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[crazy_rabbit]

Well, the gauntlet has been thrown down! Let the games begin!

[bitdwarf]

Let the games begin!

[FiiNALiZE]

Damn shits gonna hit the fan soon.

I'll get my popcorn ready 

[crazy_rabbit]

It will take me a couple of days to get a block explorer up and going.


The main point of attack will be 51% utilizing several botnets and a pool.

Needlessss to say the DGC pools will be DDoS'd into oblivion to reduce the hash rate below 500M/s.


The second point of attack that is just as lethal that I haven't used on a chain in a while will be a modified version of that genius kid Artforz time travel exploit. As my old nemesis Coinhunter would say, time for me to channel Artforz (rip), dig up my Teletubbies, put on my Artforz tin foil hat and bring it on.


Time frame to call DGC dead, 7-10 days.


~BCX~

It's so rare that a person gets to say "time travel" especially when planning an attack.

[rbdrbd]

I am wondering why among DGC and ARG, neither has a POS featureset. Not like it would help before 30 days of them being out, but if anything having POS blocks could go a long way towards strengthening the coins.

[gica_contra]

do it for the lulz

[FiiNALiZE]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

I've just done some calculating and it appears that by DDoS the pools, the solo hash rate will be less than 300 M/HS.

Also Vicurex just picked this coin up, think they want to be part of an attack vector brought on by the DEV?


~BCX~

It's called: overconfidence.

[crazy_rabbit]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

I've just done some calculating and it appears that by DDoS the pools, the solo hash rate will be less than 300 M/HS.

Also Vicurex just picked this coin up, think they want to be part of an attack vector brought on by the DEV?


~BCX~

Well, thems da' breaks I guess. At least when people wanted to 51% Terracoin I asked politely for people not to. :-)

[nearmiss]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

I've just done some calculating and it appears that by DDoS the pools, the solo hash rate will be less than 300 M/HS.

Also Vicurex just picked this coin up, think they want to be part of an attack vector brought on by the DEV?


~BCX~

don't DDoS mah pool please!

[computerparts]

bye bye DGC

[rbdrbd]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

I've just done some calculating and it appears that by DDoS the pools, the solo hash rate will be less than 300 M/HS.

Also Vicurex just picked this coin up, think they want to be part of an attack vector brought on by the DEV?


~BCX~

It's called: overconfidence.

I'm inclined to agree...I think it's a bit premature to throw a 1GH attack against the coin, especially when most/much of the miners are sitting in vulnerable pushpools. The wallet does have up to date checkpoints, but you'll still be 51%ing the network. ...one where the coin has no POS, a 20 second block time with only 5 confirms required. I hold a decent amount of DGC currently (half mined, half bought) and this has me a bit concerned.

[FiiNALiZE]

Still the dev did openly challenge anyone to 51% his coin so...

[BazkieBumpercar]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

It's just a remark made in the sense of, 'you'd need a large botneed to do so, probably not going to happen', not an *actual challenge*.

That idiots here pick it up like that and are going to try to kill it, that's because people suck, not because the dev actually expected that to happen.

Threads like these are the reason I am a misantrope.

[FiiNALiZE]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

It's just a remark made in the sense of, 'you'd need a large botneed to do so, probably not going to happen', not an *actual challenge*.

That idiots here pick it up like that and are going to try to kill it, that's because people suck, not because the dev actually expected that to happen.

Threads like these are the reason I am a misantrope.

Misantropes are hypocrites because they themselves are human 

[BazkieBumpercar]

Why, maybe I actually hate myself for being human

[CartmanSPC]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

Marketing tactic? Were all talking about it now

[nearmiss]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

I've just done some calculating and it appears that by DDoS the pools, the solo hash rate will be less than 300 M/HS.

Also Vicurex just picked this coin up, think they want to be part of an attack vector brought on by the DEV?


~BCX~

don't DDoS mah pool please!

