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Author Topic: Do not buy the new PMBs called BFMINES issued by Furuknap  (Read 2877 times)
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June 25, 2013, 06:50:32 PM
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He said he did sold those contracts above what I sold ... my price is 0.094 , after my selling,that PAJKA bond ever exceeding this price ,

No, this is another lie and you even provided the evidence yourself. You sold on average 0.09x something, but you sold a lot cheaper than that, which I then sold a bit later:

07.06.2013 07:25   PAJKA.BOND   buy   12   0.07   0.00168   0.84168

13.06.2013 11:24   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.088   0.000176   0.087824
13.06.2013 08:10   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.088   0.000176   0.087824
12.06.2013 20:57   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.088   0.000176   0.087824
12.06.2013 20:55   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.088   0.000176   0.087824
12.06.2013 20:36   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.088   0.000176   0.087824

There's more, though, but I don't really want to post my entire history or even more of my trading history, but at the very least, this is hard, firm evidence that I did sell what I bought from you at a higher price than I paid and that you, once again, is proven to be a liar.

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wow furuknap, don't you have any sense of embarrassment?  who gives a fuck if SOSLOVE is lying or if hes just terrible at english, hes not the one trying to sell a shitty mining security

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June 25, 2013, 08:22:24 PM
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Agreed, this is a horrible investment at the offered price. I thought it was okay at first before I realized it only starts hashing in months.

Actually, 100TH just announced that because the chips are working correctly (and these are the same chips used in my miner) they will start deployment next week.

https://picostocks.com/docs/index/19

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Because of the lower hash rate we will have problems to deliver the full 104TH/s performance in the next weeks. Only 35296 chips are expected to be available for the mine next week. This corresponds to only 70TH/s. We are still waiting for the other packaging company to provide us with the estimation of the date for the completion of packaging.
We expect a delay of 1-2 weeks in launching the mine. We assume the initial launch will include only 70TH/s and few days later additional 34TH/s will be installed.

I don't want to overpromise anything, so I won't adjust the contract, but it is more and more likely that the miner will arrive much sooner than September.

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June 26, 2013, 02:01:08 PM
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wow furuknap, don't you have any sense of embarrassment?  who gives a fuck if SOSLOVE is lying or if hes just terrible at english, hes not the one trying to sell a shitty mining security


First of all ,I am not lied about anything, just Furuknap focus on picking up some small mistakes I have made, Second , Am I really that Bad at English? (Furuknap will be more than happy about it ,because he can take advantage over my poor English). Sad 
Thirdly , Yes, I do not selling anything shitty mining security to the public.....I do not have the incentives to make lie.... Tongue
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June 26, 2013, 04:18:42 PM
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This guy orderd his devices for $20 USD per G/hash but he sell his contracts at $400 per G/hash.

Lies. You have no idea what I paid or what the expenses are. The miner alone, however, is well above $20GH/s so on that alone, you are a liar or at the very best least ignorant.

One month before this man trying to convince me to hold PAJKA bonds, I am glad I have right prediction of what will happen in the future.

Lies. You 'evidence' of me lying is that you read an article where I accurately described what PMBs are. There was nothing in that article that was trying to convince you of holding anything; in fact, you sold based on that article so you should probably thank me.

Thus, I only make 6BTC loss in PAJKA BOND, If I did not listen to him, I could loss half , anyone do not believe me you could going to BTCT.CO to look the past 1 month trend of PAJKA BOND.

Lies. You sold as low as 0.6XX, which was almost half of what you paid. Since then, the price has crashed a whopping 10% at present, with lots of sales happening above that.

But let's examine your claim more accurately.

Some guys in this forum is think I made a wrong decision...I just want to prove here , that I did not lie I have sold all my PAJKA bonds at made a net loss of 5.4 BTC..plus back the dividend I have received is 6.7 BTC.

Never mind , 5btc is the cost to pay for what I have learned .

I have personally loss around 10 BTC on those contracts, what I want to say is the issuers of PMBs are not doing anything wrong ,they just exploit the contracts and take advantage over those people who do not has certain knowledge to analysis what they are buying.

So... Your claim of losing 6BTC is a lie, or, if it is the truth, all the other claims you've made about your losses are lies.

But that's too simple, isn't it? I mean, anyone can confuse 5.5, 6.0, 6.7 in the heat of battle, and the 10BTC can easily include all your bond losses beyond PAJKA too, right?

Let's move on.

Especially, newbies please do not buying anything you do not understand , I hope that you will have a pleasure time within trading BTC stocks and probably makes profit on it,but not wasting your money on it, for those people issued PMBs at this time should be ashamed on themselves as well as who approved it to trade on exchange.

OK, let's look a bit at this.

Currently market price for ASICMINER'S BLADE is cost 50 BTC..it will pay out itself in 145 days.....

My asset is priced cheaper than ASICMINER'S BLADE so according to your analysis, my asset should repay itself faster than 145 days.

