Buying or selling bitcointalk account give you negative trust, agree ?

[Bitcoin_BOy$]

Hello Everyone,

Searching for a clear response is buying or selling bitcointalk account illegal in this forum.

I'm not trading or anything but asking because theymos created this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1785577.0

and there's Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Goods > Digital goods > Invites & Accounts (For selling accounts)

Most of people in that board who tried to sell bitcointalk accounts get negative trust.

I know most part of them are scammers that's right, anyway my question still, Trading bitcointalk account is legal or illegal ?

If so, the ones who gave negative trust to those who try to trade accounts, are abusing trust system ?

I repeat again, this is a question for clearing to every bitcointalk users that trading their accounts is legal or illegal and do not concern mine in anyway!

[Thekool1s]

Its not about being legal or illegal, but its a question of morals. Its morally wrong to sell something which can cause huge loss for the community later. Also that section was for other accounts not bitcointalk.org accounts. Majority of accounts sold are just for the purposes of spamming the forum through signature campaigns and the accounts sold with positive trusts are used for scamming people, its that simple. So i think people deserve the negative trust for doing something immoral.

[Vod]

What you believe or what you agree on is irrelevant.

The fact is, someone who has power to affect your trust rating views account sales as untrustworthy, and acts on it.

I should mention the same thing is true if you participate in a ponzi.

[dillpicklechips]

The right term would be: discouraged.

Account sales are discouraged since it would lead to spam, degrade quality posts, used to scam, accoubt farming and others that I forgot to mention. That's the reason why they are painted red and not banned.

[Jet Cash]

I think that accounts that are sold should be locked. Building account rankings should not be a career choice.

[BitcoinCurve~]

I think it's totally justified to leave a negative trust it's been known for the accounts to be sold and then later use that reputation to scam. I think people selling accounts with positive trust are the ones to really look out for though.

[hilariousetc]

I think it's totally justified to leave a negative trust it's been known for the accounts to be sold and then later use that reputation to scam. I think people selling accounts with positive trust are the ones to really look out for though.

And this is exactly what op has done.

I repeat again, this is a question for clearing to every bitcointalk users that trading their accounts is legal or illegal and do not concern mine in anyway!

You sure about that. I remember you being caught and reported for farming a load of accounts in the 777 giveaway thread using bots a while back. Looking at them now many look to have negative feedback and have been shilling for crapcoin ICOs:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455033 Twisto February 23, 2015, 03:36:01 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455031 BitLoard February 23, 2015, 03:34:32 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457072 Silverstar February 24, 2015, 12:52:54 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492173 bombding March 24, 2015, 07:15:30 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492177 givedusty March 24, 2015, 07:20:29 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492178 jimpix March 24, 2015, 07:21:26 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492180 NeliFur March 24, 2015, 07:22:39 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=506784 NeedsMoreJPEG  April 16, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=506785 HolyBananas April 16, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454846 MrLucas February 23, 2015, 12:46:29 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454844 Daniel_Th February 23, 2015, 12:45:27 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454839 waterpilem February 23, 2015, 12:42:01 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454843 AbrahamLinco February 23, 2015, 12:44:41 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454852 kamale February 23, 2015, 12:51:53 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455600 Th3Program February 23, 2015, 01:01:10 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455601 ElmedoRator February 23, 2015, 01:01:56 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455604 EgyKing February 23, 2015, 01:02:43 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455612 SeNeor  February 23, 2015, 01:16:53 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455613 GladuCame February 23, 2015, 01:17:45 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455614 TalkinGbad February 23, 2015, 01:19:12 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455615 DonTsTop February 23, 2015, 01:20:14 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455618 WhyNot? February 23, 2015, 01:21:05 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492171 JoeBriggs March 24, 2015, 07:13:03 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492172 HobbitMud March 24, 2015, 07:13:56 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457081 BitKonquer February 24, 2015, 12:58:42 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457089 SuperSnic February 24, 2015, 01:03:25 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457159 TankGuard February 24, 2015, 02:14:58 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457164 $Darkloard$ February 24, 2015, 02:17:44 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457167 TopGun February 24, 2015, 02:19:24 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455038 NightDream February 23, 2015, 03:39:39 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455041 TheeBoss February 23, 2015, 03:40:40 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455044 Th3developer February 23, 2015, 03:42:25 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455047 The3max February 23, 2015, 03:43:18 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455048 Jetpower February 23, 2015, 03:44:35 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455049 IIlustor February 23, 2015, 03:45:21 AM

So, are you the scammer or are you just selling accounts to them? And no, it's not against the rules to sell accounts, but this is exactly why it's frowned upon.

