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November 06, 2017, 05:33:16 PM |
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Tell my about this BASIC research. What can you research without knowing the most important part of the equation - the new hashing power introduced to the network? So far there are over 35 000 D3's running. The picture would be very different if there were 10 000. You could not known that in august!
It was also impossible to predict how the market would react at the increased difficulty. Dash price could have followed the net hashrate how it was doing in August.
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mcan (OP)
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November 06, 2017, 09:58:26 PM |
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"you shouldnt buy Don't blame other for your mistakes. buy the 1st or 2nd bacth maximum, at REAL price or die So people still buying s9 or l3+ and they are still profitable, your logic is wrong, people bought d3 because of bitmain's previous strategy. But now BITMAIN = SCAMMER
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Mr_Snipes
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November 06, 2017, 10:52:31 PM |
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Tell my about this BASIC research. What can you research without knowing the most important part of the equation - the new hashing power introduced to the network? So far there are over 35 000 D3's running. The picture would be very different if there were 10 000. You could not known that in august!
It was also impossible to predict how the market would react at the increased difficulty. Dash price could have followed the net hashrate how it was doing in August. Hashrate always follows price, not the other way around. Takes a bit to sink in, for me at first as well
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lunobird
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November 06, 2017, 11:21:38 PM |
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If I had a D3 and wasn't making any profit on Dash, I would start mining Altcoins with X11 algo.
Perfect time to start diversifying to other x11 coins.
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leowonderful
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November 06, 2017, 11:39:15 PM |
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I don't know why people are getting angry at Bitmain for delivering them bricks when they aren't realising that it's a risk in the first place and people say this all the time. Or I'm just dumb and mining is always 100% profitable 100% of the time. Nobody can predict the future, just because the L3 was successful doesn't mean the D3 would be as well. It's a good learning experience more than anything, too many people think mining is riskless nowadays.
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November 07, 2017, 01:07:01 AM Last edit: November 07, 2017, 01:19:16 AM by Vann |
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Bitmain sells specialized mining hardware. They never made claims regarding the profitability of the hardware they sell. That's up to YOU to decide based on your OWN due diligence and circumstances before you choose to invest in a HIGHLY SPECULATIVE venture such as ASIC mining. Bitmain never twisted anybody's arm or told you you should buy it. You made that decision on your own, apparently based on just the foolish assumption that just because the other ASIC miners Bitamin sells are currently profitable, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the miner you ordered. Doing even some basic research regarding the coin you were planning to mine, you would have realized you were taking a big risk and now you are paying the cost for YOUR poor decision. You have NOTHING to complain about.
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mcan (OP)
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November 07, 2017, 06:22:53 AM |
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Bitmain sells specialized mining hardware. They never made claims regarding the profitability of the hardware they sell. That's up to YOU to decide based on your OWN due diligence and circumstances before you choose to invest in a HIGHLY SPECULATIVE venture such as ASIC mining. Bitmain never twisted anybody's arm or told you you should buy it. You made that decision on your own, apparently based on just the foolish assumption that just because the other ASIC miners Bitamin sells are currently profitable, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the miner you ordered. Doing even some basic research regarding the coin you were planning to mine, you would have realized you were taking a big risk and now you are paying the cost for YOUR poor decision. You have NOTHING to complain about.
Bullshit, because they wont sell any d3 units anymore ? 5 years old kids knows if there is no profit nobody will buy. This is directly related how many unith that bitmain sold , you you can not say your decision or blabla .
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November 07, 2017, 07:44:33 AM |
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I'm waiting on 8... lol rip. I should of bought more S9's. Oh well I guess. Can buy D3's cheap on ebay now. S9's are now the new D3's on ebay. Flipped it.
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Vann
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November 07, 2017, 08:21:45 AM Last edit: November 07, 2017, 08:35:03 AM by Vann |
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Bitmain sells specialized mining hardware. They never made claims regarding the profitability of the hardware they sell. That's up to YOU to decide based on your OWN due diligence and circumstances before you choose to invest in a HIGHLY SPECULATIVE venture such as ASIC mining. Bitmain never twisted anybody's arm or told you you should buy it. You made that decision on your own, apparently based on just the foolish assumption that just because the other ASIC miners Bitamin sells are currently profitable, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the miner you ordered. Doing even some basic research regarding the coin you were planning to mine, you would have realized you were taking a big risk and now you are paying the cost for YOUR poor decision. You have NOTHING to complain about.
Bullshit, because they wont sell any d3 units anymore ? 5 years old kids knows if there is no profit nobody will buy. This is directly related how many unith that bitmain sold , you you can not say your decision or blabla . Bitmain can choose to run their company as they see fit. The fact of the matter is, it is YOUR decision to determine if the unit fits your needs. By purchasing from Bitmain, you AGREED to those terms. The products on our Site are intended for personal, not commercial or business use, unless otherwise indicated. As such, you assume the risk when purchasing products for a commercial or business use or application. https://shop.bitmain.com/serviceRule.htmYou also don't want to accept that ASIC mining is a highly speculative venture and it's not at all uncommon for units to be completley unprofitable within months of their release as new and better models come out. By purchasing specialized mining hardawre that has a single purpose, that is a risk YOU take.