This isn't a lie on your end, though, just an example of how insane your analysis are. You tout AM blades as profitable because you own AM shares, yet scorn cheaper priced investments. It's a bit of a weird claim at the very least.

I know BTC will only survive when more and more people will joint to it , I can not let minority of some evil people destroying our community by they take money away from innocent newbies.

You mean, you _want_ newbies to pay BTC 0.005 for mining a megahash when you get a but of the sale but you don't want them to pay 0.004 when you don't get a profit?

I claimed that I do not say PMBs are traps, What I stated is wait util the market totally absorbed the new technology~

Lies.

PMB is god damn sick trap!!!

But let's not stop there, shall we?

Anyway ,this guy called Frunmp seems disappear now, I am still glad I sold all my contracts at 0.94 ,after I sold my contracts, I think no one sold above this price.  

Considering that all trades are public, this would be a rather strange thing to say because it is easily proven as a lie. Maybe... Oh, yes, there it is...

only net loss 5.3 below is my transaction I do not know how to upload picture ...but I am not liar.....if you think you are right then time will tell...

2013-06-07 21:25:34   PAJKA.BOND   sell   16   0.06   0.00192   0.95808
2013-06-07 21:25:33   PAJKA.BOND   sell   4   0.0605   0.000484   0.241516
2013-06-07 21:25:32   PAJKA.BOND   sell   4   0.061   0.000488   0.243512
2013-06-07 21:25:31   PAJKA.BOND   sell   15   0.07   0.0021   1.0479
2013-06-07 21:25:29   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.072   0.000144   0.071856
2013-06-07 21:25:25   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.072   0.000144   0.071856
2013-06-07 21:25:23   PAJKA.BOND   sell   3   0.0721   0.0004326   0.2158674
2013-06-07 21:25:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.073   0.00146   0.72854
2013-06-07 21:25:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   6   0.073001   0.00087601   0.43712998
2013-06-07 21:00:38   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.089631   0.00017926   0.08945173
2013-06-06 21:19:23   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.095   0.0019   0.9481
2013-06-06 21:19:21   PAJKA.BOND   sell   8   0.095   0.00152   0.75848
2013-06-06 11:48:31   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.101   0.00202   1.00798
2013-06-06 06:55:26   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.101   0.000202   0.100798
2013-06-06 04:52:51   PAJKA.BOND   sell   25   0.099   0.00495   2.47005
2013-06-06 04:52:49   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.0991   0.001982   0.989018
2013-06-06 04:52:48   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.099101   0.0001982   0.09890279
2013-06-05 22:38:36   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.106001   0.000212   0.10578899
2013-06-05 18:06:01   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.10897   0.00021794   0.10875206
2013-06-05 04:56:28   PAJKA.BOND   sell   5   0.10897   0.0010897   0.5437603
2013-06-05 01:41:59   PAJKA.BOND   sell   26   0.10897   0.00566644   2.82755356
2013-06-04 00:11:39   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.099   0.00198   0.98802
2013-06-04 00:11:37   PAJKA.BOND   sell   20   0.099   0.00396   1.97604
2013-06-04 00:11:34   PAJKA.BOND   sell   2   0.0991   0.0003964   0.1978036
2013-06-03 23:29:36   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.109498   0.00021899   0.109279
2013-06-03 22:45:04   PAJKA.BOND   buy   2   0.109499   0.00043799   0.21943599
2013-06-03 21:25:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   100   0.102   0.0204   10.1796
2013-06-03 21:25:14   PAJKA.BOND   sell   21   0.102001   0.00428404   2.13773695
2013-06-03 21:25:09   PAJKA.BOND   sell   5   0.1035   0.001035   0.516465
2013-06-03 21:25:05   PAJKA.BOND   sell   25   0.105   0.00525   2.61975
2013-06-03 21:25:01   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.105   0.00021   0.10479
2013-06-03 21:24:56   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.105   0.00021   0.10479
2013-06-03 21:10:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   13   0.1084   0.0028184   1.4063816
2013-06-03 21:10:19   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.1086   0.002172   1.083828
2013-06-03 21:10:18   PAJKA.BOND   sell   4   0.10861   0.00086888   0.43357112
2013-06-03 21:09:42   PAJKA.BOND   sell   9   0.1087   0.0019566   0.9763434
2013-06-03 21:03:39   PAJKA.BOND   sell   21   0.109   0.004578   2.284422
2013-06-03 21:03:35   PAJKA.BOND   sell   9   0.109   0.001962   0.979038
2013-06-03 19:50:47   PAJKA.BOND   sell   40   0.1098   0.008784   4.383216
2013-06-03 19:45:05   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.1098   0.0002196   0.1095804
2013-06-01 22:45:04   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.1099   0.0002198   0.1101198
2013-05-30 22:45:07   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.11   0.00022   0.11022
2013-05-28 22:45:06   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.10901   0.00021802   0.10922802
2013-05-26 22:45:06   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.109989   0.00021997   0.11020897
2013-05-24 22:45:08   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.1099   0.0002198   0.1101198
2013-05-22 22:45:05   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.108987   0.00021797   0.10920497
2013-05-21 10:44:08   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.108989   0.00021797   0.10920697
2013-05-20 12:10:18   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.10899   0.00021798   0.10920798
2013-05-17 22:45:05   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.1049   0.0002098   0.1051098
2013-05-16 06:39:35   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.105   0.00021   0.10521
2013-05-13 21:29:08   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.1059   0.0002118   0.1061118
2013-05-12 00:50:24   PAJKA.BOND   buy   104   0.109998   0.02287958   11.46267158
2013-05-12 00:48:53   PAJKA.BOND   buy   107   0.1098   0.0234972   11.7720972
2013-05-12 00:46:22   PAJKA.BOND   option-buy   228   0.07   0   15.96

