[ANN] labcoin ASIC - v.1 @130nm/300Mhz -16 cores chip - European / Chinese Team

[TheSwede75]

would this add up to more power consumptions, a 5w difference per chip is negligible, however if you have a 1000 chip or even a few hundred chip the power bill will shoots up? 1000 chip x 5w = 5000w

I am fairly certain that anyone considering a 5TH mining operation would feel confident in handling 5000w as total power draw, over a vastly increased cost per chip and a later delivery date.

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[labcoin]

would this add up to more power consumptions, a 5w difference per chip is negligible, however if you have a 1000 chip or even a few hundred chip the power bill will shoots up? 1000 chip x 5w = 5000w

You're looking at a break-trough improvement. As said, we're able to fit 16 cores into a 130nm process, outputting 5 GH at  2.7W/GHash.
The 65nm 500mhz design will output 450~500MH at 0.7~0.8~1W  so it's definitely a great improvement.

EDIT : Also, the 65nm chip is more suitable for an USB miner device, not for mass deployment of hashing power as multi-core communication have yet to be ironed out.
 We think the best choice right now is going for mass production and deployment of the 130nm design with 16 cores, and consider the production of  USB miners for re-sale as well.
                    

[papamoi]

what will be the hashing speed by chip?

[TheSwede75]

what will be the hashing speed by chip?

Around 5 GH/s using a 130 nm multi core design @ around 14w total.

[papamoi]

what will be the hashing speed by chip?

Around 5 GH/s using a 130 nm multi core design @ around 14w total.

ok but the wattage seems too much comparing existing chips

estimate chips price?

[TheSwede75]

what will be the hashing speed by chip?

Around 5 GH/s using a 130 nm multi core design @ around 14w total.

ok but the wattage seems too much comparing existing chips

estimate chips price?

It is a fair amount higher then KNC and Bitfury, that much is true. But interestingly enough it is on par with the BFL 65nm first batch, and can be produced at a magnitude lower price once NRE/Dev costs are paid.

[RoadStress]

what will be the hashing speed by chip?

Around 5 GH/s using a 130 nm multi core design @ around 14w total.

ok but the wattage seems too much comparing existing chips

estimate chips price?

"Power consumption per GHash is 12.8W/4.8G=2.7W/GHash"

      "Estimated selling price for chip, 8-9 USD"

[papamoi]

i could be interested in participating in the nre costs and dev costs if you are ready

i was orienting my own project to structured asic

[labcoin]

Great news from the team in China, we have got the on-chip PLL version working with multiple cores at 130nm. We're working out the final steps before considering this design good for tape-out, estimated on the first week of August. Investment opportunity will be open to the public soon and all details will be released.  

UPDATE : IC photos and magnifications, showing the internal PLL and the complete design, will be available in about 1 week.

Sam
Labcoin Team

[labcoin]

For anyone who called us  from France today :

Sorry we missed your phone call on our  Chinese office number, because at the time of the call, it was late and nobody was there.  We will return back the call from Europe  tomorrow morning.

Samuel Noi
Nominee Director
iTec-Pro Limited
sam.noi@labcoin.com

[auto2nr1]

Great news from the team in China, we have got the on-chip PLL version working with multiple cores at 130nm. We're working out the final steps before considering this design good for tape-out, estimated on the first week of August. Investment opportunity will be open to the public soon and all details will be released.  

UPDATE : IC photos and magnifications, showing the internal PLL and the complete design, will be available in about 1 week.

Sam
Labcoin Team

How soon will the investment opportunity be open? Will you be using an exchange? Looking forward to more details. Thanks.

[labcoin]

Investment opportunity should be open in 2 days. We'll be probably on btct.co or bitfunder, details are still being ironed out. Exact number of shares and price will be posted here shortly, probably tomorrow. We tried getting back to the French phone number who got in thouch yesterday but we were unable to obtain an asnwer. If who called is reading this, please send us a private message so we can book a time for a phone chat, we will re-try tomorrow morning at a different time.

I would like to add another line to this post, the intention is not to start a flamewar with other ASIC producers, but i want to give a warning to you guys, who are thinking to invest into other ventures present in this forum.

First of all : Do not trust any 3D rendering, whatsoever, they can be purchased easily and cheaply. ( we outsourced graphic design, so i speak from my personal experience ).

they are by no mean a proof of an existing product.

