I hope you guys won't fall for this BCH joke

[marcbitcoins]

Just saying... BTC is the real thing and will remain... you know it right?

So act wisely and don't fall for this trap: btw don't miss the chance to sell you BCH to get more Bitcoins - I'm sure we will have a bigger pump by Christmas

I think many people did panic selling bitcoin last week to buy bitcoin cash,maybe now they are regretting it already because they are going to lost twice. Sooner or later somebody will ask for help and advice of what will going to do that after selling bitcoin for bitcoin cash in which at this moment is starting to fall down and the most worst scenario if BCH will continue to fall down because bitcoin cash holders are now panicking and start selling their coins back to bitcoin.

[khokon150]

BCH big fall down within a day https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash
When BCH reach 2000$+ this moment i sold my 3 BCH it was perfect time for sell.Now BCH rate $1200
Hold tight for increasing.I think after few days again increase.

[Alterer]

Hi!
This is my first ever post in bitcointalk forum. I was planning to just read the comments about cryptocurrency and try to understand behind of it...
But I saw comments on this subject and many others, I just can't hold my self anymore...

First of all BCH issue on last weekend:
I bought and sold it at right times and earned more than 30% of my capital. In conventional finance world, if you earn 30% over weekend, it's unbelievable crazy. Similar things happens in stock exchanges, especially new company IPOs. But no one says "it's a trap to sell abc" or what so ever. So, please stop saying BCH is shit, or it's trap etc.
In finance world there are always manipulators, big banks, big players who can manipulate and earn more. In cryptocurrency world, the more it gets famous and reknown, the more manipulators will join. At some point, the thing you called "shit, trap" might give biggest profit to investors.

Many people here is promoting Btc with baseless hype, or let say simply like "apple fanboys"; saying "Btc is king and will be king bla bla". But why? Except a few person, there is not much solid explanation...
In finance world "money" always looks for safe place. This is golden rule. No matter how much you love an asset, if money feels it's not safe, it will leave.
Also another rule is profit maximizing. BTC so far did a good job about this; but we all saw how volatile was BTC, when a limited power backed BCH for short time.
So, please keep in mind: if a few big banks, fund management companies, a few rich guys comes together and decides to take down BTC, believe me they can. At some point what you call "weak hands" could be you, because you also want to keep your money safe; or at least maximize your profit short or long term.

What I suggest is, stop giving empty hype to people. Instead, pinpont BTC problems (scaling, block size?) and gather a community power to push developers to come with solutions. Otherwise in future even big banks, rich guys won't be necessary for BTC to be replaced.

Regards

[Kloug]

First of all BCH issue on last weekend:
I bought and sold it at right times and earned more than 30% of my capital. In conventional finance world, if you earn 30% over weekend, it's unbelievable crazy. Similar things happens in stock exchanges, especially new company IPOs. But no one says "it's a trap to sell abc" or what so ever. So, please stop saying BCH is shit, or it's trap etc.
In finance world there are always manipulators, big banks, big players who can manipulate and earn more. In cryptocurrency world, the more it gets famous and reknown, the more manipulators will join. At some point, the thing you called "shit, trap" might give biggest profit to investors.

What you describe is what altcoins are for, and what happened happens a lot there. Why would you rejoice from an attempt (& maybe partial success) at ruining the BTC brand?

Check the hundreds of altcoins, with some of them you will double (or lose all) your capital in a day. Yes of course it's risky, but guess what, the idiots who bought BCH above 2000 all lost a lot of money as well.

You earned 30% in a weekend, sure, but if this attack had succeeded, you would have had to find other markets, no more money to make in the crypto world that would have lost its icon.

(and you're an asshole)

[Getmon]

Bitcoin Cash may not be a total joke nor a shitcoin, but I am more than sure that what happened just recently was a manipulated pump. There was really no mass movement from Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash. I think it was just a case of selected whales trying to push Bitcoin Cash upward. There was an immediate result of course but what followed was a little bit tragic. More than a $1,000-dip for Bitcoin Cash immediately followed.