Of course, we can just check this against your other claims:

I sell my most PAJKA bonds at 0.1 something..only small amount of it at 0.6-0.99...I only made 5 BTC lose there...

...and yet another number.

The truth, as we can learn here, is that you sold quite a lot of your assets under 0.1 and a fair amount of them much lower and as low as 0.6. If you can't imagine how someone could buy those bonds and sell them later at a higher price, well, that's just another nail in your insanity coffin.

But wait, there's more!

Your pattern of libelous slander without any backing is starting to become apparent with this:

I think the founder of ASICMINER must have relationship with DR.ZHANG (who invented avalon).

another assumption that DR.Zhang may be is board director of ASICMINER, I think this is the only way to explaining that retail order of AVALON are all delayed, in the meanwhile ASICEMINER has double its HASH POWER....  as long as I do not know anyone else had ability to produce ASIC chips....
assume the cheap cost and ability to produce large amount of ASIC chips in China,  which that other country can not competing with .

By the way , the clue is simple.... Lot of people not received their order of AVALON...I am a Chinese I can read Chinese...if you had this ability you also can go to BTCMAN.COM to find out the information....  

I am sorry about involving DR.ZHANG , I made a wrong assumption...

But if slandering and making conspiracy accusations isn't enough, we have the outright insanity too:

If you now that ASICMINER only use 230NM technique to produce their Chips ...but the majority technique worldwide to produce chips is 5nm today(Intel or Navidian has 0.5NM)!!!!!  and if you do not believe what I said go do your math online....

So now the world has invented 5nm chips and that's what's being used by the majority of the world today and Intel and Navidian (or nvidia), for crying out loud, has 0.5NM!!!!! (I think that was five, yes)

Not just that, but AM went back to 230nm chips from what they have been using all this time, which is a 130nm chip.

Actually, this isn't the only time he doesn't know what the squat he's talking about.

I hope that you understand ,Most of the integrated circuit manufactures in China is capable to produce at 40nm technical  , KNC is using 28nm.(not a huge differences ,and I believe China has manufacture can produce this at 28nm too.)for integrated circuit producing, it would be roughly the same process to producing 110nm  (Technical used in first Generation Blade)and 28nm ,it only different in the production equipment involved .and also consider the cost advantage in China and availability of production equipment and technicians. Still should not worry about it too much.

So now we're back to 110nm, which is still wrong, but more importantly, even if it was right, SOSLove would like us to believe that really, it's nothing different from 28nm, so there's really no point in worrying about the competition because their hardware isn't that much better.


To be honest, I could do this all night, but I'm getting a bit fed up of exposing this idiot, so I'm going to go to bed. I go to bet without having seen a single shred of evidence of SOSLove's claim that I have lied to him, but I hope I have offered at least a speck of insight into this person's mind by showing his train of thoughts in various situations.

I'll try to respond to any reasonable arguments tomorrow, but please feel free to post any questions in the main thread for the asset.

.b

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June 26, 2013, 07:07:07 PM
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This guy orderd his devices for $20 USD per G/hash but he sell his contracts at $400 per G/hash.

Lies. You have no idea what I paid or what the expenses are. The miner alone, however, is well above $20GH/s so on that alone, you are a liar or at the very best least ignorant.

One month before this man trying to convince me to hold PAJKA bonds, I am glad I have right prediction of what will happen in the future.

Lies. You 'evidence' of me lying is that you read an article where I accurately described what PMBs are. There was nothing in that article that was trying to convince you of holding anything; in fact, you sold based on that article so you should probably thank me.

Thus, I only make 6BTC loss in PAJKA BOND, If I did not listen to him, I could loss half , anyone do not believe me you could going to BTCT.CO to look the past 1 month trend of PAJKA BOND.

Lies. You sold as low as 0.6XX, which was almost half of what you paid. Since then, the price has crashed a whopping 10% at present, with lots of sales happening above that.

But let's examine your claim more accurately.

Some guys in this forum is think I made a wrong decision...I just want to prove here , that I did not lie I have sold all my PAJKA bonds at made a net loss of 5.4 BTC..plus back the dividend I have received is 6.7 BTC.

