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Anyone could try to continue this attack. But it will be necessary to take from where the others have left. And the thing is, it is a mess. It will need a lot of work and money to try to make it happens. I do not believe anyone could do it now. If you want big block you will have to choose BCash.
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November 09, 2017, 06:00:45 AM |
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Are you certain this is legit? I havent seen additional sourcing on this yet (no one mentioned it at work) but this is kind of what I expected. I didnt think they would take a stab at it that quickly (and I wonder about the veracity of this quote), but I do feel we have simply kicked the can down the road, so to speak. as long as there is a sizeable party that thinks we should 2x, this is always still on the table, in the form of a BIP. Like the repeal of Obamacare, you basically have infinite time to try, if you have the patience. It will happen, eventually, if it will. since there is profit motive, there will be infinite patience ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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November 09, 2017, 06:05:44 AM |
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~ Are you certain this is legit? I havent seen additional sourcing on this yet (no one mentioned it at work) but this is kind of what I expected. I didnt think they would take a stab at it that quickly (and I wonder about the veracity of this quote), but I do feel we have simply kicked the can down the road, so to speak. as long as there is a sizeable party that thinks we should 2x, this is always still on the table, in the form of a BIP. Like the repeal of Obamacare, you basically have infinite time to try, if you have the patience. It will happen, eventually, if it will. since there is profit motive, there will be infinite patience ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) bitcoin is not a centralized altcoin like ethereum that some one or a small group of people (the developers for example) flip a switch and fork happens or they flip another switch and fork cancels! so far we have this: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-segwit2x/2017-November/000685.htmlwhich is clear enough. the important part is that it is signed by the following people: Mike Belshe, Wences Casares, Jihan Wu, Jeff Garzik, Peter Smith and Erik Voorhees this contains the lead developers and the mining giant bitmain. it means there is a good possibility that fork won't happen since it lost yet another big chunk of its support. but there is still nothing stopping others to fork as bitcoin cash did with a tiny amount of hashrate and no support from community.
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November 09, 2017, 06:11:15 AM |
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It's quite unclear as many have backed out will this be still worthy? and what would be the ROI of investing in segwit2x if it's support base is low?
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November 09, 2017, 06:20:01 AM |
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~ Are you certain this is legit? I havent seen additional sourcing on this yet (no one mentioned it at work) but this is kind of what I expected. I didnt think they would take a stab at it that quickly (and I wonder about the veracity of this quote), but I do feel we have simply kicked the can down the road, so to speak. as long as there is a sizeable party that thinks we should 2x, this is always still on the table, in the form of a BIP. Like the repeal of Obamacare, you basically have infinite time to try, if you have the patience. It will happen, eventually, if it will. since there is profit motive, there will be infinite patience ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) bitcoin is not a centralized altcoin like ethereum that some one or a small group of people (the developers for example) flip a switch and fork happens or they flip another switch and fork cancels! so far we have this: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-segwit2x/2017-November/000685.htmlwhich is clear enough. the important part is that it is signed by the following people: Mike Belshe, Wences Casares, Jihan Wu, Jeff Garzik, Peter Smith and Erik Voorhees this contains the lead developers and the mining giant bitmain. it means there is a good possibility that fork won't happen since it lost yet another big chunk of its support. but there is still nothing stopping others to fork as bitcoin cash did with a tiny amount of hashrate and no support from community. Someone better be writing a movie script. This circus needs to be recorded somehow. Generations from now our children need to know what happened on this day. All I know is that Bitcoin will survive this. Decentralization is a new concept for all of us, we are learning as we go. Noone know what works, time will tell.
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November 09, 2017, 12:41:52 PM |
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Which of the information do we take, some says the fork has been cancel while some says it has not been cancelled. The confusion will not affect bitcoin because is here to rule.
