Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images

[Ross.Thoms27]

By popular demand, newbies can now pay to have some of their restrictions lifted. If you pay the fee, you become a Copper Member, and you can post images. That's the main point of this: allowing newbies to post images. Additionally (and these might change depending on how things go), Copper Members currently have these bonuses:

- Some of the same permissions as Member-rank members, such as reduced signature styling restrictions. (But none of the PM-related restrictions are currently lifted, such as the style limit or per-hour PM limit.)
- Your "you must wait ____ seconds between ___" counter is reduced by 75%. So if you're naturally of Newbie rank, you only have to wait 360-75% = 90 seconds.

If you paid an "evil IP" registration fee, then whatever you paid (in BTC terms) is subtracted from the upgrade fee. If you paid a registration fee a long time ago, you might even get a free Copper Membership due to the increase in BTC price. Just visit the link at the bottom of this post to check whether you have it already.

I am aware that for most people the benefits of this membership are pretty lame. This membership is only intended to fill a specific niche; if you don't need it, don't buy it. It is not intended to be the lower-cost Donator/VIP alternative which I've talked about before as a possibility.

I wrote the system so that I can easily add additional paid memberships in the future, but I might not ever do so. Not sure.

You can buy it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

Hello good day sir, i sent you a private message about the membership. Thank you.

[Searing]

Well, I tried to 'quote' a reply and was not allowed to. But anyway, as an 'aside' I've seen Legendary Members with this copper membership...so I assume

it was just done as a way to flag a donation and for no other real reason. ie ..contribute to the Bitcointalk fund/cause as it were?

anyway, thoughts on this, if it is insane/just silly/or for the above I want to contribute some BTC to Bitcointalk reasons mentioned above.

thanks

brad

[Findingnemo]

^ I don't see that theymos need a donation in that small amount,Maybe he is in need of donation to bring new forum software to get completed but these kind of donation will not going to help that.

The reason reason behind why even legendary members are purchasing this membership is that they thing it is like a special rank because we have a title as Copper member under our profile which may give them special feeling in this forum,such a pathetic thought.

[yuria3]

Available paid memberships:

Copper - 0.00649900 BTC: Allows you to post images even if you are a newbie, reduces the time-between-actions limit, and provides some of the same benefits as being of natural Member rank.
You have paid a total of 0.00025776 BTC. This is reflected in the above prices. (To get the normal price, add this amount to the above prices.)


May I ask how much should I pay to get the copper member status? Just to make sure I transfer the right amount.

[efrenbilantok]

Available paid memberships:

Copper - 0.00649900 BTC: Allows you to post images even if you are a newbie, reduces the time-between-actions limit, and provides some of the same benefits as being of natural Member rank.
You have paid a total of 0.00025776 BTC. This is reflected in the above prices. (To get the normal price, add this amount to the above prices.)


May I ask how much should I pay to get the copper member status? Just to make sure I transfer the right amount.

The current price of copper membership is 0.00675676 BTC and you already paid 0.00025776 BTC

	0.00675676 BTC (normal price)
-	0.00025776 BTC (How much you already paid)
	______________
=	0.00649900 BTC (Exact amount you need to pay for copper)

[lKSLMNSLKnkndlksnkJ]

Allowing 'newbies' to pay a fee to leapfrog Jr. Members in signature and image rights is proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that the merit system on Bitcointalk.org is broken beyond repair.

Broken beyond repair.  Period.

Smashed and never to regain the original glory or intention.   With the explosion in the number of users on BTT in recent months/years, systems like the Merit one needed changes a long time ago to prevent what has happened today.  Now it is too late. 

Ok.  Maybe that's a little harsh, but for crying out loud.

The original intention of the Merit system was to keep spammers from flooding the boards. 

Turns out, the English writing skills of the average BTT user borders on illiterate.  Thus in a purely egalitarian world it is obvious that practically no one would be able to compose insightful enough messages in order to obtain a decent stream of merits.  The massive influx of new members the last couple years is proof of that.

So in a desperate attempt to "prevent good newbies from getting discouraged" BTT decides to take a big dump on all the hard working Jr. Members, some of whom, such as myself, have found obtaining merit here almost impossible.  Well?  What about the good Jr. Members?

Go ahead.  Before you start throwing darts, check some of my post history.  My posts for fulfilling signature requirements are involved and thought provoking, well spoken and easy to read.  You won't find anything interesting in the last two or three weeks as I've taken a break from signatures; and, now with this new development, it puts an even greater strain on existing Jr. Members to rank up - during a time when merits given per post numbers are in a down trend and getting worse on BTT.  Facts are facts.

I'm a Jr. Member with over 1000 posts, yet I still don't have 10 merits.  If the merit system was working, I'd already be at Member rank with the contributions I've made here.  I'm not tooting my horn, I'm only pointing out the low quality in general of the majority of posts here relative to mine.

And now, any spammer in the world can simply pay the fee and immediately begin collecting more bounty rewards than all of the hard working Jr. Members.

I was hesitating on posting this because I know how fiercely some of the senior members here defend everything BTT, but this move is a desperation move, not one designed to improve the quality of the BTT threads.  The BTT admins were unable, at least so far, to tackle the problem of spam effectively here.  All the recent moves are after the fact reactions to intractable problems and have damaged the moral of many of the dedicated Jr. Members here, not to mention the cold hard reality that BTT has sold out for profits.

The changes made on the BTT site to control spam will not work.  If the admins here think that monetizing accounts is going to solve their spam problem, then why don't the admins just put a damn price on all the rank levels and let the BTC just roll in?  See the issue yet?

