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November 15, 2017, 04:50:08 AM
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November 15, 2017, 06:02:34 AM
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Remove pay, steem, Iop, kore and nxs.

Add link.

Your under .5 BTC look more like bets but with such a small amount it doesn't matter
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November 15, 2017, 06:09:12 AM
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Remove pay, steem, Iop, kore and nxs.

Add link.

Your under .5 BTC look more like bets but with such a small amount it doesn't matter

I do have decent amount of LINK which is down 50% since I bought  Sad    Steem was 70% higher before forks and KORE was like 100% higher but neither has really recovered.  NXS Sounded so good and used to be $3.50 when I first bought some.  I kept adding to it and average buy in is $1.30 now. Supposed to launch Satellites in 2018.

I should clarify that the others are 1/4- 1/3 BTC each so still decent amount of them.  
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November 15, 2017, 06:29:42 AM
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Damn you are good man, nice list except of IOP , Kore and Nxs
you should add some WTC and ETP imo
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November 15, 2017, 07:15:40 AM
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Damn you are good man, nice list except of IOP , Kore and Nxs
you should add some WTC and ETP imo

LOL, thanks.  I didnt think I was doing that good compared to some.  Ahh I have some WTC and ETP too Smiley 
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November 15, 2017, 08:36:15 AM
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Whatever you do don't sell your Nexus. It will go up way higher then $3.50 next year, especially if they manage to launch the first cube satelite next year.

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November 15, 2017, 10:02:38 AM
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Good portfolio! Being an altcoin junkie as well, even though it doesnt pay off everytime, I like your style! Maybe you should add AE to your portfolio, just my two cents here though. :-)
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November 15, 2017, 10:15:47 AM
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I like that your portfolio is well diversified, you have many tokens and that's great. Only wondering why you would put about 40% of your entire portfolio on Waves, it's quite a big bet in my opinion. Waves has competition as well, such as ETH, which is kinda ahead and will appreciate a lot in 2018 (if the promised protocol upgrades are implemented). Besides that you look quite good me, maybe some of that 40% should go to some "main" coins, don't see you having any BTC/ETH/XRP - looks like you have appetite for risk, if you'd like to hedge a bit your portfolio, buy some BTC it will keep you above water in case the market goes to the south.
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November 15, 2017, 12:13:52 PM
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wow that is certainly a lot of altcoins you have invested in. Did it pay off or would have been better to just hold on to those BTCs taking into consideration that since 3 months ago BTC went from $3000 to almost $7000 ? Sometimes I wonder if alts are not just a waste of time.

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November 15, 2017, 12:28:10 PM
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that is a lot of altcoins! why not focus on a smaller number of them that are rising instead of investing in this many coins and risk missing out on the rises and falls?
in any case i like the fact that you have smaller coins in your list not just the ones that everyone knows about.

also my advice is not to keep this much money on exchanges. you are taking a big risk. the exchange can run away or do what bittrex recently did and close your account and rob you and in that case you lose 15BTC or $100,000+ in a second!

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November 15, 2017, 01:14:48 PM
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LSK and Waves are really strong ones, will be good in the future for sure! I see Lisk rising a lot already, good choice!

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November 15, 2017, 01:31:31 PM
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Not sure what your saying. All of those coins are way down vs bitcoin over the last 3 months.

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November 15, 2017, 01:31:48 PM
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You may think about adding Qtum. It is quite good coin. Most people don't add monero zcash or dash to their lists but I think you should definitely give them chance. These are great coins.

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November 15, 2017, 01:59:27 PM
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You may think about adding Qtum. It is quite good coin. Most people don't add monero zcash or dash to their lists but I think you should definitely give them chance. These are great coins.

I agree, these are great coins, with a lot potential in my opinion. But most of people is probably overturned by dash and zcash 'relatively' high price.. Undecided
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November 15, 2017, 02:05:35 PM
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Not sure what your saying. All of those coins are way down vs bitcoin over the last 3 months.

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November 15, 2017, 02:13:38 PM
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You will regret for not considering Decred.