[Alterer]

You earned 30% in a weekend, sure, but if this attack had succeeded, you would have had to find other markets, no more money to make in the crypto world that would have lost its icon.

Why do you think we would have had to find other markets? "no more money to make in the crypto world that would have lost its icon." BTC and other currencies are here to survive. That's why it's called decentralized. I suggest you to read and think deeply about what's written on the whitepaper.
BTC and many altcoins will exist. Their prices will change, maybe their unit price will be very low but they will always survive. I can see this fact makes many people unhappy, but you must face it.

If you have a better argument, please post it.  

[Kloug]

Bitcoin Cash may not be a total joke nor a shitcoin, but I am more than sure that what happened just recently was a manipulated pump. There was really no mass movement from Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash.

oh it was manipulated.. but there was mass. Pumping is a trigger, then money calls the mass.

Why do you think we would have had to find other markets? "no more money to make in the crypto world that would have lost its icon." BTC and other currencies are here to survive. That's why it's called decentralized. I suggest you to read and think deeply about what's written on the whitepaper.
BTC and many altcoins will exist. Their prices will change, but they will always survive; this is inevitable. I can see this fact makes many people unhappy, but you must face it.

If you have a better argument, please post it.  

Yeah, I assume you're not doing any long-term investment. Because for that to work, you need the general public, and all they know is "bitcoin". That's a brand that advertises itself.

Short-term investment, for how long will it last? It's like you wanna be a poker player and expect all shit poker players who are learning, to keep coming & feed your wallet. If money doesn't come from new people, then it moves from the pocket of some to others. But that isn't very sustainable.


IF the BCH had taken over, I would have quit. I wouldn't be investing in a coin that has demonstrated that another coin can so simply replace it & ruin the investment. I may still be trading for fun, but I'd do that with much less money.

[MoonJeina]

Just saying... BTC is the real thing and will remain... you know it right?

So act wisely and don't fall for this trap: btw don't miss the chance to sell you BCH to get more Bitcoins - I'm sure we will have a bigger pump by Christmas

Many people are already falling for it and the market is clearly indicating its results too .
Bitcon cash has grown so much in one night that people are stunned and already dumping their bitcoin to get their hands on BCH .
But i will not fall for the trap for sure as BCH is just another altcoin who seeked attention for some period of time , while bitcoin remains seated on the throne.

[Kloug]

Just saying... BTC is the real thing and will remain... you know it right?

So act wisely and don't fall for this trap: btw don't miss the chance to sell you BCH to get more Bitcoins - I'm sure we will have a bigger pump by Christmas

Many people are already falling for it and the market is clearly indicating its results too .
Bitcon cash has grown so much in one night that people are stunned and already dumping their bitcoin to get their hands on BCH .
But i will not fall for the trap for sure as BCH is just another altcoin who seeked attention for some period of time , while bitcoin remains seated on the throne.

You're late, that was 1 day ago.

A few hours ago, the BCH nearly hit below 1000usd. Since that would have meant everyone dumping and the BCH going back to 200 (or less), some bots kept it above 1000, it moved back a little but it's already down again, soon it's over.
Besides, no one sane would invest in a coin capped at 0.5BTC, knowing a whale is gonna dump at any time. People were attracted by an easy buck, and that's not gonna happen again, certainly not until 2500.

[SparrowMano]

I did not buy any, but there was money to be made.

[WOW4U]

No i do not fall for it but i do not understand it myself why it has gone so high in such a little time and why bitcoin has gone so low in such a small time maybe because of the fork but the people who had BCH can sell it now and will get a huge profit.

[Ljanesanti]

Too late. They already did.

Wasted money for just some little pump which is just for them. That is the problem when someone is controlling it. They could really make some moves that will be against you.
Perhaps now they have learned. Next time they wont be a victim and will come out wiser.

As a matter of fact bitcoin is offering chance to those individuals who are not ready to purchase bitcoin. So bitcoin convey another opportunity to purchase bitcoin with a shoddy cost. So I would propose to individuals that stay hold your bitcoin on the grounds that the up and coming focus of bitcoin is to hit a 10,000 USD.