Never mind , 5btc is the cost to pay for what I have learned .

I have personally loss around 10 BTC on those contracts, what I want to say is the issuers of PMBs are not doing anything wrong ,they just exploit the contracts and take advantage over those people who do not has certain knowledge to analysis what they are buying.

So... Your claim of losing 6BTC is a lie, or, if it is the truth, all the other claims you've made about your losses are lies.

But that's too simple, isn't it? I mean, anyone can confuse 5.5, 6.0, 6.7 in the heat of battle, and the 10BTC can easily include all your bond losses beyond PAJKA too, right?

Let's move on.

Especially, newbies please do not buying anything you do not understand , I hope that you will have a pleasure time within trading BTC stocks and probably makes profit on it,but not wasting your money on it, for those people issued PMBs at this time should be ashamed on themselves as well as who approved it to trade on exchange.

OK, let's look a bit at this.

Currently market price for ASICMINER'S BLADE is cost 50 BTC..it will pay out itself in 145 days.....

My asset is priced cheaper than ASICMINER'S BLADE so according to your analysis, my asset should repay itself faster than 145 days.

This isn't a lie on your end, though, just an example of how insane your analysis are. You tout AM blades as profitable because you own AM shares, yet scorn cheaper priced investments. It's a bit of a weird claim at the very least.

I know BTC will only survive when more and more people will joint to it , I can not let minority of some evil people destroying our community by they take money away from innocent newbies.

You mean, you _want_ newbies to pay BTC 0.005 for mining a megahash when you get a but of the sale but you don't want them to pay 0.004 when you don't get a profit?

I claimed that I do not say PMBs are traps, What I stated is wait util the market totally absorbed the new technology~

Lies.

PMB is god damn sick trap!!!

But let's not stop there, shall we?

Anyway ,this guy called Frunmp seems disappear now, I am still glad I sold all my contracts at 0.94 ,after I sold my contracts, I think no one sold above this price.  

Considering that all trades are public, this would be a rather strange thing to say because it is easily proven as a lie. Maybe... Oh, yes, there it is...

only net loss 5.3 below is my transaction I do not know how to upload picture ...but I am not liar.....if you think you are right then time will tell...

2013-06-07 21:25:34   PAJKA.BOND   sell   16   0.06   0.00192   0.95808
2013-06-07 21:25:33   PAJKA.BOND   sell   4   0.0605   0.000484   0.241516
2013-06-07 21:25:32   PAJKA.BOND   sell   4   0.061   0.000488   0.243512
2013-06-07 21:25:31   PAJKA.BOND   sell   15   0.07   0.0021   1.0479
2013-06-07 21:25:29   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.072   0.000144   0.071856
2013-06-07 21:25:25   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.072   0.000144   0.071856
2013-06-07 21:25:23   PAJKA.BOND   sell   3   0.0721   0.0004326   0.2158674
2013-06-07 21:25:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.073   0.00146   0.72854
2013-06-07 21:25:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   6   0.073001   0.00087601   0.43712998
2013-06-07 21:00:38   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.089631   0.00017926   0.08945173
2013-06-06 21:19:23   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.095   0.0019   0.9481
2013-06-06 21:19:21   PAJKA.BOND   sell   8   0.095   0.00152   0.75848
2013-06-06 11:48:31   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.101   0.00202   1.00798
2013-06-06 06:55:26   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.101   0.000202   0.100798
2013-06-06 04:52:51   PAJKA.BOND   sell   25   0.099   0.00495   2.47005
2013-06-06 04:52:49   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.0991   0.001982   0.989018
2013-06-06 04:52:48   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.099101   0.0001982   0.09890279
2013-06-05 22:38:36   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.106001   0.000212   0.10578899
2013-06-05 18:06:01   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.10897   0.00021794   0.10875206
2013-06-05 04:56:28   PAJKA.BOND   sell   5   0.10897   0.0010897   0.5437603
2013-06-05 01:41:59   PAJKA.BOND   sell   26   0.10897   0.00566644   2.82755356
2013-06-04 00:11:39   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.099   0.00198   0.98802
2013-06-04 00:11:37   PAJKA.BOND   sell   20   0.099   0.00396   1.97604
2013-06-04 00:11:34   PAJKA.BOND   sell   2   0.0991   0.0003964   0.1978036
2013-06-03 23:29:36   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.109498   0.00021899   0.109279
2013-06-03 22:45:04   PAJKA.BOND   buy   2   0.109499   0.00043799   0.21943599
2013-06-03 21:25:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   100   0.102   0.0204   10.1796
2013-06-03 21:25:14   PAJKA.BOND   sell   21   0.102001   0.00428404   2.13773695
2013-06-03 21:25:09   PAJKA.BOND   sell   5   0.1035   0.001035   0.516465
2013-06-03 21:25:05   PAJKA.BOND   sell   25   0.105   0.00525   2.61975
2013-06-03 21:25:01   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.105   0.00021   0.10479
2013-06-03 21:24:56   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.105   0.00021   0.10479
2013-06-03 21:10:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   13   0.1084   0.0028184   1.4063816
2013-06-03 21:10:19   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.1086   0.002172   1.083828
2013-06-03 21:10:18   PAJKA.BOND   sell   4   0.10861   0.00086888   0.43357112
2013-06-03 21:09:42   PAJKA.BOND   sell   9   0.1087   0.0019566   0.9763434
2013-06-03 21:03:39   PAJKA.BOND   sell   21   0.109   0.004578   2.284422
2013-06-03 21:03:35   PAJKA.BOND   sell   9   0.109   0.001962   0.979038
2013-06-03 19:50:47   PAJKA.BOND   sell   40   0.1098   0.008784   4.383216
2013-06-03 19:45:05   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.1098   0.0002196   0.1095804
2013-06-01 22:45:04   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.1099   0.0002198   0.1101198
2013-05-30 22:45:07   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.11   0.00022   0.11022
2013-05-28 22:45:06   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.10901   0.00021802   0.10922802
2013-05-26 22:45:06   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.109989   0.00021997   0.11020897
2013-05-24 22:45:08   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.1099   0.0002198   0.1101198
2013-05-22 22:45:05   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.108987   0.00021797   0.10920497
2013-05-21 10:44:08   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.108989   0.00021797   0.10920697
2013-05-20 12:10:18   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.10899   0.00021798   0.10920798
2013-05-17 22:45:05   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.1049   0.0002098   0.1051098
2013-05-16 06:39:35   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.105   0.00021   0.10521
2013-05-13 21:29:08   PAJKA.BOND   buy   1   0.1059   0.0002118   0.1061118
2013-05-12 00:50:24   PAJKA.BOND   buy   104   0.109998   0.02287958   11.46267158
2013-05-12 00:48:53   PAJKA.BOND   buy   107   0.1098   0.0234972   11.7720972
2013-05-12 00:46:22   PAJKA.BOND   option-buy   228   0.07   0   15.96