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mcan (OP)
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November 07, 2017, 08:35:54 AM |
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Bitmain sells specialized mining hardware. They never made claims regarding the profitability of the hardware they sell. That's up to YOU to decide based on your OWN due diligence and circumstances before you choose to invest in a HIGHLY SPECULATIVE venture such as ASIC mining. Bitmain never twisted anybody's arm or told you you should buy it. You made that decision on your own, apparently based on just the foolish assumption that just because the other ASIC miners Bitamin sells are currently profitable, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the miner you ordered. Doing even some basic research regarding the coin you were planning to mine, you would have realized you were taking a big risk and now you are paying the cost for YOUR poor decision. You have NOTHING to complain about.
Bullshit, because they wont sell any d3 units anymore ? 5 years old kids knows if there is no profit nobody will buy. This is directly related how many unith that bitmain sold , you you can not say your decision or blabla . Bitmain can choose to run their company as they see fit. The fact of the matter is, it is YOUR decision to determine if the unit fits your needs. By purchaing from Bitmain you AGREED to those terms. The products on our Site are intended for personal, not commercial or business use, unless otherwise indicated. As such, you assume the risk when purchasing products for a commercial or business use or application. https://shop.bitmain.com/serviceRule.htmYou also don't want to accept that ASIC mining is a highly speculative venture and it's not at all uncommon for units to be completley unprofitable within months of their release as new and better models come out. By purchasing specialized mining hardawre that has a single purpose, that is a risk YOU take. How much do you take from BITMAIN to produce these bullshits ? Miner needs to make profit to validate transactions? dont you know about this ? 5 years old kids know this . so stop scamming and if you and your scammers sell brandnew miner it should be profitable. This is why they dont sell s5,s7 anymore. This is why avalon or other lost the battle, otherwise they should still continue to sell their bricks. But your company BITMAIN fooled people by using their previous reputation.and they can do something about this issue other than creating such bullshit messages.
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Bulletdodger
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November 07, 2017, 10:58:04 AM |
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Hehe, new batch of L3+ opens today. Profitability till Xmas - buck a day. Kidding - it is still holding its ground much better than D3
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Ben271286
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November 07, 2017, 11:08:16 AM |
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It was more than obviously what will happen to x11 with all that new mining devices from bitmain, ibelink, innosilicon and the rest...it was 1+1 to know what will be the outcome of this...i sticked to the L3+ and now selling them...pure greed through all those calculators...ppl set off their brains...like u blame the seller of gold shuffels u find no gold....the shuffel sellers and the first on the train made the most profits...no its game over...i am not sry for the ppl who burned their money on these maschines...dont blame Bitmain blame yourself!!!
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November 07, 2017, 11:55:20 AM |
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But if the price will go up, you will be so happy that you bought your D3 Antminer and you will be telling everybody that they should do the same..
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Ass, Gas or Grass! No one rides for free!
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November 07, 2017, 12:04:07 PM Last edit: November 07, 2017, 12:26:00 PM by d57heinz |
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What I see is a company who figured out a way around ico ban. Create miner only accept coin in same currency as it can mine, pump price with your profits from miner sales, flood market with useless heater. Mine with customers machines for the first three months getting all the profit that the customer should have gotten. Then ship machine and dump all your coins so that it’s not profitable to run said machine. Seems bitmain has it pretty well figured out. Yes this is bitmain fault. They fucked us again and again
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Steven3iii
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November 07, 2017, 12:11:44 PM |
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How much do you want to sell me your D3s for? I am interested...I wonder how much they will go for.
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November 07, 2017, 12:30:31 PM |
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Profit in D3 will recover when Dash and other x11 coins.... goes price up!, meantime gross of the market is over BTC.... once BTC become bearish market, alts coins will goes bullish....... DASH at 2000 $ per coin, reward will recover 50$ / day. The price must burst up like hell
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mcan (OP)
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November 07, 2017, 01:09:28 PM |
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Would you like to buy MY one of ANTDRIER D3 ? OF COURSE NO HA ? BECAUSE you have only trolling here , no body will invest 2000usd for any device brings 20usd per month. BITMAIN gives 180days warranty so this unit can not make 2000usd in his lifetime. This is totally loss. Not related with lack of research. Simple question do you have anyminer?
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Ben271286
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November 07, 2017, 01:19:45 PM |
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What I see is a company who figured out a way around ico ban. Create miner only accept coin in same currency as it can mine, pump price with your profits from miner sales, flood market with useless heater. Mine with customers machines for the first three months getting all the profit that the customer should have gotten. Then ship machine and dump all your coins so that it’s not profitable to run said machine. Seems bitmain has it pretty well figured out. Yes this is bitmain fault. They fucked us again and again
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It’s moreless a Ponzi. Complicated but one nonetheless
Why are you buying there machines then? If u want to take Bitmains power then dont buy there...but greedyness is everywhere...some folks will always support evil Bitmain! Its really time for some competitioners!
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Ben271286
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November 07, 2017, 01:21:54 PM |
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Profit in D3 will recover when Dash and other x11 coins.... goes price up!, meantime gross of the market is over BTC.... once BTC become bearish market, alts coins will goes bullish....... DASH at 2000 $ per coin, reward will recover 50$ / day. The price must burst up like hell
pure speculation...i will never see dash at 2000$ sry
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