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Lol has anyone ever heard this sounds like a scam if I have ever seen one!! Is there a live stream of numbers being picked, I would like a little more information!
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Lol has anyone ever heard this sounds like a scam if I have ever seen one!! Is there a live stream of numbers being picked, I would like a little more information!
From what I understand it will be provably fair because it uses ETH block hash since it's an ETH smart contract. I don't think most people would trust live stream since it's impossible to prove that it was actually live and not filmed previously. The OP has been away I've asked him before to update the main post and change topic title. However he doesn't seem very computer savvy however he somehow managed to write a smart contract. Either way this thread needs to be fixed starting from the main post.
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There is very low chances of win so i can't take risk to invest my money in it, it is better to invest in a good hash i think
The chances of winning something are higher than in the regular lottery, plus it also fair so you can be confident about the transparency of the game. How is your site going for you? I remember reading this thread at the end of the year and there was no website or a anything but looks like you finally got one up and running. Here is a few recommended things you perform 1) Change the topic title of this thread so it includes your casino name and website. "Change your life" makes it seem like it's a gambling discussion type of thread 2) Update your main post and include your URL and Facebook and twitter in that link. Also include more informations about your smart contract 3) Hire some designers and maybe start some promotion on your website. Like a give a way to gain exposure. Good luck Thank you for your advice, and we will make changes to create a better understanding of the project.
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May 24, 2018, 10:41:21 AM |
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Lol has anyone ever heard this sounds like a scam if I have ever seen one!! Is there a live stream of numbers being picked, I would like a little more information!
I have seen way worse scams,so this one at least keeps presentable (if it is a scam at all) not sure 100% if it is a scam project,but it has all the red flags you need to identify a possible scam maybe the owner has good intentions and doesn't plan to steal your money,but 50% of the funds going to jackpot opens so many options to cheat and also it makes the whole game pretty much useless for a regular user to paricipate in
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May 24, 2018, 08:30:45 PM |
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Lol has anyone ever heard this sounds like a scam if I have ever seen one!! Is there a live stream of numbers being picked, I would like a little more information!
I have seen way worse scams,so this one at least keeps presentable (if it is a scam at all) not sure 100% if it is a scam project,but it has all the red flags you need to identify a possible scam maybe the owner has good intentions and doesn't plan to steal your money,but 50% of the funds going to jackpot opens so many options to cheat and also it makes the whole game pretty much useless for a regular user to paricipate in 50% amount that goes to Jackpot is the issue on here where its too big to have that kind of deduction on over all winning amount. 50% would be partially divided if theres a multiple winner.I dont find it interesting after all and come to imagine that Grand draw happens once a year too long to wait and as veleten said tendency of scams would be there but theres no proof yet we dont know what actually are the intentions of its owner.Site looks decent but that 50% do hesitates me.
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May 30, 2018, 07:38:16 AM |
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Lol has anyone ever heard this sounds like a scam if I have ever seen one!! Is there a live stream of numbers being picked, I would like a little more information!
I have seen way worse scams,so this one at least keeps presentable (if it is a scam at all) not sure 100% if it is a scam project,but it has all the red flags you need to identify a possible scam maybe the owner has good intentions and doesn't plan to steal your money,but 50% of the funds going to jackpot opens so many options to cheat and also it makes the whole game pretty much useless for a regular user to paricipate in Check out the presentation on where you can find all information on the structure of our platform. Here is a link: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1I5ge_Mb_3nOykCPjSEVqfKxps-HimBJRnpxwLF-1d50/edit?usp=sharing
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June 03, 2018, 05:30:48 AM |
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Lol has anyone ever heard this sounds like a scam if I have ever seen one!! Is there a live stream of numbers being picked, I would like a little more information!
I have seen way worse scams,so this one at least keeps presentable (if it is a scam at all) not sure 100% if it is a scam project,but it has all the red flags you need to identify a possible scam maybe the owner has good intentions and doesn't plan to steal your money,but 50% of the funds going to jackpot opens so many options to cheat and also it makes the whole game pretty much useless for a regular user to paricipate in 50% amount that goes to Jackpot is the issue on here where its too big to have that kind of deduction on over all winning amount. 50% would be partially divided if theres a multiple winner.I dont find it interesting after all and come to imagine that Grand draw happens once a year too long to wait and as veleten said tendency of scams would be there but theres no proof yet we dont know what actually are the intentions of its owner.Site looks decent but that 50% do hesitates me. There is no way people would like that 50% go to the jackpot, so how much do people reach their profit then? May be it is not a scam but positively people do not want to play on this kind of site. Their grandjackpot sure interesting but the way they promoted it and the times that they need sure too long, and we are stacking our money there without even know how it will be. Unless they use some escrow to hold this money, people will think twice
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June 04, 2018, 10:06:46 AM |
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Lol has anyone ever heard this sounds like a scam if I have ever seen one!! Is there a live stream of numbers being picked, I would like a little more information!