Look for a chip magnification, like those we posted, those are a good indications of the IC being really engineered and not a lie. But don't take them either as granted, it's not so hard to manipulate an EDA tool and obtain such images, or photoshop might be an even easier option.

You need to follow the development and do your own research about the consistency of the informations posted afterwards, and it's not always easy;
You can always use your google-fu if you are not an E.E engineer or have this kind of knowledge.

I want close this post by saying that we will provide btct.co or bitfunder full indentifications documents regarding the people behind this project.

Thank you
Samuel Noi
sam.noi@labcoin.com

[nightengale]

It seems odd that the purveyor of the opportunity is providing us with information on how to spot a scam.

Not trying to troll, just thought it was ironic.

[labcoin]

It seems odd that the purveyor of the opportunity is providing us with information on how to spot a scam.

Not trying to troll, just thought it was ironic.

Ironic ? well, it's the last thing i find it to be. I respect your point of view though, if you just can elaborate more why you find it odd.

EDIT : Perhaps for conflict of interest ?

EDIT 2 : I just gave a warning, i didn't release any name at all. I think it's more than fair play.

[firefop]

what's the target price for your products? or Hash rate/$?

We won't yet talk about 'prices', but our cost is about 18~20 USD/Ghash for version 1, still just an estimation. Take it with a grain of salt.

So far I like your style.

Develop, produce, sell. Just let me know when you've got the first batch of hardware ready to ship.

~

Also I wonder if you could make my day and produce a product and will go in a 19inch U2/U3/U4 ? save us the trouble of having to mess with things.

[labcoin]

what's the target price for your products? or Hash rate/$?

We won't yet talk about 'prices', but our cost is about 18~20 USD/Ghash for version 1, still just an estimation. Take it with a grain of salt.

So far I like your style.

Develop, produce, sell. Just let me know when you've got the first batch of hardware ready to ship.

~

Also I wonder if you could make my day and produce a product and will go in a 19inch U2/U3/U4 ? save us the trouble of having to mess with things.

Thank you. I appreciate that.  First batch will be probably ready for shipment by late august, Follow this thread or send us an email at info@labcoin.com so we can add you to our newsletter.
As for the rack size, i think it's a little early to make promises but we will do our best to give these devices the right casing. Thanks again

Sam
Labcoin Team

[klee]

Investment opportunity should be open in 2 days. We'll be probably on btct.co or bitfunder, details are still being ironed out. Exact number of shares and price will be posted here shortly, probably tomorrow.

So the only way of investing is with bitcoins right?

[TheSwede75]

Investment opportunity should be open in 2 days. We'll be probably on btct.co or bitfunder, details are still being ironed out. Exact number of shares and price will be posted here shortly, probably tomorrow.

So the only way of investing is with bitcoins right?

The current plan is indeed to perform IPO through a Bitcoin exchange such as BTCT.CO, Bitfunder or Picostock, meaning that investments would be made in Bitcoin exclusively.

[vanycon]

Thank you. I appreciate that.  First batch will be probably ready for shipment by late august, Follow this thread or send us an email at info@labcoin.com so we can add you to our newsletter.
As for the rack size, i think it's a little early to make promises but we will do our best to give these devices the right casing. Thanks again

Sam
Labcoin Team

I didn't read for a while, mailed already for newsletter.

Is the first batch part of tthe hosting solution, or is there any possibility to buy/preorder some miners?

[eve]

Today we have a very important update, the Chinese team is simulating a lot of design simultaneously and worked almost non-stop for the last 48 hours  targeting different process sizes.

The results are more than positive, i will try to outline them in the clearest way possible.

1) The 65nm 500Mhz is still undergoing post-verification phase, while another simulation is ongoing at 600Mhz and we're waiting for the results.

2)  Post simulations yielded positive results on a 130nm, 300Mhz, Power 0.8W, 6.5x6.5mm design.
    
     The team is working on HDL optimizations to get 16 cores for chip.

     Some math, quoted from the tech team

    "300M*16=4.8G, 0.8*16=12.8W, Area=130,0000*16=2080,0000, make the utilization ratio to 50%, the chip size will be about 4160,0000um2, about 6.5mm x 6.5mm"

     "Power consumption per GHash is 12.8W/4.8G=2.7W/GHash"

      "Estimated selling price for chip, 8-9 USD"

What does this mean ? i think it's not hard to get.  130nm process and 5GH speed at slightly higher power consumption, but competitive prices.

Shoot any question guys

Sam
Labcoin team

estimated selling price of 8-9 USD is affordable, is this confirm??