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June 20, 2013, 06:44:28 AM |
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Just an idea comes to mind. If you want to sell batch 4. You'll need to be at market price. Bitfury $ 18 / Ghs KNC $ 20 / Ghs
Teorical Batch 4 66Ghs Avalon $ 1,320 Batch 4 88Ghs Avalon $ 1,760
10000 chips = 78000$ = 41 Avalon 66Ghs + 2 Modules 41*1320=54120 10000 chips = 78000$ = 31 Avalon 88Ghs + 1 Modules 31*1760=54560
If they sell avalon Batch 4 will fuck to every buyer of chips.
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June 20, 2013, 07:06:16 AM |
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They'd be able to charge much more. Both bitfury and KNC are future preorders with no proof. He is saying they'd be in stock like erupter blades when sold, if sold, if made, if created.
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June 20, 2013, 07:11:27 AM |
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They'd be able to charge much more. Both bitfury and KNC are future preorders with no proof. He is saying they'd be in stock like erupter blades when sold, if sold, if made, if created.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5lK7ybz.png&t=665&c=wPBu1E9yMPkhaA) found on Avalon's support website when you create a ticket. http://support.avalon-asic.com/support/tickets/new
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titomane
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June 20, 2013, 07:12:33 AM |
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They'd be able to charge much more. Both bitfury and KNC are future preorders with no proof. He is saying they'd be in stock like erupter blades when sold, if sold, if made, if created.
You are an experienced user +800 post. You know what is the difficulty, ROI etc. .. Today is a price, tomorrow less and so on. The market price in August-September will be much worse. That if there are always fools who let rip. See Asic 10ghs/50btc Blades. But every day there are fewer
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June 20, 2013, 07:14:50 AM |
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They'd be able to charge much more. Both bitfury and KNC are future preorders with no proof. He is saying they'd be in stock like erupter blades when sold, if sold, if made, if created.
You are an experienced user +800 post. You know what is the difficulty, ROI etc. .. So are you. And so you're aware that unit price and ROI aren't locked together. Market price decides what they want to pay for it, even if predictions suggest it won't ROI.
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June 20, 2013, 07:16:22 AM |
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They'd be able to charge much more. Both bitfury and KNC are future preorders with no proof. He is saying they'd be in stock like erupter blades when sold, if sold, if made, if created.
You are an experienced user +800 post. You know what is the difficulty, ROI etc. .. So are you. And so you're aware that unit price and ROI aren't locked together. Market price decides what they want to pay for it, even if predictions suggest it won't ROI. The market price in August-September will be much worse. That if there are always fools who let rip. See Asic 10ghs/50btc Blades. But every day there are fewer
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June 20, 2013, 08:33:58 AM |
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They'd be able to charge much more. Both bitfury and KNC are future preorders with no proof. He is saying they'd be in stock like erupter blades when sold, if sold, if made, if created.
You are an experienced user +800 post. You know what is the difficulty, ROI etc. .. Today is a price, tomorrow less and so on. The market price in August-September will be much worse. That if there are always fools who let rip. See Asic 10ghs/50btc Blades. But every day there are fewer Awkward.... I think dogie actually sells the ASICMiner blades. (or was it the USB versions?) In either case, it is no longer profitable [for the miner] to sell Avalon Batch 4 at 75BTC @ 70 Gh/s. If Batch 4 is not significantly higher clocked it would be a waste of time (or just unprofitable) to buy it for that many BTC. The price likely has to come down to anywhere from 25BTC to 35BTC. Current resold (Gen 1) Avalons are coming down in price at the BitCoinTalk Marketplace. People have been trying to sell them at 250 BTC and have largely failed. They are now barely drawing any interest at 90 BTC. (except yantis who is crazily buying them up at insanely bloated prices....so sell yours to him if you are willing to make a buck off him)
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June 20, 2013, 08:36:00 AM |
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even the fool people will end sooner or later, they should aim to lower their price, or no one will buy from them next time
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June 20, 2013, 08:56:59 AM |
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even the fool people will end sooner or later, they should aim to lower their price, or no one will buy from them next time
+11111 But if you do this, kill chip clients. A large portion of the community will hate. If 70btc sold only buy blind. If sold at market price. Selling 780BTC chips. It will be the biggest scam in the world made BTC.
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June 20, 2013, 10:31:34 AM |
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Oh the trolls. Everyone said B3 would never sell at 72btc... ah look it sold out.
Everyone says "oh it was 70 no one will buy b4". It will sell it. Why would people say otherwise? Because they have a vested interest. Either they get cheaper units, or less competition for units.
This isn't fucking difficult to understand.