Of course, we can just check this against your other claims:

I sell my most PAJKA bonds at 0.1 something..only small amount of it at 0.6-0.99...I only made 5 BTC lose there...

...and yet another number.

The truth, as we can learn here, is that you sold quite a lot of your assets under 0.1 and a fair amount of them much lower and as low as 0.6. If you can't imagine how someone could buy those bonds and sell them later at a higher price, well, that's just another nail in your insanity coffin.

But wait, there's more!

Your pattern of libelous slander without any backing is starting to become apparent with this:

I think the founder of ASICMINER must have relationship with DR.ZHANG (who invented avalon).

another assumption that DR.Zhang may be is board director of ASICMINER, I think this is the only way to explaining that retail order of AVALON are all delayed, in the meanwhile ASICEMINER has double its HASH POWER....  as long as I do not know anyone else had ability to produce ASIC chips....
assume the cheap cost and ability to produce large amount of ASIC chips in China,  which that other country can not competing with .

By the way , the clue is simple.... Lot of people not received their order of AVALON...I am a Chinese I can read Chinese...if you had this ability you also can go to BTCMAN.COM to find out the information....  

I am sorry about involving DR.ZHANG , I made a wrong assumption...

But if slandering and making conspiracy accusations isn't enough, we have the outright insanity too:

If you now that ASICMINER only use 230NM technique to produce their Chips ...but the majority technique worldwide to produce chips is 5nm today(Intel or Navidian has 0.5NM)!!!!!  and if you do not believe what I said go do your math online....

So now the world has invented 5nm chips and that's what's being used by the majority of the world today and Intel and Navidian (or nvidia), for crying out loud, has 0.5NM!!!!! (I think that was five, yes)

Not just that, but AM went back to 230nm chips from what they have been using all this time, which is a 130nm chip.

Actually, this isn't the only time he doesn't know what the squat he's talking about.

I hope that you understand ,Most of the integrated circuit manufactures in China is capable to produce at 40nm technical  , KNC is using 28nm.(not a huge differences ,and I believe China has manufacture can produce this at 28nm too.)for integrated circuit producing, it would be roughly the same process to producing 110nm  (Technical used in first Generation Blade)and 28nm ,it only different in the production equipment involved .and also consider the cost advantage in China and availability of production equipment and technicians. Still should not worry about it too much.

So now we're back to 110nm, which is still wrong, but more importantly, even if it was right, SOSLove would like us to believe that really, it's nothing different from 28nm, so there's really no point in worrying about the competition because their hardware isn't that much better.


To be honest, I could do this all night, but I'm getting a bit fed up of exposing this idiot, so I'm going to go to bed. I go to bet without having seen a single shred of evidence of SOSLove's claim that I have lied to him, but I hope I have offered at least a speck of insight into this person's mind by showing his train of thoughts in various situations.

