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June 28, 2013, 11:16:05 AM |
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OP is giving major psychopath vibes so this is a warning...do not trust. Ive known quite a few lots of hot air, manipulative responses, grand promises, fake caring (no one cares how much time you put into ftc)... seen it all before Good luck.
Typical! You have no more arguments as they've all been shot down or responded to, so now you attack the guy on a personal level with absolute bollocks. You are the worst sort of person. Fail troll indeed.
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June 28, 2013, 01:50:16 PM |
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what an "interesting" pile of arguments. Lets talk about the reality of crypto in general. Bitcoin - wonderful idea but more concentration was put on coming up with faster ways to mine it than ways to use it. Litecoin- better implementation of the original idea of crypto but again very little concentration on actually being able to buy something with it. (before you get your panties in a bunch think from the viewpoint of John Q Public) further similarity between these 2 is their communities. both started out great with ideas and etc but then quickly turned into a troll playground with stagnation of purpose.
I hold all coins. I lost my BTC wallet awhile back and was in some seriously shitty circumstances and asked this community for help. Exactly one person donated 100 btc which allowed me to basically continue to survive. To this person I sent back 1500 BTC immediately upon locating the proper USB stick. This one person who shall remain nameless demonstrated that there is still a potential for an actual community.
Community is the thing i like most about feathercoin. People talk about fair launches and pre-mining and all that other nonsense. the reality is those that are in the know are always more successful than those that are not. That applies to everything in life.
Feathercoin is promising not because of what has been done with it but because of what is going to be done with it. Most people currently on this forum and others were not around for the beginning of bitcoin. It is easy to determine those that were not because they say things like "has no value" and etc. bitcoin had no value and the people who believed in it did so not because of some value based upon fiat but based upon the idea of crypto in general. If it were not for those of us who saw the potential none of these other coins would exist and bitcoin itself would no longer exist.
So before you sit there at your keyboard and argue with eachother about which coin is better think upon the fact that they all have the potential to change the world. Stop basing your arguments upon fiat value as fiat is the largest "scam coin" ever devised by man.
I cannot really form an opinion based upon this partnership announcement because i do not have enough information but if a partnership is done correctly with the proper motivation it could be huge. Here is hoping the motivation is proper.
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aysyr
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June 28, 2013, 02:56:59 PM |
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I cannot really form an opinion based upon this partnership announcement because i do not have enough information but if a partnership is done correctly with the proper motivation it could be huge. Here is hoping the motivation is proper.
Hey when, just wanted to thank you for the insightful post and invite you to join the forums have you haven't already! Anyways, just wanted to let you know there's additional information regarding the partnership in these links below (one's a video). The coins aren't announced yet, but they're planning a joint announcement, informing all three communities simultaneously. https://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=2137.0https://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=2273.0
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mr_random
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June 28, 2013, 04:07:46 PM |
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I'm concerned about this joint announcement. The process should be open, transparent and allow for voting. Instead we are getting a small number of 'key people' behind the scenes calling all the shots and deciding to 'partner' coins together. These coins are supposed to be decentralized. Where was the gaining of community consensus? Seems like we are just getting this shoved in our face.
I will be pretty pissed if I wake up tomorrow and find out that a good, honest, fair coin like digitalcoin is being tainted with the feathercoin brand and wrapped up in some kind of 'partnership'. I for one don't want the feathercoin attackers who executed the last 51% attack to be drawn towards digitalcoin. Or for DGC to be associated with the feathercoin failures. And people who mine for their own respective coins should feel the same.
I understand the feathercoin bagholders are desperate to hype up anything to do with feathercoin but this just smells bad to me.
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June 28, 2013, 04:13:09 PM |
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I'm concerned about this joint announcement. The process should be open, transparent and allow for voting. Instead we are getting a small number of 'key people' behind the scenes calling all the shots and deciding to 'partner' coins together. These coins are supposed to be decentralized. Where was the gaining of community consensus? Seems like we are just getting this shoved in our face.
