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June 17, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
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Is it just me, or does something seem cart ahead of horse, about all of this?  BFL has a functional chip: no question.  But even in Jally's, there was redesign required.  They shipped a couple (?) SC prototypes in the last weeks (two weeks?), but unless I've missed something, true mass production is not yet occurring.

To their credit, they now release the schematics for the SC, which they've been working on for 12 months or more, and the community embraces that as the Holy Grail that will lead to functional DIY equipment from the chips.

My question is this:  if BFL is stuck in some technical mud on the SC design, a year up the experience curve, how can the DIY community feel secure in using the furnished road maps to build out? 

Personally, if I had a dog in the ring, before I'd commit, I'd want to see some eyeballs on the documents from some who can bring to the BFL DIY what BKKcoins represents to the Avalon DIY's: someone with unquestioned technical credentials, and no personal agenda. 
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June 17, 2013, 03:23:11 PM
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wot?

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June 17, 2013, 03:35:24 PM
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Would probably be a good idea.
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June 17, 2013, 03:38:35 PM
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wot?

He wants someone with 'a quarter' to give the schematics a once over, because BFL's own irrational behaviour doesn't exactly inspire him with confidence...

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June 17, 2013, 05:15:02 PM
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Is that open source hardware?

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June 17, 2013, 05:26:00 PM
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BFL has done very bad things in the past year. Who guarantees that will not last.

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June 17, 2013, 06:02:19 PM
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Is that open source hardware?
You mean BFL?  Of course not; they're a for-profit, and, up-to-now, proprietary IP company. 

But it they're going to sell chips, IMO they need to provide detailed guidance on enabling circuits and share their experiences -good and bad- in PCB design issues.  Otherwise, why buy the chips?
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June 17, 2013, 06:08:55 PM
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laredo they did this weekend.

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June 17, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
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How can they sell chips when all the pre-orders are not even half filled??

Everyone suddenly selling off chips makes me think something better is around the corner.

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June 17, 2013, 08:41:11 PM
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How can they sell chips when all the pre-orders are not even half filled??

Everyone suddenly selling off chips makes me think something better is around the corner.
They have plenty of chips, but they ran into board issues, and their lack of boards is why they can't ship. They've already shipped 2 months worth of Jalapenos, but almost zero Singles.

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June 17, 2013, 08:47:43 PM
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I am very skeptical... the delays make me think that it would be more difficult for the board designer to create a working prototype and their business position in general makes me worry that the chips might not happen or might happen 100, 200, 300 days too late. Is this a strategy to fund their current operations a bit longer? How deep in the red are they?

If some reputable forum members decided it was worth the risk and went down that road (like the steamboat/bkk group buy) I would be interested, but I doubt they will given BFL's history.

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