Do you have a DGC pool?


~BCX~

I do 

[FiiNALiZE]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

Marketing tactic? Were all talking about it now

lol marketing tactic...until it backfires and the community takes you seriously.

[Oldminer]

ok...

[jasonslow]

They even successfully attacked FTC, FTC has much higher hashrate than dgc. I think its time now for the alts to unite and vote an alts that we need to survive.

[Eli0t]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

I've just done some calculating and it appears that by DDoS the pools, the solo hash rate will be less than 300 M/HS.

Also Vicurex just picked this coin up, think they want to be part of an attack vector brought on by the DEV?


~BCX~

don't DDoS mah pool please!

Do you have a DGC pool?


~BCX~

only in his sig

[jasonslow]

What I can't figure out is why any DEV wanting their coin to flourish would make such an insane challenge especially when total network has is about 1 G/HS including the pools.

I've just done some calculating and it appears that by DDoS the pools, the solo hash rate will be less than 300 M/HS.

Also Vicurex just picked this coin up, think they want to be part of an attack vector brought on by the DEV?


~BCX~

don't DDoS mah pool please!

Do you have a DGC pool?


~BCX~

I do  

Don't worry BCX will stop the attack after 3 days. Your pool will function again.  

[bizz]

They even successfully attacked FTC, FTC has much higher hashrate than dgc. I think its time now for the alts to unite and vote an alts that we need to survive.

Facts? Don't think so. But I'm not sure either, so I'll ask instead of being .. ok wont go there really:

So anyone knows FTC hashrates just before an attack? I heard they were under 700MH.

[FiiNALiZE]

They even successfully attacked FTC, FTC has much higher hashrate than dgc. I think its time now for the alts to unite and vote an alts that we need to survive.

Facts? Don't think so. But I'm not sure either, so I'll ask instead of being .. ok wont go there really:

So anyone knows FTC hashrates just before an attack? I heard they were under 700MH.

I thought it was around 150MH/s

[Petr1fied]

The wallet does have up to date checkpoints

The last checkpoint was 22 days or 106,841 blocks ago.

[anderl]

what's the point dev just put in a checkpoint and the attack is worthless.  all it will do is slow down the network for as long as they are attacking it.  miners will come back after the attack is over.  not sure how DGC will be "dead"?

[Petr1fied]

The point is the dev is foolish for encouraging it. It's like waving a red rag in front of a bull just to see if it will charge.

[anderl]

The point is the dev is foolish for encouraging it. It's like waving a red rag in front of a bull just to see if it will charge.

are so many people here really bull headed?  not a mature one in the bunch?

[Eli0t]

[JasperParsons]

what's the point dev just put in a checkpoint and the attack is worthless.  all it will do is slow down the network for as long as they are attacking it.  miners will come back after the attack is over.  not sure how DGC will be "dead"?

Is the dev going to be adding checkpoints every 10 blocks?  Because that's about all a 51% attack takes, and the truth is, it's really difficult to notice initially unless you're actually watching a live version of the blockchain.  Since most alt-coins have either no blockchain explorer or a very poor one, I will not be surprised when we uncover that most of the alt-coins have already been attacked.

The only way to somewhat protect yourself in this case would be to have 100 block confirmations on deposits to exchanges, and checkpoints every 50 blocks.  Pools would only have to download a new client every few minutes.  

[rbdrbd]

ZeroCool gunna git ya!

[MaGNeT]

The dev sold all his DGC and wants to buy back cheap.

The best way to do that, is by creating panic.

[Joerii]

Could someone please to me in baby language what you can actually do when you control 51% of the network hashrate ?

[anderl]

Could someone please to me in baby language what you can actually do when you control 51% of the network hashrate ?

stop transactions from being confirmed, spend coins many times more than you have at exchanges.