You have a huge portfolio and I guess it shall fit in (better than a lot of coins you bought IMO). Just take a look in the details: governance, Hybrid PoS + PoW mining, roadmap (Lightning network this month)...

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November 15, 2017, 02:20:28 PM
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You will regret for not considering Decred.

You have a huge portfolio and I guess it shall fit in (better than a lot of coins you bought IMO). Just take a look in the details: governance, Hybrid PoS + PoW mining, roadmap (Lightning network this month)...

Agreed  Cool I'd also consider adding Decred, instead of some coins in your portfolio..Or simply just add them next to others.. Smiley
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November 15, 2017, 02:22:49 PM
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consider; NEO, ZEN, GAS, DCR, KNC, VEN, REQ, ENG, EMC2, XSPEC, WTC, ZRX, VTC, and AEON.

Sorry for making that list grow LOL
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November 15, 2017, 02:37:16 PM
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Damn you are good man, nice list except of IOP , Kore and Nxs
you should add some WTC and ETP imo

LOL, thanks.  I didnt think I was doing that good compared to some.  Ahh I have some WTC and ETP too Smiley 

i do not think kore is a bad idea because it's pump and dump coin,
if we're looking its history we should see the movement every 3 months or around that.
also KMD is a good choice but you need to wait a bit longer,
at least until next year when the atomic swap happen.
other than that everything is good,or basically it's a good time to buy everything,
so nothing to worry about xD
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November 15, 2017, 02:49:29 PM
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You may think about adding Qtum.
QTUM? you mean an altcoin which got accused as a scam coin?

I believe if people already have 15 btc in their pocket, 98% from them will not investing all 15 btc in some altcoins (you know what i mean, right?).

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November 15, 2017, 03:07:26 PM
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Just invest the most in waves, best "low price" coin which will pump up more soon, just invest cause you will find out to late.

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November 15, 2017, 03:11:17 PM
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I would suggest looking into both SHIFT and BISMUS both very promising and a tremendous amount of room for growth, obviously look into both yourself properly before investing but these two could be decent in 2018.
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November 15, 2017, 03:26:46 PM
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I'm surprised NEO is not on that list. I would add it!

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November 15, 2017, 07:45:30 PM
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You will regret for not considering Decred.

You have a huge portfolio and I guess it shall fit in (better than a lot of coins you bought IMO). Just take a look in the details: governance, Hybrid PoS + PoW mining, roadmap (Lightning network this month)...

Agreed  Cool I'd also consider adding Decred, instead of some coins in your portfolio..Or simply just add them next to others.. Smiley

Ahh I did have DCR still have one lol....  I took some profit on it  a while back and havent bought back in.  It is up 31% from what I paid.  I need to buy back into that one eve if just a 1/4 BTC so I dont regret.  

There are a few other big ones I had but sold most of for profit like Monero, Dash and NEO.  I first got NEO at $20 not that long ago.  Then it hit $36 for a minute. 
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November 15, 2017, 07:52:26 PM
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Ouch! Bitcoin has been killing Alts for 5 months now. What makes you think it will change?

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November 15, 2017, 07:57:53 PM
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Just invest the most in waves, best "low price" coin which will pump up more soon, just invest cause you will find out to late.

I also Invest in waves. But also in Lisk.
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November 15, 2017, 08:05:18 PM
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I think the best way will be invest in most promissing coins like waves and ethereum. I recommend you focus on this coins because it can give you huge profit
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November 15, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
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For long term growth you want a token that gives you network rewards.  As the company grows, you are apart of it and get rewarded every quarter.

A coin with upside is Centra.  As more people use their card, the more network rewards every token holder will get because the network reward is a % of what users spend.

Price is low right now since wallet and cards were delayed but on schedule to release/ship in the next couple of months.  KYC process to unlock wallet is occurring now.

US is the most regulated place and hardest to ship cards to and Centra has received money transmitter license in 31 states and working on the rest.  Shows centra will be able to ship to US where many other debit cards cannot.  Will truly be a worldwide card.
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November 15, 2017, 08:26:34 PM
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For me, it's better a really good trade than 5.000 mehs.

