BitSyncom, will all the chip orders ship together?

[seleme]

imagine BFL BUYERS , THEY WAITED FOR A YEAR,

If someone has a shit for dinner that won't make my shit dinner any better tasting.

[pajak666]

Very classy, hope they will build new facility with our money when they will be releasing gen2 ASIC?
Will they ask for free loanfrom their customers for new facility the same way as they did with batch #3?

[erschiessen]

Very classy, hope they will build new facility with our money when they will be releasing gen2 ASIC?
Will they ask for free loanfrom their customers for new facility the same way as they did with batch #3?

Of course, it seems to be their modus operandi.

[Wayne_Chang]

Very classy, hope they will build new facility with our money when they will be releasing gen2 ASIC?
Will they ask for free loanfrom their customers for new facility the same way as they did with batch #3?

Definitely they will.
Don't know how many people still believe in them.

[Wayne_Chang]

imagine BFL BUYERS , THEY WAITED FOR A YEAR,

If someone has a shit for dinner that won't make my shit dinner any better tasting.

Good point!

[Felipeo]

imagine BFL BUYERS , THEY WAITED FOR A YEAR,

Imagine preorder volume that BFL got in $, and that they must invent ASICs

Avalon that give working Batch #1 and Batch #2 preorder, then preorder for batch3 to give 3+month waiting when they had working technology and facility.
I don't even mention that month after preorders BTC was skyrocketing to +260$ level so leverage for Avalon was huuugggeee...

[ILikeToMine]

Has anyone here got a refund from Avalon as of yet?

[SebastianJu]

Has anyone here got a refund from Avalon as of yet?

No answer to any ticket anymore, so not for refund ticket either.

[ILikeToMine]

Has anyone here got a refund from Avalon as of yet?

No answer to any ticket anymore, so not for refund ticket either.

Well that sucks, do we as buyers have any recourse?

[503guy]

Has anyone here got a refund from Avalon as of yet?

No answer to any ticket anymore, so not for refund ticket either.

Well that sucks, do we as buyers have any recourse?

I thought the terms were pretty upfront prior to buying.

[koob]

I thought the terms were pretty upfront prior to buying.

Same as shipping date.

[ILikeToMine]

Has anyone here got a refund from Avalon as of yet?

No answer to any ticket anymore, so not for refund ticket either.

Well that sucks, do we as buyers have any recourse?

I thought the terms were pretty upfront prior to buying.

They were, but then bitsyncom posted on these forums that they would allow refunds on the 3rd batch because of the seriously long delay.

[mdbssm]

If anyone doesn't like Bitsyncom's terms, it looks like contrary to their original messaging, they are allowing full refunds.
You just need to create a support ticket and put "REFUND" as the type of the ticket.

So far as I know... no one has taken them up on this offer even though some folks have been complaining about the shipment delays for months.

If you are feeling like you need to hedge... you can order the batch of chips and hope they arrive together.

If they don't arrive in your "window" of opportunity, submit a refund request.
Worst case, they either give back your BTC, or they escalate your order.... my guess would be the former.

I guess worst worst case is they don't ship your chips and they don't refund your BTC... but I don't think they could withstand the negative fallout of that option.
Just make sure to order from a wallet you control and can validate.

Has anyone ever requested and got back a refund from Avalon?

we opened refunding option for batch #3 order since it is quite delayed, batch 2 is shipping and should be finished shipping in the end of the month, then batch #3 is to start right after, we are not refunding chip orders since the coins gets sold and is used to pay for chip order at foundry, canceling is not really possible.

but essentially we put in order for chips every week, by early July the chips that were ordered when we opened orders should be out the door by then.

Hi Yifu,

It's been a quiet 'end of the month week' for many batch 2 customers, myself included. It is now Saturday in Beijing, so it looks like my orders and many others are not being shipped this month.

Could you give us a quick update on the batch 2 shipping status?

Many thanks.

[uAboMQOp]

If anyone doesn't like Bitsyncom's terms, it looks like contrary to their original messaging, they are allowing full refunds.
You just need to create a support ticket and put "REFUND" as the type of the ticket.

So far as I know... no one has taken them up on this offer even though some folks have been complaining about the shipment delays for months.

If you are feeling like you need to hedge... you can order the batch of chips and hope they arrive together.

If they don't arrive in your "window" of opportunity, submit a refund request.
Worst case, they either give back your BTC, or they escalate your order.... my guess would be the former.

I guess worst worst case is they don't ship your chips and they don't refund your BTC... but I don't think they could withstand the negative fallout of that option.
Just make sure to order from a wallet you control and can validate.

Has anyone ever requested and got back a refund from Avalon?

we opened refunding option for batch #3 order since it is quite delayed, batch 2 is shipping and should be finished shipping in the end of the month, then batch #3 is to start right after, we are not refunding chip orders since the coins gets sold and is used to pay for chip order at foundry, canceling is not really possible.

but essentially we put in order for chips every week, by early July the chips that were ordered when we opened orders should be out the door by then.

I got broken shipping number (10feb and 11feb orders #110XX, 110XX).
 http://support.avalon-asic.com/support/tickets/1182  http://support.avalon-asic.com/support/tickets/1181


Are you sure you finish shipping before the end of the month?

[Wayne_Chang]

Obviously, finish shipping within this month is mission impossible.
BitSyncom will say, hey guys, I said "should", not "definitely".

[jspielberg]

Obviously, finish shipping within this month is mission impossible.
BitSyncom will say, hey guys, I said "should", not "definitely".

It does seem like a stretch but he did technically say "should" and not "definitely".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240189.msg2562419#msg2562419

I am still holkding out hope that Batch3 orders start shipping in early July.

[Wayne_Chang]

Obviously, finish shipping within this month is mission impossible.
BitSyncom will say, hey guys, I said "should", not "definitely".

It does seem like a stretch but he did technically say "should" and not "definitely".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240189.msg2562419#msg2562419

I am still holkding out hope that Batch3 orders start shipping in early July.

I believe you must disappoint about Batch#3's shipping date.

[eve]

Obviously, finish shipping within this month is mission impossible.
BitSyncom will say, hey guys, I said "should", not "definitely".

It does seem like a stretch but he did technically say "should" and not "definitely".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240189.msg2562419#msg2562419

I am still holkding out hope that Batch3 orders start shipping in early July.

I believe you must disappoint about Batch#3's shipping date.

You guys should have Avalon China Address, go pay them a visit and collect your miner. I am quite sure they are in Beijing/Shanghai or Shenzhen.

[Wayne_Chang]

Obviously, finish shipping within this month is mission impossible.
BitSyncom will say, hey guys, I said "should", not "definitely".

It does seem like a stretch but he did technically say "should" and not "definitely".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240189.msg2562419#msg2562419

I am still holkding out hope that Batch3 orders start shipping in early July.

I believe you must disappoint about Batch#3's shipping date.

You guys should have Avalon China Address, go pay them a visit and collect your miner. I am quite sure they are in Beijing/Shanghai or Shenzhen.

Do you know how big these 3 cities are? You must be kidding.

[SebastianJu]

I believe only the address of yifu's bureau in New York and the shipper address in china is known, not his lab in china.