[gica_contra]

Could someone please to me in baby language what you can actually do when you control 51% of the network hashrate ?

stop transactions from being confirmed, spend coins many times more than you have at exchanges.

yep, good fun will be had by all 

[dubs]

yay let the fun begin

[blockzett]

You know, this is the best PR action DG-Coin got in the last few days....?     Just keep it going.
"Let the games begin..." omg, come on guys.

[MaGNeT]

You can hate or like BitcoinExpress for what he is or what he does, but if he can do it, others can too.
The fact that he openly talks about it, makes us more aware of the dangers that exist.

You can ban him from Bitcointalk.org but it doesn't change the danger to any low hashrate altcoin at the moment.

If you want to protect your coin against a 51% attack, put your hashrate at it or don't complain.

[jasonslow]

Waiting here if BCX can really do this.

[theBee2112]

So for those of us mining DGC, we shall all switch to solo mining. Why not. Still not sure why I'm mining these.

Though if Baritus doesn't care if the coin lives, maybe i'll donate my miners to a botnet.

[LosingAlpha]

It will take me a couple of days to get a block explorer up and going.


The main point of attack will be 51% utilizing several botnets and a pool.

Needlessss to say the DGC pools will be DDoS'd into oblivion to reduce the hash rate below 500M/s.


The second point of attack that is just as lethal that I haven't used on a chain in a while will be a modified version of that genius kid Artforz time travel exploit. As my old nemesis Coinhunter would say, time for me to channel Artforz (rip), dig up my Teletubbies, put on my Artforz tin foil hat and bring it on.


Time frame to call DGC dead, 7-10 days.


~BCX~

The confession.

Rule #1 - don't post anything you wouldn't feel confident defending in a courtroom.

[FiiNALiZE]

It will take me a couple of days to get a block explorer up and going.


The main point of attack will be 51% utilizing several botnets and a pool.

Needlessss to say the DGC pools will be DDoS'd into oblivion to reduce the hash rate below 500M/s.


The second point of attack that is just as lethal that I haven't used on a chain in a while will be a modified version of that genius kid Artforz time travel exploit. As my old nemesis Coinhunter would say, time for me to channel Artforz (rip), dig up my Teletubbies, put on my Artforz tin foil hat and bring it on.


Time frame to call DGC dead, 7-10 days.


~BCX~

The confession.

Rule #1 - don't post anything you wouldn't feel confident defending in a courtroom.

Unfortunately I don't think there are any laws yet regulating cryptocurrency.

However, DDoS'ing any website is considered illegal in many countries.

[arlington]

if the DGC dev really challenge it, DGC will soon be killed for sure

[mastadonballs]

true fear is to be instilled.

BCX's will is determined.

glhf everyone.

now everyone on this forum knows one fact from this fiasco: Don't fuck with BitcoinEXpress. 

[r32godzilla]

Whats the point of all this? Dgc is a great new coin, let it flourish. Whats with all the penis waving?! Listen to Master Yoda...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFnFr-DOPf8

[BitcoinFX]

I openly invite you to try your best with DGC.  

When a DEV openly request such an action it is no longer an attack, but a simple public service.

This is going to be a first though, I'm going to have to build a working block explorer to kill it.

baritus, are you still feeling like you want your chain stress tested?


~BCX~

Please do something more constructive with your time.

Breaking stuff is easy. Go and be creative instead or build something for good.

[r32godzilla]

Please do something more constructive with your time.

Breaking stuff is easy. Go and be creative instead or build something for good.

Shouldn't you be saying that your DEV baritus, who issued the original challenege in the first place?

All he needs to do is simply come in here and state for the record he withdraws his original challenge to kill his coin.

That's all.


~BCX~

Maybe you should join us and Baritus and use your powers for good instead of evil 

Peace out bro

[LosingAlpha]

Please do something more constructive with your time.

Breaking stuff is easy. Go and be creative instead or build something for good.

Shouldn't you be saying that your DEV baritus, who issued the original challenege in the first place?