Just keep it and hold it for now. Agree, dont be disturbed or panicked by the sudden changes that had happened or happening in BTC. I am pretty sure and my view will never change that it would give higher values until December so keep it, buy low sell high.

You earned 30% in a weekend, sure, but if this attack had succeeded, you would have had to find other markets, no more money to make in the crypto world that would have lost its icon.

That is the big difference between those who geniunely believed and those who dont. Again and once again history says it all the downturn always had been replaced by a big postive turn. The industry is big and those who exactly knows and has the correct mindset on what is going on will not be affected by this.

[Kloug]

No i do not fall for it but i do not understand it myself why it has gone so high in such a little time and why bitcoin has gone so low in such a small time maybe because of the fork but the people who had BCH can sell it now and will get a huge profit.

Yeah but if I explain it this way, are you still interested?

You put your money in a pot. Everyone does. At one undisclosed time, the last 30% money that was put in, is lost instantly.
Sure you'd be tempted to get in early, but remember that you don't know when you're a loser.

If this sounds a great idea to you, you should check Bitconnect, it's that kind of ponzi scheme where the last ones entering are the big losers.

[burnedbyfees]

Bitcoin Cash may not be a total joke nor a shitcoin, but I am more than sure that what happened just recently was a manipulated pump. There was really no mass movement from Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash.

oh it was manipulated.. but there was mass. Pumping is a trigger, then money calls the mass.

Why do you think we would have had to find other markets? "no more money to make in the crypto world that would have lost its icon." BTC and other currencies are here to survive. That's why it's called decentralized. I suggest you to read and think deeply about what's written on the whitepaper.
BTC and many altcoins will exist. Their prices will change, but they will always survive; this is inevitable. I can see this fact makes many people unhappy, but you must face it.

If you have a better argument, please post it.  

Yeah, I assume you're not doing any long-term investment. Because for that to work, you need the general public, and all they know is "bitcoin". That's a brand that advertises itself.

Short-term investment, for how long will it last? It's like you wanna be a poker player and expect all shit poker players who are learning, to keep coming & feed your wallet. If money doesn't come from new people, then it moves from the pocket of some to others. But that isn't very sustainable.


IF the BCH had taken over, I would have quit. I wouldn't be investing in a coin that has demonstrated that another coin can so simply replace it & ruin the investment. I may still be trading for fun, but I'd do that with much less money.

Exactly how I feel. Had they succeeded with their coup they would have crashed the market, for years, if not for good.

Whales who got in early can still be idiots who don't really see the big picture it seems.

[athanz88]

Just saying... BTC is the real thing and will remain... you know it right?

So act wisely and don't fall for this trap: btw don't miss the chance to sell you BCH to get more Bitcoins - I'm sure we will have a bigger pump by Christmas

Yes, i agree so much with you. Bitcoin is the real thing, we know it. Bitcoin already face many down so this too will be passed by bitcoin.
In my opinion, this is a fishy thing. Suddenly after BCH price increase, many newbie and new account creating topic about how BCH will stand and BTC will fall. I sense this as a play by certain people, who has a big money to make people panic and sells their BTC, and make people buy BCH at this price because this people make a false believe that BCH will stand and replace bitcoin, and hoping that people tricked by they play. I categorized this play the same as scam, but in a better way, but scam is a scam.
Bitcoin is the real thing. There are many coins appear after bitcoin born, but none can stand up to bitcoin's position let alone to replace it. So why do you guys need to believe that BCH will replace bitcoin? that is the question for people who doubt on the bitcoin.
The right thing to do now, in my opinion, to sell your BCH if you buy it at a very lower price before, since the price is higher now, and buy bitcoin by that money, or you can sell it to your fiat currency. And save your bitcoin and wait till it reach the price that you think is right to sell the bitcoin you have.

