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June 18, 2013, 04:52:06 PM
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June 18, 2013, 04:54:14 PM
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7000 kWh per month equals ~10kW.

That's not true.

7000 Kwh in 1 month
7000 Kwh in 732 hours
9.56 Kw
956 W not 10kW


Actually he is right, 7000 KWh a month, this means 24 hour x 31 day = 744 hours a month, so 7000/744 ~ 9.4 kwh.

my rigs use around 2.3 - 2.7 KWh and I use around 2300 -2400 KWh a month, so his state is just about right

I've got confused when I've just saw the numbers they were posting , I've thought they were talking about the hourly average of there rigs, but they are posting the average that they use the hole month
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June 18, 2013, 06:07:44 PM
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I have 10KW running in my garage for over 18 months.  I called the power company and told them I was running computer servers and not growing marijuana.  They looked at my account and said since my power was steady and not turning on and off like big lights were coming on and off that they did not suspect me of being a grower.  They look for power spikes with growers.
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June 18, 2013, 06:14:15 PM
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I have 10KW running in my garage for over 18 months.  I called the power company and told them I was running computer servers and not growing marijuana.  They looked at my account and said since my power was steady and not turning on and off like big lights were coming on and off that they did not suspect me of being a grower.  They look for power spikes with growers.

I need to connect to a pool then that isn't retarded and vulnerable to ddos.  **bitminter ahem**

Thanks guys for the personal stories and usage figures.  Keep them coming.  I've enjoyed reading this thread.  I feel a lot less concerned now.  Now I just need BFL to stop mining with my shit and send it.
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June 18, 2013, 06:25:13 PM
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A watt is a unit of power, that is energy use per second.  So if you multiply watts * time you get total energy use.

My computer uses 1000W of power.  That is 1000J / sec, which tells us the rate of use of energy.  Over an hour it will use a total of 1000W * 1 hr of energy, that is 1000Wh or 1 kWh.  If you run your 1000W computer for a month it will use 1000W * # of hours in a month.  Since there are about 720 hours in a month that computer will use 720kWh total energy.

An average home uses 500 - 600 kWH of energy in a month, an energy efficient home uses about half of that.

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June 18, 2013, 06:29:31 PM
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And yeah, my total usage for the month so far is 3500kw, sorry...yeah drop the h.
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June 18, 2013, 06:36:07 PM
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And yeah, my total usage for the month so far is 3500kw, sorry...yeah drop the h.

Total energy usage should be in kWh.  kW is your instantaneous power usage.

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June 18, 2013, 09:39:03 PM
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And yeah, my total usage for the month so far is 3500kw, sorry...yeah drop the h.

Total energy usage should be in kWh.  kW is your instantaneous power usage.

Had to look at the bill again...ok, yes, kWh.
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June 18, 2013, 09:41:33 PM
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Maybe I am paranoid:

The electric company no longer estimate my bills, which they used to do every other quarter. They send a man round, in a car, to my house, and only to my house, regardless.
I get an e-mail once a quarter, asking for a meter reading.  It doesn't matter if I give them one or not, someone still comes round to read the meter. I ignore the requests now.
A while back, a helicopter kept circling my area, night after night.
Cops on push bikes started cycling by, every day.  Never seen that before.
One time I looked out the window, and cops on foot were staring up at my roof, then walked off.  Huh

 Shocked Shocked Shocked


I'm going to invite them to show & tell.  I like that better than a 3AM surprise.


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June 18, 2013, 10:19:20 PM
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My local utility company periodically sends out a "energy usage report" where they graph your month-to-month usage and compare you to 100 of your neighbors.  I ranked 100/100 (100 means you used the most) due to my mining so I also started wondering at what point they'd send over the cops.

I emailed their customer support asking if high energy usage would cause law enforcement suspicion and this was their response:

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Thank you for your notification. This information has been indicated on your account. Your electrical usage has indeed increased.

Your electric meter is a device to measure the usage within the home. We have no way to determine what is consuming the usage.

Additionally, our records are confidential and only the account holder, or someone authorized by the account holder, can obtain information on the account without a subpoena.

BTW I have National Grid.

@FlappySocks: I used to live in an area where the electric utility would read the meters of all the houses/apartments with electric heat every month and read the others every quarter (or maybe less).  It's possible that your utility simply reads the meters of everyone who uses over a certain amount of electricity every month because those customers are the ones bringing in the most money and they'd like that money sooner rather than later.  Also to save you from sticker shock of incorrect estimation. (They had my apartment down as having gas heat and were billing us ~$60-70 every month until we got a $500+ bill about 6 months after we moved in and once they decided to actually read the meter.)
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June 19, 2013, 05:32:38 AM
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Is this guy full of it?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=23639.0

Noticed he has the scammer tag...
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June 19, 2013, 11:31:16 AM
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Is this guy full of it?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=23639.0

Noticed he has the scammer tag...
I think it's plausible; different places have different laws.
I'm still somewhat worried about attracting unwanted attention but figure the best defense is simply not having any type of illegal operation set up.

Not a great answer since obviously no one wants the cops breaking in at 3am looking for an indoor grow op only to find a bunch of mining hardware, but I don't know what else to do when the electric company claims your records are actually private.
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June 19, 2013, 08:05:06 PM
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Is this guy full of it?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=23639.0

Noticed he has the scammer tag...
I think it's plausible; different places have different laws.
I'm still somewhat worried about attracting unwanted attention but figure the best defense is simply not having any type of illegal operation set up.

Not a great answer since obviously no one wants the cops breaking in at 3am looking for an indoor grow op only to find a bunch of mining hardware, but I don't know what else to do when the electric company claims your records are actually private.

I decided to call my electric company this morning.  They laughed at me for being paranoid when I asked if there was a limit on electrical usage and why I'm asking...they said no.  Their auto-pay for residential accounts cuts off at $5K per month.  I won't come anywhere close to that.  I'm predicting a $1200-$1500 bill @ around 9 cents per kWh.

I told them I was going be doing a personal project with many computer servers and I asked her to note that on my account.  I joked about the same thing...I don't want to be confused for a grow op and used the proverbial "don't want the DEA busting down my door at 3am"...lady thought that was funny.  If I start seeing coppers checking me out I'll just go to the police station personally and tell them the same thing.
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June 21, 2013, 09:25:49 PM
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Maybe I am paranoid:

The electric company no longer estimate my bills, which they used to do every other quarter. They send a man round, in a car, to my house, and only to my house, regardless.
I get an e-mail once a quarter, asking for a meter reading.  It doesn't matter if I give them one or not, someone still comes round to read the meter. I ignore the requests now.
A while back, a helicopter kept circling my area, night after night.
Cops on push bikes started cycling by, every day.  Never seen that before.
One time I looked out the window, and cops on foot were staring up at my roof, then walked off.  Huh

 Shocked Shocked Shocked


Well there isn't much you can do without arousing more attention. If you have absolutely nothing to hide and you want to end the suspicion you can go to your police station and set things straight.

They also check your water usage. Indoor farmers use a lot of water. High electricity + high water = a warrant.

Bullshit, I don't think plants use that much water. My water company said 3 people should be using around 5-6000 gallons a month.
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