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June 20, 2013, 10:38:04 AM |
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wished I had ordered during Batch 1. "knocking head"
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June 20, 2013, 10:44:05 AM |
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Just to clarify, these are not pictures of Avalon's "Facility". These are just pics of different equipment used in the process. Avalon simply subcontracts all their work out to some facility that specializes in this kind of work.
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June 20, 2013, 10:51:59 AM |
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I love to see underpaid Chinese at work. Just hope they ship fast.
As opposed to seeing ZERO jobs in the US because they were outsourced to China?
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titomane
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June 20, 2013, 10:57:28 AM |
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Oh the trolls. Everyone said B3 would never sell at 72btc... ah look it sold out.
Everyone says "oh it was 70 no one will buy b4". It will sell it. Why would people say otherwise? Because they have a vested interest. Either they get cheaper units, or less competition for units.
This isn't fucking difficult to understand.
If you accuse someone of troll. Use quote. Do not throw accusations on the air. Specifies which user's are spitting. By the way ask someone Batch3 own. If they are going to repay the investment.
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June 20, 2013, 10:59:08 AM |
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Just to clarify, these are not pictures of Avalon's "Facility". These are just pics of different equipment used in the process. Avalon simply subcontracts all their work out to some facility that specializes in this kind of work.
Umm it's specifically titled on BitSyncom's Imgur account which I've lined to in the OP; "Avalon's New Facility", by their own words, it is...
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June 20, 2013, 10:59:49 AM |
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Oh the trolls. Everyone said B3 would never sell at 72btc... ah look it sold out.
Everyone says "oh it was 70 no one will buy b4". It will sell it. Why would people say otherwise? Because they have a vested interest. Either they get cheaper units, or less competition for units.
This isn't fucking difficult to understand.
They "sold" because people lost their heads. There were no options available (unless you consider BFL an option way back then); I wasn't against it either, it funds Avalon next steps. I highly doubt the situation will repeat.
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QuantumQrack
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June 20, 2013, 11:08:16 AM |
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Just to clarify, these are not pictures of Avalon's "Facility". These are just pics of different equipment used in the process. Avalon simply subcontracts all their work out to some facility that specializes in this kind of work.
Umm it's specifically titled on BitSyncom's Imgur account which I've lined to in the OP; "Avalon's New Facility", by their own words, it is... Are you trying to troll everybody with this bullshit? You really think Avalon owns that building, all the equipment, and has all those employees on Avalon payroll? LOL, fuck.
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June 20, 2013, 11:09:57 AM |
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Just to clarify, these are not pictures of Avalon's "Facility". These are just pics of different equipment used in the process. Avalon simply subcontracts all their work out to some facility that specializes in this kind of work.
Umm it's specifically titled on BitSyncom's Imgur account which I've lined to in the OP; "Avalon's New Facility", by their own words, it is... Are you trying to troll everybody with this bullshit? You really think Avalon owns that building, all the equipment, and has all those employees on Avalon payroll? LOL, fuck. No dumbass, I'm just repeating the same title they used, click a link, see for yourself and stop being so quick to bitch...
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QuantumQrack
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June 20, 2013, 11:13:47 AM |
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Just to clarify, these are not pictures of Avalon's "Facility". These are just pics of different equipment used in the process. Avalon simply subcontracts all their work out to some facility that specializes in this kind of work.
Umm it's specifically titled on BitSyncom's Imgur account which I've lined to in the OP; "Avalon's New Facility", by their own words, it is... Are you trying to troll everybody with this bullshit? You really think Avalon owns that building, all the equipment, and has all those employees on Avalon payroll? LOL, fuck. No dumbass, I'm just repeating the same title they used, click a link, see for yourself and stop being so quick to bitch... Their title is misleading, hence my first post in the thread. And you just repeat it like a fucking parrot.
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June 20, 2013, 11:16:16 AM Last edit: June 20, 2013, 12:28:46 PM by Bitcoinorama |
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Just to clarify, these are not pictures of Avalon's "Facility". These are just pics of different equipment used in the process. Avalon simply subcontracts all their work out to some facility that specializes in this kind of work.
Umm it's specifically titled on BitSyncom's Imgur account which I've lined to in the OP; "Avalon's New Facility", by their own words, it is... Are you trying to troll everybody with this bullshit? You really think Avalon owns that building, all the equipment, and has all those employees on Avalon payroll? LOL, fuck. No dumbass, I'm just repeating the same title they used, click a link, see for yourself and stop being so quick to bitch... Their title is misleading, hence my first post in the thread. And you just repeat it like a fucking parrot. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) What with their email being newsworthy to those vested and the community at large? Yes I repeated what they sent by email moments before, as I created the thread, obviously!
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