All he needs to do is simply come in here and state for the record he withdraws his original challenge to kill his coin.

That's all.


~BCX~

I don't think you quite appreciate what's going on here man, I'm trying to help you.

If anybody attacks DGC in the next few weeks, it's your door they're going to come knocking on. You've dug a pretty deep hole for yourself already, do yourself a favor and stop digging.

[broken_pixel]

I think BCX has small penis syndrome and likes flashing huge epeen around.

[MashRinx]

Shouldn't you be saying that your DEV baritus, who issued the original challenege in the first place?

All he needs to do is simply come in here and state for the record he withdraws his original challenge to kill his coin.

That's all.


~BCX~

The way I read it, baritus made the statement to the OP of the thread he posted that comment in.  He used the word 'you', meaning the OP.  I would think that if he meant to open it up to anyone, he would have stated:

What baritus did NOT say: I openly invite anyone to try their best with DGC.

I think he was calling the bluff the OP who attacked a coin with what I hear was < 3 Mhash at the time, not everyone who would stumble upon that post.

[r32godzilla]

Bcx read ya PM. Cheers 

[baritus]

I was referring to the OP's(who had 2 posts) supposed group of powerful friends and himself as "you".

No one else was threatening anything, so it wouldn't apply to them, by common sense.

MashRinx, I said "you", not "anyone".

[mm8000]

RICO Act?

[mullick]

I was referring to the OP's(who had 2 posts) supposed group of powerful friends and himself as "you".

No one else was threatening anything, so it wouldn't apply to them, by common sense.

MashRinx, I said "you", not "anyone".

Bitcoin express do us all a favor and kill off DGC.

Bartibus your incompetence astounds me. Your ego is out of control. Why would you openly invite ANYONE to attack DGC?

If you think the person who killed PWC is not capable of killing DGC think again. DGC can and thanks to you probably will be 51%ed If I had the hashrate I would put your ego in check myself

Edit: attack may have been fake but It could have just as easily been real

[MashRinx]

I was referring to the OP's(who had 2 posts) supposed group of powerful friends and himself as "you".

No one else was threatening anything, so it wouldn't apply to them, by common sense.

MashRinx, I said "you", not "anyone".

baritus, re-read the post from me you are quoting.  I said the exact same thing you are saying and said that's what you WOULD have said if you intended to mean anyone beyond just the OP.  I will also clarify within that quote box so it is not misconstrued by others as well.

[mullick]

I was referring to the OP's(who had 2 posts) supposed group of powerful friends and himself as "you".

No one else was threatening anything, so it wouldn't apply to them, by common sense.

MashRinx, I said "you", not "anyone".

baritus, re-read the post from me you are quoting.  I said the exact same thing you are saying and said that's what you WOULD have said if you intended to mean anyone beyond just the OP.  I will also clarify within that quote box so it is not misconstrued by others as well.

But openly welcoming anyone to attack shows he believes it cant be. Which is just hilarious

[baritus]

I did not welcome anyone to attack. I welcomed a guy who is bragging about taking down a coin with around 2.7 mh/s total hashpower.

[Badabing]

Just to inform everybody , Big Vern found nothing wrong with pwc and powercoin is back on trading on Cryptsy now.

[mullick]

I did not welcome anyone to attack. I welcomed a guy who is bragging about taking down a coin with around 2.7 mh/s total hashpower.

Yes lets welcome someone who may or may not have access to 1Gh of hashing power to kill the coin you produced. Which many people invested in. Playing games with other peoples money is not something a "developer" should do

[r32godzilla]

I did not welcome anyone to attack. I welcomed a guy who is bragging about taking down a coin with around 2.7 mh/s total hashpower.

Yes lets welcome someone who may or may not have access to 1Gh of hashing power to kill the coin you produced. Which many people invested in. Playing games with other peoples money is not something a "developer" should do

Maybe all this hoohaa just added to DGC's value? 