I will be pretty pissed if I wake up tomorrow and find out that a good, honest, fair coin like digitalcoin is being tainted with the feathercoin brand and wrapped up in some kind of 'partnership'. I for one don't want the feathercoin attackers who executed the last 51% attack to be drawn towards digitalcoin. Or for DGC to be associated with the feathercoin failures. And people who mine for their own respective coins should feel the same.
I understand the feathercoin bagholders are desperate to hype up anything to do with feathercoin but this just smells bad to me.
If you dont like it, fork DGC if it 'partners' with FTC. If enough other people agree, your fork will be followed, and therefore your opinion will be of the majority. If not, you will be in the minority.
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June 28, 2013, 04:45:23 PM |
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I'm concerned about this joint announcement. The process should be open, transparent and allow for voting. Instead we are getting a small number of 'key people' behind the scenes calling all the shots and deciding to 'partner' coins together. These coins are supposed to be decentralized. Where was the gaining of community consensus? Seems like we are just getting this shoved in our face.
I will be pretty pissed if I wake up tomorrow and find out that a good, honest, fair coin like digitalcoin is being tainted with the feathercoin brand and wrapped up in some kind of 'partnership'. I for one don't want the feathercoin attackers who executed the last 51% attack to be drawn towards digitalcoin. Or for DGC to be associated with the feathercoin failures. And people who mine for their own respective coins should feel the same.
I understand the feathercoin bagholders are desperate to hype up anything to do with feathercoin but this just smells bad to me.
Gaining the consensus of people who don't do anything? What kind of consensus is that? How is it fair to the people who contribute, to have to make decisions according to the wishes of people who just want to cruise through? A bagholder is someone who wishes to bury his treasure and gain from the work of someone else, sweetheart. You have it ass backwards. You care about who you associate with, like it's some moral crusade. Wake up, Dorothy because in the real world you have to be able to shake hands with people you might not like. The measure of failure or success is how you deal with reality not how you associate with history. Voting is what keeps you sedated. Voting is why you have no power or influence. Voting keeps you in board meetings for weeks, while thieves rob your infrastructure. Voting makes you feel like you've done something, when you've accomplished nothing. There is no centralization. If I wanted to fix a tire, I'd talk to a tire expert. If I wanted to partner with another technology, I would talk to developers. You feel left out because you don't influence anything, but this is by choice. You are a consumer by choice. You feel squeezed out by people with more initiative than you. You think you should be comfortable as a consumer, because that's what you've been conditioned to think. There is no centralization because in Feathercoin, everyone is encouraged to explore their talents and influence the coin. You choose to be a bystander. All you want in a coin is just a means of exchange. The problem is reality doesn't care about your expectations. The only way to be secure and successful is to be active. Here's a place to start: http://programming-motherfucker.com/become.html
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EASY CALCULATION FOR TRADES: 1 Million is 1x10e6. 1 Satoshi is 1x10e-8. 1 M sat is 1x10e-2. 100 M sat is 1. If 1 herpcoin = 100 derptoshi then 1 M herpcoin @ 001 derptoshi = 0.01 derpcoin, 1 M herpcoin @ 100 derptoshi = 1.00 derpcoin Post Scarcity Economics thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3773185
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June 28, 2013, 04:54:38 PM |
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Rightly said zero. And to add to that, no brands are mixed with anyone. We're doing what Sunny King does as an individual with other coins (helping them out), but openly as a join community. Every coin is still its individual thing, there won't be any hypothetical merging of anything but shared ideas and thoughts.
The purpose of the whole thing is to help other coins out, not bash them. We're open to constructive criticism with partners, offer assistance in something they might need, give them a footnote in our individual coin's PR actions, and vice versa. Nothing is being branded anything else. The only thing a "regular consumer" would associate the coins for, is hearing about both of them in the same media promotion.
I'm sure many dev's of coins have talked to dev's of other coins asking for help, assistance, or suggestions. Did they inquire the community for a vote to do so? No. This is the same thing, but in an open air environment, where members of each coins' community can also partake in discussion and assistance.