I'll try to respond to any reasonable arguments tomorrow, but please feel free to post any questions in the main thread for the asset.

.b

I am so glad that I mean that much to you , Spend hours and hours pick up my small mistakes ,but still can't overturn the truth which is you want take advantage from less experienced investors by issuing this guaranteed loss fund to those poor investors ,but I did not...

And one more time I only sold 8 of my shares at 0.06 ,because I just want to get out  ,I sold at average on 0.094. .You ignored the truth ,continues saying I am sold my contracts at half of its value, but does this mean anything? Since ,PAJKA today's price is still below than what I sold... even at my lowest point ,I still better of than hold it util today.


2013-06-07 21:25:33   PAJKA.BOND   sell   4   0.0605   0.000484   0.241516
2013-06-07 21:25:32   PAJKA.BOND   sell   4   0.061   0.000488   0.243512
2013-06-07 21:25:31   PAJKA.BOND   sell   15   0.07   0.0021   1.0479
2013-06-07 21:25:29   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.072   0.000144   0.071856
2013-06-07 21:25:25   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.072   0.000144   0.071856
2013-06-07 21:25:23   PAJKA.BOND   sell   3   0.0721   0.0004326   0.2158674
2013-06-07 21:25:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.073   0.00146   0.72854
2013-06-07 21:25:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   6   0.073001   0.00087601   0.43712998
2013-06-07 21:00:38   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.089631   0.00017926   0.08945173
2013-06-06 21:19:23   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.095   0.0019   0.9481
2013-06-06 21:19:21   PAJKA.BOND   sell   8   0.095   0.00152   0.75848
2013-06-06 11:48:31   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.101   0.00202   1.00798
2013-06-06 06:55:26   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.101   0.000202   0.100798
2013-06-06 04:52:51   PAJKA.BOND   sell   25   0.099   0.00495   2.47005
2013-06-06 04:52:49   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.0991   0.001982   0.989018
2013-06-06 04:52:48   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.099101   0.0001982   0.09890279
2013-06-05 22:38:36   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.106001   0.000212   0.10578899
2013-06-05 18:06:01   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.10897   0.00021794   0.10875206
2013-06-05 04:56:28   PAJKA.BOND   sell   5   0.10897   0.0010897   0.5437603
2013-06-05 01:41:59   PAJKA.BOND   sell   26   0.10897   0.00566644   2.82755356
2013-06-04 00:11:39   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.099   0.00198   0.98802
2013-06-04 00:11:37   PAJKA.BOND   sell   20   0.099   0.00396   1.97604
2013-06-04 00:11:34   PAJKA.BOND   sell   2   0.0991   0.0003964   0.1978036
2013-06-03 23:29:36   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.109498   0.00021899   0.109279
2013-06-03 22:45:04   PAJKA.BOND   buy   2   0.109499   0.00043799   0.21943599
2013-06-03 21:25:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   100   0.102   0.0204   10.1796
2013-06-03 21:25:14   PAJKA.BOND   sell   21   0.102001   0.00428404   2.13773695
2013-06-03 21:25:09   PAJKA.BOND   sell   5   0.1035   0.001035   0.516465
2013-06-03 21:25:05   PAJKA.BOND   sell   25   0.105   0.00525   2.61975
2013-06-03 21:25:01   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.105   0.00021   0.10479
2013-06-03 21:24:56   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.105   0.00021   0.10479
2013-06-03 21:10:22   PAJKA.BOND   sell   13   0.1084   0.0028184   1.4063816
2013-06-03 21:10:19   PAJKA.BOND   sell   10   0.1086   0.002172   1.083828
2013-06-03 21:10:18   PAJKA.BOND   sell   4   0.10861   0.00086888   0.43357112
2013-06-03 21:09:42   PAJKA.BOND   sell   9   0.1087   0.0019566   0.9763434
2013-06-03 21:03:39   PAJKA.BOND   sell   21   0.109   0.004578   2.284422
2013-06-03 21:03:35   PAJKA.BOND   sell   9   0.109   0.001962   0.979038
2013-06-03 19:50:47   PAJKA.BOND   sell   40   0.1098   0.008784   4.383216
2013-06-03 19:45:05   PAJKA.BOND   sell   1   0.1098   0.0002196   0.1095804

If you can't read above and continues make those false statement about me ,People will determine the truth from copy of my transactions. I do not worry ,people are not blind, as long as you think people are stupid, but I think they don't.... Your evil plan will not go succeed, and I will try my best to stop people being hurt by your pitfall bond contract~

 
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June 26, 2013, 07:12:51 PM
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If you can't read above and continues make those false statement about me ,People will determine the truth from copy of my transactions. I do not worry ,people are not blind, as long as you think people are stupid, but I think they don't.... You evil plan will not go succeed, and I will try my best to stop people being hurt by your pitfall bond contract~

I'm not the one creating new threads to target someone and then taint my reputation by posting proven lies about that person. I am also not the one that keeps lying about what prices you sold at and explode when I point out that I earned 15-20% on the shares you panic-sold when you learned that you had been an idiot and invested in something you didn't understand.