[baritus]

I did not welcome anyone to attack. I welcomed a guy who is bragging about taking down a coin with around 2.7 mh/s total hashpower.

Yes lets welcome someone who may or may not have access to 1Gh of hashing power to kill the coin you produced. Which many people invested in. Playing games with other peoples money is not something a "developer" should do

Who are you? God?

A developer does whatever the hell a developer wants to do like any other human.

[Hydroponica]

Just to inform everybody , Big Vern found nothing wrong with pwc and powercoin is back on trading on Cryptsy now.

So, does this mean all this whohaa started, because of some dick, with photoshop? 

[baritus]

Just to inform everybody , Big Vern found nothing wrong with pwc and powercoin is back on trading on Cryptsy now.

So, does this mean all this whohaa started, because of some dick, with photoshop? 

Good advertising though.

[R-T-B]

Just to inform everybody , Big Vern found nothing wrong with pwc and powercoin is back on trading on Cryptsy now.

So, does this mean all this whohaa started, because of some dick, with photoshop? 

Pretty much.  I guess we have too many sheep just believing everything they read without investigation here.

[nearmiss]

I did not welcome anyone to attack. I welcomed a guy who is bragging about taking down a coin with around 2.7 mh/s total hashpower.

Yes lets welcome someone who may or may not have access to 1Gh of hashing power to kill the coin you produced. Which many people invested in. Playing games with other peoples money is not something a "developer" should do

Who are you? God?

A developer does whatever the hell a developer wants to do like any other human.

Whether or not PWC was 51%'d, or these guys could ever do it to DGC (or were ever planning to), to me this is pretty telling.  I want to see DGC succeed as much as the next guy, its by far my most successful pool, but man, baritus, your really not coming across well through all this (imo).  Perhaps you just don't care, and thats your choice, but it reflects on your coin too.

I'll continue to support DGC as I have, for the time being, but I just don't get any of this BS, or the responses to it.   Do what you like, as you said, I guess....

[GSnak]

Protip: When DDoSing private servers

1.) Get the pool op's permission to participate in this ... "test"

or

2.) Don't post it on public forums you're doing it


That said, I wholeheartedly welcome this verification of DGC's heartiness. If it fails, RIP. If it survives, may it enjoy it's 1000 year reign.

[digitalindustry]

I openly invite you to try your best with DGC. 

When a DEV openly request such an action it is no longer an attack, but a simple public service.

This is going to be a first though, I'm going to have to build a working block explorer to kill it.

baritus, are you still feeling like you want your chain stress tested?


~BCX~

Ok now this just looks like the good old bait and switch gypsy trick - all that an attempted attack is going to do is , make Digitalcoin (my "coin") look like the hero when they survive -

thus making it that much more popular and increasing the # - Vern is involved with Digitalcoin so he will immediately halt trading and they will roll back the BC or fork it with Checkpoint - so you will gain 0 -

just looks like more scams to me.

but whatever.

you kids play .

[digitalindustry]

You can hate or like BitcoinExpress for what he is or what he does, but if he can do it, others can too.
The fact that he openly talks about it, makes us more aware of the dangers that exist.

You can ban him from Bitcointalk.org but it doesn't change the danger to any low hashrate altcoin at the moment.

If you want to protect your coin against a 51% attack, put your hashrate at it or don't complain.

we need him to help the environment as i said,  much like we need maggots to help turn dead things into usable things - its all a part of nature -

so he is useful - , but in a maggot like way -

can you wait so i can buy or mine some Digitalcoin ? i want to sell on the massive bump its going to get after all the attention .

[markm]

Do none of the recent scamcoins have the time travel fix?

Did litecoin leave it out like bitcoin did, thinking their hash rate is so huge it would never happen to them, and all the scamcoins didn't bother to put it in because they were too stupid to even check what fixes litecoin had not yet implemented oro so crazy they thought they would have litecoin's level of hashing right from the start?

-MarkM-