I don't think it is a scam, but gamblers will hesitate to put their money in this. Aside from the time they needed to give your price, it would be the way they promote it.
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June 13, 2018, 10:34:13 AM |
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We consider one of the biggest benefits of our platform that we as creators or anyone else do not promise to provide our own money for the jackpot. We are doing so because there were thousands of situations where lottery operators cheated in order to save their money. That why we've created such system where players fulfill the jackpot in order to make it the most transparent lottery platform out there.
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June 16, 2018, 09:06:46 AM |
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We consider one of the biggest benefits of our platform that we as creators or anyone else do not promise to provide our own money for the jackpot. We are doing so because there were thousands of situations where lottery operators cheated in order to save their money. That why we've created such system where players fulfill the jackpot in order to make it the most transparent lottery platform out there.
What do you mean? You are suppose to be the one that operate your site right? So why bothering about not funding your own site with big jackpot? By lowering or may be not supporting your own site will not get you any players to play. In order to make sure people plays on your site you should at least make something, like putting big jackpot which can attract more people to come to your site and play
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June 16, 2018, 02:57:11 PM |
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We consider one of the biggest benefits of our platform that we as creators or anyone else do not promise to provide our own money for the jackpot. We are doing so because there were thousands of situations where lottery operators cheated in order to save their money. That why we've created such system where players fulfill the jackpot in order to make it the most transparent lottery platform out there.
What do you mean? You are suppose to be the one that operate your site right? So why bothering about not funding your own site with big jackpot? By lowering or may be not supporting your own site will not get you any players to play. In order to make sure people plays on your site you should at least make something, like putting big jackpot which can attract more people to come to your site and play Reading up its just normal for a lottery to accumulate amounts to its players to fill up the pot and basing the win on to that pot it isnt actually needed funds for its owner but on the deduction its way too high just like been said above no one will just wait for a year if funds is escrowed then its considerable but we do see up the demand of lottery games which isnt that interest isnt present which most them do die of sooner or later.
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Yes you need more proof of fair and etc, IT sounds very scamlike. I have looked into otto lotto and I do not see like anything on Google about it, Has anyone ever actually tried to play or even won playing this???
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June 17, 2018, 09:31:07 AM |
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Yes you need more proof of fair and etc, IT sounds very scamlike. I have looked into otto lotto and I do not see like anything on Google about it, Has anyone ever actually tried to play or even won playing this???
We don't know if it's a scam or not because nobody even bothered to use the site yet. One of the reasons why is most likely because the main ANN first post is very outdated and the admin doesn't bother to even update it. I think I've asked him about a month ago to put all the info about the site in the first post so people don't have to manually go page by page to find more info how the site works. However the OP still hasn't done this. So until this ANN is fixed up I don't think they will get too many people trying out the site.
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June 17, 2018, 10:21:58 AM |
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We consider one of the biggest benefits of our platform that we as creators or anyone else do not promise to provide our own money for the jackpot. We are doing so because there were thousands of situations where lottery operators cheated in order to save their money. That why we've created such system where players fulfill the jackpot in order to make it the most transparent lottery platform out there.
You have to get a lot of participants for that. With small amount of participants your jackpot will be unattractive and most gamblers will not bother to take part in your lottery. To gain more users you have to spend money on advertising and promo rounds (adding your own money to the jackpot) and only after several months of doing so you can start operating like you say. I wish you good luck of course but imo without ads and promos your chances of being successful are slim.
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June 18, 2018, 03:16:40 PM |
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We consider one of the biggest benefits of our platform that we as creators or anyone else do not promise to provide our own money for the jackpot. We are doing so because there were thousands of situations where lottery operators cheated in order to save their money. That why we've created such system where players fulfill the jackpot in order to make it the most transparent lottery platform out there.
What do you mean? You are suppose to be the one that operate your site right? So why bothering about not funding your own site with big jackpot? By lowering or may be not supporting your own site will not get you any players to play. In order to make sure people plays on your site you should at least make something, like putting big jackpot which can attract more people to come to your site and play Reading up its just normal for a lottery to accumulate amounts to its players to fill up the pot and basing the win on to that pot it isnt actually needed funds for its owner but on the deduction its way too high just like been said above no one will just wait for a year if funds is escrowed then its considerable but we do see up the demand of lottery games which isnt that interest isnt present which most them do die of sooner or later. Okay, you can saying this if there is a lot of players which do not need to be funded again but the point is they lack of many players. In order to get more players they should bring out their best to make sure people are attracted. The only way is to bring out the big jackpot so everyone can claim for it. What deduction are you saying about? Are you saying about the deduction fee?