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November 09, 2017, 12:46:58 PM |
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November 09, 2017, 12:52:43 PM |
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meh, before with the support of Jihan Wu this fork could have had a large hashrate but now it should technically drop down to less than 10% and i don't really think anyone is going to go through with the fork with that much hashrate.
although we will never know until the time comes but working with the information we have and the signals, it seems like it is not going to happen for now.
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November 09, 2017, 12:55:23 PM |
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It is a giant fud, they are not going to develop and implement anything because it is not possible, and this fork is never going to happen because it has dissapeared. They said that they are not going to do it, maybe they are going to do it in a few months from now, but i dont see it possible because people didnt wanted to see that fork happening. but lets see what happens, it was probably going to be a good fork. but it good cancelled.
Literally everyone can just fork, it's not like they need permission from anyone, and cancel a fork because "not enough people want it".
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November 09, 2017, 12:57:26 PM |
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Was this fork really ever on the cards or was it simply a marketing ploy designed to pump the price?
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November 09, 2017, 01:07:40 PM |
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B2X investors lost 90% . are you blind?cannot see this?
Possible risk when dealing with futures and CST's. Might even end up being 100%, not just 90% One could assume you didn't read the terms and conditions or know what you were doing. today, b2x is zero value. the b2x miner will be happy to donate any qty coins to team.
I thought it was investors, now it's suddenly miners. Why would someone who lost their shit on BT2/B2X futures be happy about a shitty gpu mining fork? They don't even stand to benefit from it. so many investors don't know the difference. now they lost all. open you shit eyes. I have an eternally relevant 16th century proverb for the poor folks Don't count your chickens before they hatch
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November 09, 2017, 01:15:59 PM |
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Was this fork really ever on the cards or was it simply a marketing ploy designed to pump the price?
Now that's an interesting conspiracy theory ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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November 09, 2017, 01:18:03 PM |
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November 09, 2017, 01:35:52 PM |
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This is just crazy. One day they say its gonna stop, then in another they say it's gonna push through. Its as if its a battle. It will benefit the miners but it may not be beneficial to all. Whatever is the decision, we're gonna be dealing with the outcome. We'll just wait for it to push through then.
I think it was already stopped and news about it going through is from those who invested on it and just wants to at least get back part of their investments. This kind of scenario is a good thing at least not that much of people will invest on a fork right away more people are now aware that Forks has more risk than ICO.
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November 09, 2017, 01:48:33 PM |
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So guys we need clear situation what is going on. I really want that for to see what sollution is better an i bilive that better option will winn in longer time. 2x or not 2x. 2x will put preasure at LN improvement ext. That is why I am pro fork solution.
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November 09, 2017, 01:57:48 PM |
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2x will put preasure at LN improvement ext.
How so? So guys we need clear situation what is going on.
Let's take a look, currently the following pools have stopped signaling for 2x: ViaBTC (11%), 58Coin (7.5%), F2P (8.75%), Kano (1%), Slush (7%), combining for 35.25% of the global hashrate. With Bitmain (or rather Jihan) being cosigner of the initial email, we can expect another ~18% to be added soon (Antpool), bringing to total to 53.25%, meaning 2x has less than 50% mining support/signaling at that point.
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November 09, 2017, 02:10:05 PM |
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I'm sorry, i don't understand. I've just read that segwit2x was cancelled!
Have they changed their mind yet?
I can know for sure that the fork will happen soon?
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November 12, 2017, 09:57:50 AM |
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November 12, 2017, 10:06:07 AM |
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to be honest, I do not think that this will happen Even if the unknown player has a 30 percent capacity
nobody wants to split a big ecosystem
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November 12, 2017, 10:10:27 AM |
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I think that this might be a trick to force exchanges into handing out 2x stake coins, in a motion to give out a financial incentive for the release of a 2x coin. Under current standards, and after watching the releae of bitcoin gold be pushed further away than the developer's own set deadline... Perhaps they think it'd be accepted.
Bitcoin gold announced it'd be released later with a premine too, perhaps the people still in support of 2x are looking tot est market interest before a full scale release.
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