[orions.belt19]

Just saying... BTC is the real thing and will remain... you know it right?
So act wisely and don't fall for this trap: btw don't miss the chance to sell you BCH to get more Bitcoins - I'm sure we will have a bigger pump by Christmas

Yeah, all the smart bitcoiners know it is an ordinary pump by big whales.
I don't think there is anyone smart bitcoiner that'll risk putting money on BCH unless looking for short time profits, i guess.

Speaking of big whales.  The man behind BCH pump is Roger Ver.  I have read that he has between 100,000-300,000 Bitcoin.  I have faith in the Bitcoin community but with that much capital he wields a great deal of power.  

Since this BCH pump is just controlled by whales, then it's likely to be only temporary and shortlived, and would also be for the benefit of the whales. It's surprising how numerous threads and BCH "supporters" have appeared so suddenly in just a number of days.

Wow, that Roger Ver has a huge amount of bitcoin if that were true. Imagine if makes a dump, even just a portion of what he has. If he was really behind this BCH pump, then there's no doubt he was able to do it with that kind of power.

[Bolt Brownie]

Just saying... BTC is the real thing and will remain... you know it right?

So act wisely and don't fall for this trap: btw don't miss the chance to sell you BCH to get more Bitcoins - I'm sure we will have a bigger pump by Christmas

I think most of us are used to these pump and dump moments. After all bcash is just another altcoin, and it's not because it's on top5 marketcap that we should take these price fluctuation seriously. This was just a pump performed by the Korean market, in Bithumb exchange, and now it's being dumped for profit. Bitcoin has scalability problems for sure, and they need to be addressed, but don't even think for a moment that BCH will ever be the solution for that. It just won't happen, so don't be fooled.

[blockman]

Just saying... BTC is the real thing and will remain... you know it right?

So act wisely and don't fall for this trap: btw don't miss the chance to sell you BCH to get more Bitcoins - I'm sure we will have a bigger pump by Christmas

Welcoming the come back of bitcoin. I didn't fall for this BCH pump and FOMO's I knew it that it was just a temporal pump and not serious about making this coin great. Rumors are all around the internet and social media platforms yesterday that those tricked investors believed in such jokes by taking those articles that are saying BCH will be now taking over bitcoin. What a nice joke and right now those bought at the peak of BCH probably are now hating themselves for doing Btc>BCH.

[henkcryptotank]

[Bitcoinforeverybody]

Bitcoin Cash may not be a total joke nor a shitcoin, but I am more than sure that what happened just recently was a manipulated pump. There was really no mass movement from Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash.

oh it was manipulated.. but there was mass. Pumping is a trigger, then money calls the mass.

Why do you think we would have had to find other markets? "no more money to make in the crypto world that would have lost its icon." BTC and other currencies are here to survive. That's why it's called decentralized. I suggest you to read and think deeply about what's written on the whitepaper.
BTC and many altcoins will exist. Their prices will change, but they will always survive; this is inevitable. I can see this fact makes many people unhappy, but you must face it.

If you have a better argument, please post it.  

Yeah, I assume you're not doing any long-term investment. Because for that to work, you need the general public, and all they know is "bitcoin". That's a brand that advertises itself.

Short-term investment, for how long will it last? It's like you wanna be a poker player and expect all shit poker players who are learning, to keep coming & feed your wallet. If money doesn't come from new people, then it moves from the pocket of some to others. But that isn't very sustainable.


IF the BCH had taken over, I would have quit. I wouldn't be investing in a coin that has demonstrated that another coin can so simply replace it & ruin the investment. I may still be trading for fun, but I'd do that with much less money.

Exactly how I feel. Had they succeeded with their coup they would have crashed the market, for years, if not for good.

Whales who got in early can still be idiots who don't really see the big picture it seems.

The good news is, BTC might get even stronger out of this attack. What doesn’t kill’s us.... I believe, it’s also the right moment, talk about the BTC and the improvement’s necessary to adapt. At the end of the day, whoever pumped the BCH, a huge hello and thank you, I finally have done the right thing at the right time and made a lot of money, or better, 4 times the BTC I made out of my BCH then expected.