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November 10, 2017, 02:32:21 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?
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November 10, 2017, 03:38:06 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

you can use raw transaction command line to create an invalid transaction, it will be rejected by miner. I suppose.
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November 10, 2017, 03:53:48 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Best to do this on testnet.
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November 10, 2017, 03:55:22 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Go through where?

Any transaction that will be relayed by nodes could be confirmed.  If it is invalid, then nodes won't accept or relay it.  If it is valid, then miners might confirm it.

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November 10, 2017, 04:30:04 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Best to do this on testnet.

but i need it to go the the normal blockchain
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November 10, 2017, 04:31:32 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Define fake.
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November 10, 2017, 04:39:12 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Go through where?

Any transaction that will be relayed by nodes could be confirmed.  If it is invalid, then nodes won't accept or relay it.  If it is valid, then miners might confirm it.


so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real, how can i do that?
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November 10, 2017, 04:46:50 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Go through where?

Any transaction that will be relayed by nodes could be confirmed.  If it is invalid, then nodes won't accept or relay it.  If it is valid, then miners might confirm it.


so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real, how can i do that?

A valid transaction with zero transaction fee will probably sit around in the mempool for a long time. I don't think there's any way to guarantee that it won't get confirmed eventually (last 30 days mempool, see Oct 26).
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November 10, 2017, 04:57:45 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Best to do this on testnet.

but i need it to go the the normal blockchain

Then you need it to confirm.

If it is in the blockchain, then it is confirmed.  If it is not in the blockchain, then it is not confirmed.

That's what the word "confirm" means.

so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough . . .
Go through where?
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough . . .

Go through where?

Any transaction that will go "through the bitcoin network" is a transaction that miners can confirm.  There is no way to guarantee that a miner won't confirm it.

Any transaction that is guaranteed not to confirm, will not go "through the bitcoin network".  That is how bitcoin works.

You'll need to explain what you are trying to do. It might not be possible.

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November 10, 2017, 05:06:24 PM
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Why u should do so ? i remember last year someone did the same to me and scammed me in almost 500$, you should not do that mate

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November 10, 2017, 05:40:01 PM
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Why u should do so ? i remember last year someone did the same to me and scammed me in almost 500$, you should not do that mate

i am not planing on scamming anyone
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November 10, 2017, 05:45:15 PM
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Why u should do so ? i remember last year someone did the same to me and scammed me in almost 500$, you should not do that mate

A bit of cross-talk here. As user DannyHamilton has explained, it is not possible for a "fake transaction" to be confirmed on the blockchain. That's the whole purpose of the blockchain and that is precisely why it is designed the way it is - so that fake, invalid, fraudulent, malformed, double-spend and any other kind of transaction, except a valid Bitcoin transaction, cannot be added into the blockchain.
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November 10, 2017, 06:02:03 PM
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Enlighten me ,for what it's transace need? Actually sounds like cheating people.
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November 10, 2017, 06:08:03 PM
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Give us more idea on what you will use this.

It smells bad.
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November 11, 2017, 12:04:09 AM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Go through where?

Any transaction that will be relayed by nodes could be confirmed.  If it is invalid, then nodes won't accept or relay it.  If it is valid, then miners might confirm it.


so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real, how can i do that?

A valid transaction with zero transaction fee will probably sit around in the mempool for a long time. I don't think there's any way to guarantee that it won't get confirmed eventually (last 30 days mempool, see Oct 26).

what i an saying is that it will send fake btc and it wont get confirmed because they are fake if it gets confirmed idc but they proboly wont
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November 11, 2017, 02:04:54 AM
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You can't create a fake transaction, this is the beauty of bitcoin, it is mathematically verifiable. If you mean double spending, then you will have a hard time doing this.
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November 11, 2017, 10:48:21 AM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

Best to do this on testnet.

but i need it to go the the normal blockchain

Then you need it to confirm.

If it is in the blockchain, then it is confirmed.  If it is not in the blockchain, then it is not confirmed.

That's what the word "confirm" means.

so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough . . .
Go through where?
so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough . . .

Go through where?

Any transaction that will go "through the bitcoin network" is a transaction that miners can confirm.  There is no way to guarantee that a miner won't confirm it.

Any transaction that is guaranteed not to confirm, will not go "through the bitcoin network".  That is how bitcoin works.

You'll need to explain what you are trying to do. It might not be possible.


i dont care if it gets saved in the blockchain i just want it to count like if i send it to an adress it will show up but because its fake it will just disappier because its invalid
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November 11, 2017, 11:16:45 AM
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i dont care if it gets saved in the blockchain i just want it to count like if i send it to an adress it will show up but because its fake it will just disappier because its invalid

This is not possible.

Any transaction that will go "through the bitcoin network" and "show up" is a transaction that miners can confirm.

Any transaction that is guaranteed not to confirm, will not go "through the bitcoin network" and will not "show up".

The process of "showing up" is identical to the process of being allowed to confirm. So, any transaction that is invalid enough that it can't "confirm" is also invalid enough that it can't "show up".

That is how bitcoin works.

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November 13, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?
you can do this on testnet.

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November 14, 2017, 06:28:26 PM
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so i want to create a fake transaction 1 that will go trough but will not get confiremd because its not real how can i do that?

People like you are the reason we need a trustless payment system like Bitcoin. The sense of BTC is to not having to trust someone in order to get a payment done.
If it would be possible to create a "fake transaction" which shows up.. but then does not "go through".. you would need trust to recieve payments.
So.. if you want to to scam people write an email telling them you send them 1 Million $ via mail if they send you 100 bucks via sepa,...
But don't even try to trick someone like this with btc payments. It just doesn't work.
I think printing money from your home printer is more of a "business" which suites you..

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