Like I've told you: You choose to act like an idiot, even when you've been exposed as a liar and slanderer. I'm just posting verifiable facts to refute your claims.

Also, I don't attack your English; never have. In fact, I've granted you incredible leeway in understanding what it is you are trying to say.

Your mistakes aren't minor; they are major and you keep denying them despite them now being proven to everyone.

So, simple answer: Stop acting like an idiot and I'll stop pointing it out to everyone.

.b

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If you can't read above and continues make those false statement about me ,People will determine the truth from copy of my transactions. I do not worry ,people are not blind, as long as you think people are stupid, but I think they don't.... You evil plan will not go succeed, and I will try my best to stop people being hurt by your pitfall bond contract~

I'm not the one creating new threads to target someone and then taint my reputation by posting proven lies about that person. I am also not the one that keeps lying about what prices you sold at and explode when I point out that I earned 15-20% on the shares you panic-sold when you learned that you had been an idiot and invested in something you didn't understand.

Like I've told you: You choose to act like an idiot, even when you've been exposed as a liar and slanderer. I'm just posting verifiable facts to refute your claims.

Also, I don't attack your English; never have. In fact, I've granted you incredible leeway in understanding what it is you are trying to say.

Your mistakes aren't minor; they are major and you keep denying them despite them now being proven to everyone.

So, simple answer: Stop acting like an idiot and I'll stop pointing it out to everyone.

.b
You do care about your reputation ? Are you serious?  you care your reputation by sell 20 times overpriced miners and which will be delivery in September (If everything of this metabank not a scam...) to those investors?? you care your reputation by ignored the basic truth PMBs is a sick trap , everyone in this sub-forum realize it right now... If I am you I would not saying that I got reputation, because I need reputation to cheating more people.



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If you can't read above and continues make those false statement about me ,People will determine the truth from copy of my transactions. I do not worry ,people are not blind, as long as you think people are stupid, but I think they don't.... You evil plan will not go succeed, and I will try my best to stop people being hurt by your pitfall bond contract~

I'm not the one creating new threads to target someone and then taint my reputation by posting proven lies about that person. I am also not the one that keeps lying about what prices you sold at and explode when I point out that I earned 15-20% on the shares you panic-sold when you learned that you had been an idiot and invested in something you didn't understand.

Like I've told you: You choose to act like an idiot, even when you've been exposed as a liar and slanderer. I'm just posting verifiable facts to refute your claims.

Also, I don't attack your English; never have. In fact, I've granted you incredible leeway in understanding what it is you are trying to say.

Your mistakes aren't minor; they are major and you keep denying them despite them now being proven to everyone.

So, simple answer: Stop acting like an idiot and I'll stop pointing it out to everyone.

.b



wow furuknap, don't you have any sense of embarrassment?  who gives a fuck if SOSLOVE is lying or if hes just terrible at english, hes not the one trying to sell a shitty mining security


This guy perfectly understand what happen. Furuknap stop issuing your 100% guaranteed lose for investors bond contracts...Then I will deleted this thread.....

 
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June 26, 2013, 07:28:34 PM
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I would hope this is pretty obvious as he states in the contract... but many people are naive.

I just trying to prevent people make stupid decision, that eventually loss its money..

The Survive of BTC is part depend on those new entry, if they loss their money by buying those PMBs ,then they might leaves this community and would probably never comeback . We can't let the minority of people by issuing those PMBs at this time to hurt majority of people..
Most newbies when they make decision ,they are often do no make right judgement.

if one person read my post and stop invest in those bonds ,then it is the victory of myself, I will be proud of what I did today ~

People need to be responsible for themselves.  I see the bitcoin community dish out lessons in personal responsibility and due diligence on a daily basis!

It's nice of you to point this out to people.  But if people lose money to this it is only because they were not responsible and did not practice due diligence. 

so, until they do so, fuck them.

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You do care about your reputation ? Are you serious?  you care your reputation by sell 20 times overpriced miners and which will be delivery in September (If everything of this metabank not a scam...) to those investors?? you care your reputation by ignored the basic truth PMBs is a sick trap , everyone in this sub-forum realize it right now... If I am you I would not saying that I got reputation, because I need reputation to cheating more people.

*sigh*

So, simple answer: Stop acting like an idiot and I'll stop pointing it out to everyone.

You know, your beloved ASICMiner sells hardware with far greater proceeds than I am. AM's advance on USB miners is 33x. For blades, it used to be 50x. For USB Miners, it used to be 66x.

Mine is 20x. Am's overhead is likely much lower than mine, so if you include cost of operation, AM is far more of a scammer than I am.

I'm sure you'll post a similar thread about friedcat now.

