been prioritising by thousands of words instead of by specific statements buried somewhere in the words.

I am also wondering if Unthinkingbit happens to be asleep right now.

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July 18, 2013, 06:30:31 AM
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@hotcoldcoin: as i promised, i changed it Wink

@markm: lol @ thousands of words

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July 18, 2013, 06:32:18 AM
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@hotcoldcoin: as i promised, i changed it Wink

Only partially correct.  You promised to change it, then did nothing.   Then 2 months later I had to come back and start screaming at people to notice this again, and THEN you changed it.    

Devcoin supporters, you are a big disappointment.


EDIT:  Wait a second, K1773R, are you telling the truth here?  I just checked http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_advertising_campaign again, and the $10 statement is STILL there.   

What are you trying to pull here?

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July 18, 2013, 06:35:22 AM
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@hotcoldcoin: as i promised, i changed it Wink

Only partially correct.  You promised to change it, then did nothing.   Then 2 months later I had to come back and start screaming at people to notice this again, and THEN you changed it.    

Devcoin supporters, you are a big disappointment.

im no devcoin wiki admin/similiar, as i didnt see this thread popping up again @ watchlist again, i forgot about it Wink
if i wouldnt have done it, probably nobody would have done it. i wonder if i should reverse the edit just because of you being mad at me for not doing something which isnt my job at all!

EDIT: wiki is slow, its still "saving it", just wait Wink
EDIT2: this is what i changed it to:
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Devcoin has been around for over a year, and at one point was even worth $10 per coin. (The $10 Was a trading mistake and shouldnt be taken seriously, ie too few/many zeros while buying/selling)

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July 18, 2013, 06:43:19 AM
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Oh, this is such a shame.   KLLRwhatever, you said you'd fix it 2 months ago, and then "forgot" about it?   And now you want to damage the project further by keeping the false advertising?  Sad, so sad.  FinShaggys false advertising will live on, with support from the devcoiners themselves.




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July 18, 2013, 06:50:57 AM
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Oh, this is such a shame.   KLLRwhatever, you said you'd fix it 2 months ago, and then "forgot" about it?   And now you want to damage the project further by keeping the false advertising?  Sad, so sad.  FinShaggys false advertising will live on, with support from the devcoiners themselves.
i edited, cant you read?

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July 18, 2013, 06:54:53 AM
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Oh, this is such a shame.   KLLRwhatever, you said you'd fix it 2 months ago, and then "forgot" about it?   And now you want to damage the project further by keeping the false advertising?  Sad, so sad.  FinShaggys false advertising will live on, with support from the devcoiners themselves.
i edited, cant you read?

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i wonder if i should reverse the edit just because of you being mad at me for not doing something which isnt my job at all!

Ethical project, indeed.

This is going nowhere.   

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