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June 18, 2018, 07:59:03 PM |
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We consider one of the biggest benefits of our platform that we as creators or anyone else do not promise to provide our own money for the jackpot. We are doing so because there were thousands of situations where lottery operators cheated in order to save their money. That why we've created such system where players fulfill the jackpot in order to make it the most transparent lottery platform out there.
What do you mean? You are suppose to be the one that operate your site right? So why bothering about not funding your own site with big jackpot? By lowering or may be not supporting your own site will not get you any players to play. In order to make sure people plays on your site you should at least make something, like putting big jackpot which can attract more people to come to your site and play Reading up its just normal for a lottery to accumulate amounts to its players to fill up the pot and basing the win on to that pot it isnt actually needed funds for its owner but on the deduction its way too high just like been said above no one will just wait for a year if funds is escrowed then its considerable but we do see up the demand of lottery games which isnt that interest isnt present which most them do die of sooner or later. Okay, you can saying this if there is a lot of players which do not need to be funded again but the point is they lack of many players. In order to get more players they should bring out their best to make sure people are attracted. The only way is to bring out the big jackpot so everyone can claim for it. What deduction are you saying about? Are you saying about the deduction fee? Im talking about this: The winning amount fully depends on the number of people playing. The 50% of all money goes to the “Jackpot” and 50% are separated between people who got ( 2–5 ) numbers.Is this thing would really be appealing for you? 50% of winning will be put up to the pot and drawn once a year?
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June 19, 2018, 07:11:17 AM |
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We consider one of the biggest benefits of our platform that we as creators or anyone else do not promise to provide our own money for the jackpot. We are doing so because there were thousands of situations where lottery operators cheated in order to save their money. That why we've created such system where players fulfill the jackpot in order to make it the most transparent lottery platform out there.
What do you mean? You are suppose to be the one that operate your site right? So why bothering about not funding your own site with big jackpot? By lowering or may be not supporting your own site will not get you any players to play. In order to make sure people plays on your site you should at least make something, like putting big jackpot which can attract more people to come to your site and play Reading up its just normal for a lottery to accumulate amounts to its players to fill up the pot and basing the win on to that pot it isnt actually needed funds for its owner but on the deduction its way too high just like been said above no one will just wait for a year if funds is escrowed then its considerable but we do see up the demand of lottery games which isnt that interest isnt present which most them do die of sooner or later. Okay, you can saying this if there is a lot of players which do not need to be funded again but the point is they lack of many players. In order to get more players they should bring out their best to make sure people are attracted. The only way is to bring out the big jackpot so everyone can claim for it. What deduction are you saying about? Are you saying about the deduction fee? Im talking about this: The winning amount fully depends on the number of people playing. The 50% of all money goes to the “Jackpot” and 50% are separated between people who got ( 2–5 ) numbers.Is this thing would really be appealing for you? 50% of winning will be put up to the pot and drawn once a year? Basically what it means is as follows. Say that they generated about 100 BTC worth of bets for this lottery (probably never going to happen) The Jackpot winner would get 50 BTC, and the next top 4 winners would probably get something like 12.5BTC each. Not very appealing. Hence the reason why these types of lotteries or raffles even if they are provably fair never really hit it off because you might as well just go on any dice site and play 9900x and hope you win big. That way you get your result right away instead of waiting. Many different raffle and lottery bitcoin sites have tried in the past to be successful and they were all dead in a few months due to lack of interest.
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June 19, 2018, 08:20:19 PM |
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We consider one of the biggest benefits of our platform that we as creators or anyone else do not promise to provide our own money for the jackpot. We are doing so because there were thousands of situations where lottery operators cheated in order to save their money. That why we've created such system where players fulfill the jackpot in order to make it the most transparent lottery platform out there.
What do you mean? You are suppose to be the one that operate your site right? So why bothering about not funding your own site with big jackpot? By lowering or may be not supporting your own site will not get you any players to play. In order to make sure people plays on your site you should at least make something, like putting big jackpot which can attract more people to come to your site and play Reading up its just normal for a lottery to accumulate amounts to its players to fill up the pot and basing the win on to that pot it isnt actually needed funds for its owner but on the deduction its way too high just like been said above no one will just wait for a year if funds is escrowed then its considerable but we do see up the demand of lottery games which isnt that interest isnt present which most them do die of sooner or later. Okay, you can saying this if there is a lot of players which do not need to be funded again but the point is they lack of many players. In order to get more players they should bring out their best to make sure people are attracted. The only way is to bring out the big jackpot so everyone can claim for it. What deduction are you saying about? Are you saying about the deduction fee? Im talking about this: The winning amount fully depends on the number of people playing. The 50% of all money goes to the “Jackpot” and 50% are separated between people who got ( 2–5 ) numbers.Is this thing would really be appealing for you? 50% of winning will be put up to the pot and drawn once a year? Basically what it means is as follows. Say that they generated about 100 BTC worth of bets for this lottery (probably never going to happen) The Jackpot winner would get 50 BTC, and the next top 4 winners would probably get something like 12.5BTC each. Not very appealing. Hence the reason why these types of lotteries or raffles even if they are provably fair never really hit it off because you might as well just go on any dice site and play 9900x and hope you win big. That way you get your result right away instead of waiting. Many different raffle and lottery bitcoin sites have tried in the past to be successful and they were all dead in a few months due to lack of interest. Not only dead on few months ive seen most of them died in a matter of 1-2 weeks after launching. Why? Interest isnt really there and We have seen that most of gamblers are impatient when it comes to result thats why Dice games is booming up because of lightning or blink of an eye giving results compared to these lotteries. How much more they do put out this ridiculous allocation or division of winnings among other players as well. For the division itself it already sucks and the thing makes it worst is that 50% goes to the pot.