In november I have done only one, XZC...90% profit.

Next, moving to SYS, that will do a 2x - 3x in the next 2 months.

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Do not forget to add Minexcoin to this list and you can also invest in several quality ICOs. I think the Guts advertised in the sign will be valued in the future.

Ouch wish I had listened to you on Minex.  Has gone up 100% since you posted this......  I might still buy after seeing its growth and only 3 million coins.  Plus you can get those 5% weekly returns.
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For me, it's better a really good trade than 5.000 mehs.

In november I have done only one, XZC...90% profit.

Next, moving to SYS, that will do a 2x - 3x in the next 2 months.



Hello
would it be possible to tell us how much you have invested in XZC ? and how did you end up investing in this particular coin ? research, luck, etc ? Smiley

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Cross your fingers
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One thing to look out for is whether the atlcoin team already has an existing product or prototype, that will ACTUALLY benefit with exploiting the blockchain for its existing product with new technology.
RoboAdvisor coin is one of them, as well as ICOs like BAT and Raiden.
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Do not forget to add Minexcoin to this list and you can also invest in several quality ICOs. I think the Guts advertised in the sign will be valued in the future.
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February 04, 2018, 01:34:23 PM
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If you have huge dollar to inverse in altcoin,better choose of Ethereum.If you have less amount of dollars to inverse,just choose NEO it's value is just 140$ ,waves,Monero it's value is only 300$.Even you can choose litecoin, it's value is just 156$.All this is lesser than ethereum,for your future you can try any one among this.

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first rule that i use: do not invest in to0 many alt coins. Max 10.
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I invest only in well-studied projects, one of them is SOCIALMEDIA. MARKET. Socialmedia.market is the decentralized ecosystem to discover, create, perform and analyze advertising campaigns with social media influencers across any social network
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February 04, 2018, 04:00:13 PM
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first rule that i use: do not invest in to0 many alt coins. Max 10.


It means, that you have a very strange rule. From a long time been known that the diversification of investments is the most important - the more the better!
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I think if you want altcoin with good prospects, of course ethereum and Neo. Especially ethereum, altcoin which is currently a huge success. The price of the ethereum is relatively stable, many investors from all over the world are joining the ethereum project. With its own platform, ethereum is getting better. Although sometimes there are obstacles because of the number of transactions, but ethereum can still cope and remain one of the top altcoin at this time. You can check it on trusted websites, and see ethereum will occupy the top spot. thank you

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If you have much money try invest on all of them  Grin. Just make less losing I think. Of course you hope your coins will moon but we don't know the future. My opinion if you have a lot of coins it can be help you less your losing risk
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LSK and Waves are really strong ones, will be good in the future for sure! I see Lisk rising a lot already, good choice!

hahaha.
we say both lisk and waves. all is down. best one is taking mth or eth. dont waste your time and mponey for shitcoins.
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waves, neo, ven, eth
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LSK and Waves are really strong ones, will be good in the future for sure! I see Lisk rising a lot already, good choice!

hahaha.
we say both lisk and waves. all is down. best one is taking mth or eth. dont waste your time and mponey for shitcoins.
And that you do not shitkoin, bloated tron or can beginner XVG. I wonder your opinion about monero, nano, stratis. I think that they are promising, you would have replenished your portfolio with such investments.

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Remove pay, steem, Iop, kore and nxs.

Add link.

Your under .5 BTC look more like bets but with such a small amount it doesn't matter

all of ypur advice dopeed %10 price.

the market dumped really badly.
i didnt see anyone who earned in 3 months
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Sounds too good to be true? The Artis Turba ICO is already over and with $5 million in funds the team has already started with the development of the Artis Turba Exchange - and it is expected to be live in June 2018 from where these earnings will be implemented Cool

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I'm surprised NEO is not on that list. I would add it!
I would also add NEO to this list. I think buying NEO now, you can earn very well after a while. But you definitely do not need to invest in one coin, it is better to invest in several coins and such actions reduce the risks.