Spam is spam.  Combine that with the fact the average person here has sixth grade level English, and it's starting to appear this site needs a whole new re-write to become relevant again.  Charging an entry fee as the price to do business here is a sign of degradation, not evolution.

I'm opening myself up to the full spectrum of criticisms here in order to get the subject more exposure.    Really.  I'm interested in learning about as many perspectives as I can.

Your thoughts?

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Go ahead.  Before you start throwing darts, check some of my post history.  My posts for fulfilling signature requirements are involved and thought provoking, well spoken and easy to read.  You won't find anything interesting in the last two or three weeks as I've taken a break from signatures;

So technically, as you claim you were writing quality post because of signature, no wonder you have such high numbers of Post with little evidence (merit) to show quality. Well I was interested in reviewing your account to give you the 1merit you needed to rank-up but the qouted sentence above discourage me. I wouldn't like to merit someone who takes a break from contributing positively to the forum just because he has stop participating in signatures.

PS. If I encounter your quality posts in future I'll merit them.

About newbies been able to pay to post Image, I think the account created mainly to post project [ANN] which are newbie were put into consideration before this discussion was made.

[jog16889]

In me opinion the price is expensive,  are ~23€ or ~26$ for posibility to public images...

[TheBeardedBaby]

In me opinion the price is expensive,  are ~23€ or ~26$ for posibility to public images...

If you browse around the forum for a while you'll see that the price is actually low. The membership gives you more privileges, not only posting images but wearing signatures, which some people consider to be a very valuable option. In addition some cool down times are greatly reduced, like sending PMs, reporting posts etc.

[LoyceV]

Go ahead.  Before you start throwing darts, check some of my post history.  My posts for fulfilling signature requirements are involved and thought provoking, well spoken and easy to read.  You won't find anything interesting in the last two or three weeks as I've taken a break from signatures; and, now with this new development, it puts an even greater strain on existing Jr. Members to rank up - during a time when merits given per post numbers are in a down trend and getting worse on BTT.  Facts are facts.

You're proof the Merit system works just fine! This is a forum, not an ATM.
It starts with your nickname, it's clearly created like thousands of other account farmers who don't care about creating a cool personal nickname. Your Location is an altcoin-address, your Website is an altcoin-address, and you didn't set a Bitcoin address on Bitcointalk.
You say you don't post anything when you're not getting paid from your signature, and when I check your posts I see thousands of links to Twitter. I don't think you've contributed anything to this forum.
If you like Twitter so much: go to Twitter! Don't post that spam here.
While you say you have "thought provoking, well spoken" posts, I see 99% spam.

Don't worry about Merit, it does what it should do.

[misterlucky]

I hope that I will be able to add images to post very soon.

[tbct_mt2]

Don't worry about Merit, it does what it should do.

It is unbelievable that around one year and two months after the day merits dropped on us, there are still users complained untirelessly about merit system.
In my opinion, merit system works fine and cool, despite of the fact that if merit system was not created, I would have been a Hero member now.
However, I accepted that fact, the system, and challenge.
Eventually, months or one or two years later, I can become a Senior Member. I have gone one-third to the rank (100 more merits required).
Finally, I will get it.

[UserU]

I hope that I will be able to add images to post very soon.

That's what the Copper membership is for. Or if you don't want to pay, contribute to the forums and earn Merits to unlock the ability.

[JayJuanGee]

I hope that I will be able to add images to post very soon.

That's what the Copper membership is for. Or if you don't want to pay, contribute to the forums and earn Merits to unlock the ability.

hahahahahahahahaha.... No.... misterlucky does not want to actually do any work to write any kind of decent post, instead s/he it would rather wish for an ability to add images in the near future. 

Wishing away, like this:

[anshui]

I made a payment to become a copper member , its not showing anything on the page when i refreshed , 6 confirmations have been completed , still i cannot see or use the services. help

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I made a payment to become a copper member , its not showing anything on the page when i refreshed , 6 confirmations have been completed , still i cannot see or use the services. help

If turely you made the full payment that's 0.00480769 BTC (minus transaction fee) then you shouldn't worry it'll reflect. Try logout and login again. But if the transaction fee was included in the 0.00480769 btc you paid, you still have to pay just the remaining debt for it to reflect. Hope you won't mind posting the transaction ID here for confirmation if you actually made the full payment.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I made a payment to become a copper member , its not showing anything on the page when i refreshed , 6 confirmations have been completed , still i cannot see or use the services. help

If you paid for the required fee alongside the network's transaction fees, you should be able to see this after you visit the paid memberships page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote even just after one confirmation.



Just click on the copper option and click wear, to be able to enjoy the copper membership privileges
The full message on the page reads as follows.

You have purchased a paid membership, and can wear its title using the form below. If your purchased membership has more permissions than your natural membergroup, then you should wear it in order to receive all of its benefits. If your purchased membership has fewer permissions than your natural membergroup, then wearing it is optional; wearing it will never reduce your permissions.

You are not currently wearing any of your paid memberships

[anshui]

5/8/2019, 8:45:19 AM   47eb2425b877e38b48baef536db3660e475721d4e8095595749dcc7759cb6670   for bitcointalk forum membership   0.00480769



Thanks i paid this much with transaction i.d pls check

[anshui]

I paid the said amount and i have mentioned the transaction i.d , i also logout and then login again but i do not see any form . how long will it take

[anshui]

i just realized this much Estimated Value Sent : 0.00440769 , so it means do i have to pay 0.0004 again for it to get activated