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You do care about your reputation ? Are you serious?  you care your reputation by sell 20 times overpriced miners and which will be delivery in September (If everything of this metabank not a scam...) to those investors?? you care your reputation by ignored the basic truth PMBs is a sick trap , everyone in this sub-forum realize it right now... If I am you I would not saying that I got reputation, because I need reputation to cheating more people.

*sigh*

So, simple answer: Stop acting like an idiot and I'll stop pointing it out to everyone.

You know, your beloved ASICMiner sells hardware with far greater proceeds than I am. AM's advance on USB miners is 33x. For blades, it used to be 50x. For USB Miners, it used to be 66x.

Mine is 20x. Am's overhead is likely much lower than mine, so if you include cost of operation, AM is far more of a scammer than I am.

I'm sure you'll post a similar thread about friedcat now.

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Great, First time you admit you are scammer...I am happy for your improvement... How ever AM's USB will shipping right now , you are trying to sell your contracts at 20X times expensive and which only delivery in September.(If nothing goes wrong.)
Do you really think your comparison is a fair comparison ? Everybody know difficulty right now will be totally different than in September, Are you really insane or you just think we are too stupid ?
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Are you really insane or you just think we are too stupid ?

I just think you're acting stupid. By choice. I have no idea whether you actually are as stupid as you appear.

That would be sad, though.

Regardless, I'm done with your trolling. I may drop by to repost the evidence of your lies and insanity if you keep your harassment up.

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Are you really insane or you just think we are too stupid ?

I just think you're acting stupid. By choice. I have no idea whether you actually are as stupid as you appear.

That would be sad, though.

Regardless, I'm done with your trolling. I may drop by to repost the evidence of your lies and insanity if you keep your harassment up.

.b

I do not care, What I made just mistakes, because I do not intend to get any return on it...but you are not...

I know I makes you unhappy ,because I am stop your cheating plan go succeed, don't you really think people are stupid, that easy to be cheated?? I think most people are not , but What I do is wake up those inexperienced newbies...

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Are you really insane or you just think we are too stupid ?

I just think you're acting stupid. By choice. I have no idea whether you actually are as stupid as you appear.

That would be sad, though.

Regardless, I'm done with your trolling. I may drop by to repost the evidence of your lies and insanity if you keep your harassment up.

.b
Again ,You said you are better than AM ,you use a products at 20 times more expensive to compare what actually existing today.
Are you mad? or because you have nothing to say to overturn that you are liar....Of course ,I know PAJKA makes you unhappy ,and you lose a lot on it , but does this mean you should issuing a other PMBs to get your loss back ? I feel you made a big wrong move, if you are poor or you been fucked by something , you should stay what you are and keep honest and integrity , someone fuck you up does't mean you need fucked some one back...
I hope you can keep your  personality in pure at your age.....God is watching on you, do not do something that makes newbies lose money...




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wow furuknap, don't you have any sense of embarrassment?  who gives a fuck if SOSLOVE is lying or if hes just terrible at english, hes not the one trying to sell a shitty mining security


First of all ,I am not lied about anything, just Furuknap focus on picking up some small mistakes I have made, Second , Am I really that Bad at English? (Furuknap will be more than happy about it ,because he can take advantage over my poor English). Sad 
Thirdly , Yes, I do not selling anything shitty mining security to the public.....I do not have the incentives to make lie.... Tongue

yeah sos, you're pretty bad at english Smiley  It's ok though, I don't speak a word of chinese!

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yeah sos, you're pretty bad at english Smiley  It's ok though, I don't speak a word of chinese!
OMG,I need a personal tutor to teach me and correcting my English.......I will pay over BTC.... Anyone interest to apply for this position....Please PM me.

Class over SKYPE.....
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June 27, 2013, 09:56:28 AM
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PMBs are bad long-term investments?

So what?

Who cares?

At this point we all know it. It us up to the exchanges to not list them if they are so morally reprehensible. So go complain on BTC-TC and BitFunder threads about PMBs. Don't slander someone who is operating a common business on this forum. Why aren't you slandering dice game operators? Are they not poor long term investments for users? Why not troll Lenders for their exorbitant APRs? Why not troll people who resale pre-orders of ASIC equipment? It seems like your dead set on a personal vendetta, which strips away your credibility.

In conclusion, stop slandering people and make your complaints to the exchanges, (who will promptly ignore you).

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PMBs are bad long-term investments?

So what?

Who cares?

At this point we all know it. It us up to the exchanges to not list them if they are so morally reprehensible. So go complain on BTC-TC and BitFunder threads about PMBs. Don't slander someone who is operating a common business on this forum. Why aren't you slandering dice game operators? Are they not poor long term investments for users? Why not troll Lenders for their exorbitant APRs? Why not troll people who resale pre-orders of ASIC equipment? It seems like your dead set on a personal vendetta, which strips away your credibility.

In conclusion, stop slandering people and make your complaints to the exchanges, (who will promptly ignore you).
Of course, you do not care because you understand it and won't buying it.
What I do is to spreading information to newbies ,obviously you are not.
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