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In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.
I was asking myself what to do when cryptocurrency goes down and found out that the most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on exchanges right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0
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If that was mine I won't invest on such many altcoins , Instead I will only invest on 2 - 3 altcoins or tokens on any ICO so that I can easily manage it and check the price daily . Investing on too many crypto is not guaranteed to gain profit because not all of them will pump in the future .
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If that was mine I won't invest on such many altcoins , Instead I will only invest on 2 - 3 altcoins or tokens on any ICO so that I can easily manage it and check the price daily . Investing on too many crypto is not guaranteed to gain profit because not all of them will pump in the future .
I don't agree with you, precisely by investing in various ICO's it increasingly increase our profit opportunities, because we don't know which ICO's project will benefit us later, if one of the ICO's fails then the other ICO's can cover it i mean cover the funds that we lose in some ICO's
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Remove pay, steem, Iop, kore and nxs.

Add link.

Your under .5 BTC look more like bets but with such a small amount it doesn't matter

all of ypur advice dopeed %10 price.

the market dumped really badly.
i didnt see anyone who earned in 3 months
as we know most of all coins are down. IMO btc down, altcoin down.
sometimes, when btc up altcoin will follow to up. so u've to be patient before buying a coin

 
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I mean most Icos are really just scams and are just a way of greedy devs to make quick money.  The project I posted above (marinecoin) is actually fari distribution like raiblocks so its worth it to give it a shot.
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Best alts for your portfolio: Peercoin, Litecoin, Ethereum.
Peercoin has now been running for 4 years and with projects like peerassets, peerticker, its development has picked up a lot. Similarly, Litecoin is the silver to bitcoin and has been stable for the last 3 years. The coin provides speedy transactions due to its blockchain of 2.5 minutes. It also has one of the best development teams behind it. Ethereum, being the second most crypto, is the most promisable investment right now. The coin has also shown profit gains by 3700% in the last year. Hence, you can expect much from the coin.
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If you are asking that in which coin you need to invest so in my opinion waves and ripple are coins that could pump a lot in near future, investing in elixir and neo could give you some profit too.
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In addition to the ETH and Neo, I believe in BNB and EOS. Also very reliable and promising tokens.

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My advice for investing on these token :
1. Shivom or omx token i think it will gives good return like gene-chain / DNA. The project similiar to gene chain.
2. Auctus the project similiar to genesis vision unsold token will be burned and it will give similiar return like gvt.
3. Essentia : the project like civic but i think it have more features

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Eth long term you will see slower steady gain these days
Icons and spotting new coins give best return

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In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.
I was asking myself what to do when cryptocurrency goes down and found out that the most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on exchanges right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0
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altcoins to invest are - NEO , FSN by DJ quan , Oyster PRL , polymath (security token) .
these coins can be huge turnout this year .

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Marinecoin is a completely fair crypto coin that will be handed out evenly among paricipants of the ICO to give it true value.  The ICO only requires you to do proof of promotion to be part of the awesome mtc ccommunity.  Have a go at it if you want to be part of something spectacular.  marineco.in  . 2018 is going to be a very exciting year for cryptocurrency  One of the big and upcoming coins is MTC.  MTC is the ticker for marinecoin.  Marinecoin dates back to 2014 but the cryptocurrency world was not ready for it yet and the crypto market overall was stagnant.  Marinecoin is dev-less artificial intelligence cryptocurrency that has low fees and eco-friendly.
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Hi all.3 coins you should definitely consider buying.
1.unify
2.rupx
3.POStoken
All of these coins are under 0.2 $(they were +1$ before)
and now very cheap with low max supply !!!.so if you buy 10-50k of these coins they can be worth more than 50k$ by the end of the year.
All of them are POS.good communities and upcoming features and new exchanges soon to be added.
Read about them,do the math.and think about it.good luck


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altcoins to invest are - NEO , FSN by DJ quan , Oyster PRL , polymath (security token) .
these coins can be huge turnout this year .
I support you with the choice of NEO, maybe in one or two years it will completely replace the Etherium. x6-x7 until the end of the year provided.