[Bitcoin_BOy$]

I think it's totally justified to leave a negative trust it's been known for the accounts to be sold and then later use that reputation to scam. I think people selling accounts with positive trust are the ones to really look out for though.

And this is exactly what op has done.

I repeat again, this is a question for clearing to every bitcointalk users that trading their accounts is legal or illegal and do not concern mine in anyway!

You sure about that. I remember you being caught and reported for farming a load of accounts in the 777 giveaway thread using bots a while back. Looking at them now many look to have negative feedback and have been shilling for crapcoin ICOs:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455033 Twisto February 23, 2015, 03:36:01 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455031 BitLoard February 23, 2015, 03:34:32 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457072 Silverstar February 24, 2015, 12:52:54 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492173 bombding March 24, 2015, 07:15:30 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492177 givedusty March 24, 2015, 07:20:29 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492178 jimpix March 24, 2015, 07:21:26 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492180 NeliFur March 24, 2015, 07:22:39 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=506784 NeedsMoreJPEG  April 16, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=506785 HolyBananas April 16, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454846 MrLucas February 23, 2015, 12:46:29 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454844 Daniel_Th February 23, 2015, 12:45:27 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454839 waterpilem February 23, 2015, 12:42:01 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454843 AbrahamLinco February 23, 2015, 12:44:41 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454852 kamale February 23, 2015, 12:51:53 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455600 Th3Program February 23, 2015, 01:01:10 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455601 ElmedoRator February 23, 2015, 01:01:56 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455604 EgyKing February 23, 2015, 01:02:43 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455612 SeNeor  February 23, 2015, 01:16:53 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455613 GladuCame February 23, 2015, 01:17:45 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455614 TalkinGbad February 23, 2015, 01:19:12 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455615 DonTsTop February 23, 2015, 01:20:14 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455618 WhyNot? February 23, 2015, 01:21:05 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492171 JoeBriggs March 24, 2015, 07:13:03 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492172 HobbitMud March 24, 2015, 07:13:56 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457081 BitKonquer February 24, 2015, 12:58:42 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457089 SuperSnic February 24, 2015, 01:03:25 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457159 TankGuard February 24, 2015, 02:14:58 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457164 $Darkloard$ February 24, 2015, 02:17:44 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=457167 TopGun February 24, 2015, 02:19:24 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455038 NightDream February 23, 2015, 03:39:39 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455041 TheeBoss February 23, 2015, 03:40:40 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455044 Th3developer February 23, 2015, 03:42:25 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455047 The3max February 23, 2015, 03:43:18 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455048 Jetpower February 23, 2015, 03:44:35 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=455049 IIlustor February 23, 2015, 03:45:21 AM

So, are you the scammer or are you just selling accounts to them? And no, it's not against the rules to sell accounts, but this is exactly why it's frowned upon.

All those accounts got hacked, I don't control them. By the way I didn't use them in anything illegal

[Vod]

All those accounts got hacked, I don't control them. By the way I didn't use them in anything illegal

Do you realize how you just contradicted yourself?   

[Bitcoin_BOy$]

All those accounts got hacked, I don't control them. By the way I didn't use them in anything illegal

Do you realize how you just contradicted yourself?   

I created those accounts at 2015, this thread describing that farming accounts is legal in 2016

I replied to him, I didn't do anything illegal, I stopped working on them 2015, they all have same password and someone hacked them.

Anyway I don't mine except my current account now.

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.0;all

[hilariousetc]

All those accounts got hacked, I don't control them. By the way I didn't use them in anything illegal

Do you realize how you just contradicted yourself?   

I created those accounts at 2015, this thread describing that farming accounts is legal in 2016

I replied to him, I didn't do anything illegal, I stopped working on them 2015, they all have same password and someone hacked them.

Anyway I don't mine except my current account now.

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.0;all

Why are you asking about this in the first place then? Just out of pure interest? Obliviously you're either annoyed that someone left you negative on one of your accounts or somebody who has purchased your accounts is complaining about it.

[Bitcoin_BOy$]

All those accounts got hacked, I don't control them. By the way I didn't use them in anything illegal

Do you realize how you just contradicted yourself?   

I created those accounts at 2015, this thread describing that farming accounts is legal in 2016

I replied to him, I didn't do anything illegal, I stopped working on them 2015, they all have same password and someone hacked them.

Anyway I don't mine except my current account now.

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.0;all

Why are you asking about this in the first place then? Just out of pure interest? Obliviously you're either annoyed that someone left you negative on one of your accounts or somebody who has purchased your accounts is complaining about it.

You're saying this based on your own imaginations.
I only have my word, and I said I don't control any account except this one.
All those accounts was just a test that I run for nothing more.