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June 21, 2018, 07:42:21 AM |
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We consider one of the biggest benefits of our platform that we as creators or anyone else do not promise to provide our own money for the jackpot. We are doing so because there were thousands of situations where lottery operators cheated in order to save their money. That why we've created such system where players fulfill the jackpot in order to make it the most transparent lottery platform out there.
What do you mean? You are suppose to be the one that operate your site right? So why bothering about not funding your own site with big jackpot? By lowering or may be not supporting your own site will not get you any players to play. In order to make sure people plays on your site you should at least make something, like putting big jackpot which can attract more people to come to your site and play Reading up its just normal for a lottery to accumulate amounts to its players to fill up the pot and basing the win on to that pot it isnt actually needed funds for its owner but on the deduction its way too high just like been said above no one will just wait for a year if funds is escrowed then its considerable but we do see up the demand of lottery games which isnt that interest isnt present which most them do die of sooner or later. Okay, you can saying this if there is a lot of players which do not need to be funded again but the point is they lack of many players. In order to get more players they should bring out their best to make sure people are attracted. The only way is to bring out the big jackpot so everyone can claim for it. What deduction are you saying about? Are you saying about the deduction fee? Im talking about this: The winning amount fully depends on the number of people playing. The 50% of all money goes to the “Jackpot” and 50% are separated between people who got ( 2–5 ) numbers.Is this thing would really be appealing for you? 50% of winning will be put up to the pot and drawn once a year? Basically what it means is as follows. Say that they generated about 100 BTC worth of bets for this lottery (probably never going to happen) The Jackpot winner would get 50 BTC, and the next top 4 winners would probably get something like 12.5BTC each. Not very appealing. Hence the reason why these types of lotteries or raffles even if they are provably fair never really hit it off because you might as well just go on any dice site and play 9900x and hope you win big. That way you get your result right away instead of waiting. Many different raffle and lottery bitcoin sites have tried in the past to be successful and they were all dead in a few months due to lack of interest. Not only dead on few months ive seen most of them died in a matter of 1-2 weeks after launching. Why? Interest isnt really there and We have seen that most of gamblers are impatient when it comes to result thats why Dice games is booming up because of lightning or blink of an eye giving results compared to these lotteries. How much more they do put out this ridiculous allocation or division of winnings among other players as well. For the division itself it already sucks and the thing makes it worst is that 50% goes to the pot. In my opinion there are ways to make a raffle or lottery type of site work and what they require is what all these sites lack and that is incentive. If people were given say a free iPhone for every 100th ticket that they purpose for a lottery or even something smaller like free cloud mining for 24 hours after buying 10 tickets for the raffle, then I could see it working. The site would need to be well trusted and have a great marketing staff pretty much what all of these sites lack. There are many local lotteries that offer something similiar. The main prize is like $1,000,000 which nobody ever wins but if they buy like 10 tickets, some of those profits are donated to charities and such.
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June 21, 2018, 08:01:22 AM |
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We consider one of the biggest benefits of our platform that we as creators or anyone else do not promise to provide our own money for the jackpot. We are doing so because there were thousands of situations where lottery operators cheated in order to save their money. That why we've created such system where players fulfill the jackpot in order to make it the most transparent lottery platform out there.
You have to get a lot of participants for that. With small amount of participants your jackpot will be unattractive and most gamblers will not bother to take part in your lottery. To gain more users you have to spend money on advertising and promo rounds (adding your own money to the jackpot) and only after several months of doing so you can start operating like you say. I wish you good luck of course but imo without ads and promos your chances of being successful are slim. Thank you, for your comment. We as developers understand that such system works perfectly with a lot of users participating so that Jackpot would grove rapidly, but we think that new generation does not trust classic system where we perfectly can see scam actions, and we want to fulfill their demand for a fair and transperant lottery and gaming platform. Advertising team is working on the campaign also we are waiting for the Mobile App.
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