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Marinecoin - A free good coin marineco.in for 2018. Just sign up and earn 20,000 MTC by the link marineco.in/ico/.This project marineco.in/ico is potential.I believe it will successregister and you will receive 20,000 tokens. it’s free. They are free but they have a good project, they’re working very hard on an awesome project .sign up right now!!!Payment System in Internet Artificial Intelligence (AI) of Things (IoT). time dilution technology. time dilution technology - artificial intelligence - self sustaining - community - fair distribution - iot.I really like the project marineco.in. It is very potential. Get 20000 MTC free immediately when you register and follows steps.the coin Marinecoin is great coin  because it has a transaction speed many times faster than that of bitcoin, the transaction fee is very cheap, almost zero.You can get 20000 MTC free acquainted with the rules by this link. marineco.in/ICO/.. Join it right now and we expect the price increase on marinecoin.
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Dude we have as many good coins in the market. I would suggest you invest in best ICOs. I would list out the best ICOs i have come across currently. Slit your investment / the bitcoin you have into the below coins /tokens.

DeHedge
PolicyPol
Buyzzshow
Iamhero
Eligma

Their projects are coming up fine in the market gaining good values.
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u should balance alt coins vs bitcoin price fluctuations when  bitcoin is dumping u should start buying alt coins if u can balance alt coins vs bitcoin price u will make profits
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April 17, 2018, 01:43:03 PM
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XLM really shows some potential
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April 17, 2018, 03:06:19 PM
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altcoins to invest are - NEO , FSN by DJ quan , Oyster PRL , polymath (security token) .
these coins can be huge turnout this year .
I agree on Neo and PRL. Would also add to the list: VEN, Zilliqa, EOS, ICX.

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April 17, 2018, 03:18:06 PM
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altcoins to invest are - NEO , FSN by DJ quan , Oyster PRL , polymath (security token) .
these coins can be huge turnout this year .
I agree on Neo and PRL. Would also add to the list: VEN, Zilliqa, EOS, ICX.

PRL is an absolutely shitcoin. There is a lot of worth altcoins to invest rather than PRL? If you know exactly how many PRL is the devs holding and they give away on airdrop, bounty and team members then you will know how risky buying it. It will crash anytime once the dev saw a huge buy order.

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April 19, 2018, 01:14:12 AM
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Tough market for any crypto to boom in currently so if I was looking it would be for something already established such as Marinecoín, .MTC..  They have been busy behind the scenes updating their blockchain and technology since 2013.  Their platform uses artificial intelligence to manage IoT applications developed for the platform.  That provides value for long term success of the project.  Another aspect is they are using time dilution technology to distribute 9 billion coins to a wide diverse community.  Each participant can get 20,000 .MTC. daily.  This fair distribution will form a very dedicated community because everyone has a decent size slice of the pie.  A dedicated community is really what it takes for a coin to succeed.  Instead of a few having the biggest slice the many will have the majority.   More information is available at their website  marineco.ín/ico
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April 26, 2018, 05:26:54 AM
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Check out THUG Coin now while you can and get a bunch now and hold them, they are the hottest currently in the market and fresh as well, check them out on TG or Twitter and participate in their free bounty😊😊
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May 25, 2018, 09:38:30 AM
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in my view, three best coins are worth holding for this year the recent tie-ups and coin development progress alll optimistic the coins are Neo Tron Iota
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May 25, 2018, 09:46:35 AM
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altcoins to invest are - NEO , FSN by DJ quan , Oyster PRL , polymath (security token) .
these coins can be huge turnout this year .
I support you with the choice of NEO, maybe in one or two years it will completely replace the Etherium. x6-x7 until the end of the year provided.
NeO does have good growth in the future, but NEO still can not beat ethereum completely, because investor still likes wthereum, and there will be good news for holders of ethereum
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May 25, 2018, 09:50:31 AM
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Have a look at Powr(leader in the power industry),Modium(Nice logisticts project )Block array(Ven+wtc in one.Also dipped anlot now,good time to buy in

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