[BitcoinCurve~]

All those accounts got hacked, I don't control them. By the way I didn't use them in anything illegal

Do you realize how you just contradicted yourself?   

I created those accounts at 2015, this thread describing that farming accounts is legal in 2016

I replied to him, I didn't do anything illegal, I stopped working on them 2015, they all have same password and someone hacked them.

Anyway I don't mine except my current account now.

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.0;all

Why are you asking about this in the first place then? Just out of pure interest? Obliviously you're either annoyed that someone left you negative on one of your accounts or somebody who has purchased your accounts is complaining about it.

You're saying this based on your own imaginations.
I only have my word, and I said I don't control any account except this one.
All those accounts was just a test that I run for nothing more.

It wasn't a test at all you used the accounts to abuse the system and then got caught so you made up the excuse of them being hacked.

[hilariousetc]

All those accounts got hacked, I don't control them. By the way I didn't use them in anything illegal

Do you realize how you just contradicted yourself?   

I created those accounts at 2015, this thread describing that farming accounts is legal in 2016

I replied to him, I didn't do anything illegal, I stopped working on them 2015, they all have same password and someone hacked them.

Anyway I don't mine except my current account now.

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.0;all

Why are you asking about this in the first place then? Just out of pure interest? Obliviously you're either annoyed that someone left you negative on one of your accounts or somebody who has purchased your accounts is complaining about it.

You're saying this based on your own imaginations.
I only have my word, and I said I don't control any account except this one.
All those accounts was just a test that I run for nothing more.

That's a bullshit excuse. I remember the bots only stopped when you were questioned about it. Why did the "test" carry on for months until you got caught? Also, can you answer what your motive was to create this thread in the first place? You wouldn't ask if it didn't directly concern you in some way.

[Bitcoin_BOy$]

Administrator can check their IP and compare it with mine, I bet I'm the only one who have bitcointalk.org account in my country.
I could deny that those accounts are mine, because he have no proof I'm their owner, but I didn't because the admin can easily check from which IP their created
with. I'm challenging him to give me any proof that I control those accounts.

[BitcoinCurve~]

Administrator can check their IP and compare it with mine, I bet I'm the only one who have bitcointalk.org account in my country.
I could deny that those accounts are mine, because he have no proof I'm their owner, but I didn't because the admin can easily check from which IP their created
with. I'm challenging him to give me any proof that I control those accounts.

Ips can be spoofed and you know that. It's very easy to create an account on your original IP and then start using Tor or a VPN later down the line. Your right you probably don't own a lot of them anymore because you've sold them.

If they were hacked and you were obviously making money on them why wouldn't you try and recover them?

[Bitcoin_BOy$]

Administrator can check their IP and compare it with mine, I bet I'm the only one who have bitcointalk.org account in my country.
I could deny that those accounts are mine, because he have no proof I'm their owner, but I didn't because the admin can easily check from which IP their created
with. I'm challenging him to give me any proof that I control those accounts.

Ips can be spoofed and you know that. It's very easy to create an account on your original IP and then start using Tor or a VPN later down the line. Your right you probably don't own a lot of them anymore because you've sold them.

If they were hacked and you were obviously making money on them why wouldn't you try and recover them?

I don't think anyone will create a bulk of emails just for testing I started all accounts on emails that don't exists, and didn't save any information about them.

By the way I don't remember I got asked about the accounts in past, because @hilariousetc saying I stopped the bot because I got asked about them ?

[Jet Cash]

Maybe members should be limited to one personal account and one business account.
The discussion board is unusable at the moment because of new accounts posting low value replies in all the tired old threads.

[Lauda]

I'm not trading or anything but asking because theymos created this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1785577.0

and there's Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Goods > Digital goods > Invites & Accounts (For selling accounts)

For selling various, non bitcointalk, accounts. However, all kinds of account sales belong in that section. It was primarily made because of the sheer amount of threads appearing in the main section.

I know most part of them are scammers that's right, anyway my question still, Trading bitcointalk account is legal or illegal ?

Legality is debatable.

If so, the ones who gave negative trust to those who try to trade accounts, are abusing trust system ?

Absolutely not, and just asking that question is ridiculous. Do not trade accounts.

All those accounts got hacked, I don't control them. By the way I didn't use them in anything illegal

Do you realize how you just contradicted yourself?  

I created those accounts at 2015, this thread describing that farming accounts is legal in 2016

I replied to him, I didn't do anything illegal, I stopped working on them 2015, they all have same password and someone hacked them.

Abusing a giveaway and farming accounts. I wonder how many of your own accounts were enrolled in the Waves campaign.

[Lauda]

Account farming and now lying, because you did use them for abusing a giveaway. Do not PM me again.