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June 28, 2013, 05:13:21 PM |
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Rightly said zero. And to add to that, no brands are mixed with anyone. We're doing what Sunny King does as an individual with other coins (helping them out), but openly as a join community. Every coin is still its individual thing, there won't be any hypothetical merging of anything but shared ideas and thoughts.
The purpose of the whole thing is to help other coins out, not bash them. We're open to constructive criticism with partners, offer assistance in something they might need, give them a footnote in our individual coin's PR actions, and vice versa. Nothing is being branded anything else. The only thing a "regular consumer" would associate the coins for, is hearing about both of them in the same media promotion.
I'm sure many dev's of coins have talked to dev's of other coins asking for help, assistance, or suggestions. Did they inquire the community for a vote to do so? No. This is the same thing, but in an open air environment, where members of each coins' community can also partake in discussion and assistance.
This whole OMFGWTFURNOTMYFRIEND thing is like idiots attacking a soap opera actor for what the character did to their favorite character.
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EASY CALCULATION FOR TRADES: 1 Million is 1x10e6. 1 Satoshi is 1x10e-8. 1 M sat is 1x10e-2. 100 M sat is 1. If 1 herpcoin = 100 derptoshi then 1 M herpcoin @ 001 derptoshi = 0.01 derpcoin, 1 M herpcoin @ 100 derptoshi = 1.00 derpcoin Post Scarcity Economics thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3773185
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June 28, 2013, 05:21:28 PM |
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Calm your tits , guys. Without hiring me as a marketing expert , there is no chance for this coin. Give me a call +49030-THISLINEISEXPENSIVE ,then type in per MFC : BECAUSEITISAGERMANPREMIUMNUMBER, then you hear the Feathercoin and Bros Song , produced by ICP ,then i promise to pickup after 5 minutes. And i will tell you which secret coins are partnering up with FTC for real !
P.S.: Feathercoin 4 Lyfe.
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June 28, 2013, 05:32:46 PM |
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I raise legitimate concerns about the lack of transparency and democracy in this partnership process and all I'm getting is zerodrama telling me I have it ass-backwards and that I need to learn how to motherfucking program. I question your intelligence when you say voting does not provide influence and accomplishes nothing.
I find it worrying that the 'key people' can 'finalize' these partnerships with no debate or communication with the respective communities of the coins.
You're going to find people respond with the attitude "I'm off to find a coin where I don't need to be a programmer to have a say".
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June 28, 2013, 05:37:03 PM |
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I raise legitimate concerns about the lack of transparency and democracy in this partnership process and all I'm getting is zerodrama telling me I have it ass-backwards and that I need to learn how to motherfucking program. I question your intelligence when you say voting does not provide influence and accomplishes nothing.
I find it worrying that the 'key people' can 'finalize' these partnerships with no debate or communication with the respective communities of the coins.
You're going to find people respond with the attitude "I'm off to find a coin where I don't need to be a programmer to have a say".
Vote with your Wallet and your Miners.
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June 28, 2013, 05:45:19 PM |
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pump 'n dump you say?
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June 28, 2013, 06:10:23 PM Last edit: June 28, 2013, 06:21:14 PM by zerodrama |
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I question your intelligence when you say voting does not provide influence and accomplishes nothing.
Voting does not give you a say. Voting takes the freedom to achieve from everyone else. There is a reason people say democracy is the original 51% attack. Voting teaches the second class to be as blood thirsty as the ones on top. I find it worrying that the 'key people' can 'finalize' these partnerships with no debate or communication with the respective communities of the coins.
It's not a corporation making deals in a dark lair. Partnership means we are willing to help them succeed when they are attacked because hashes are hashes and coins are just brand names for hashes. You're going to find people respond with the attitude "I'm off to find a coin where I don't need to be a programmer to have a say".
You want to have a say in something you don't actually use or contribute to. You want the rest of the community to wait for you to make up your mind simply because you hold coins. You're intentionally misconstruing here. Reality decides how you have a say. I can program, I have a say. Someone else can draw, they have a say. Someone else can make jokes, they have a say. Voting is a worthless placebo. My contribution IS MY SAY. If I want to have a feature in the code, I code it. If I want to have a contest, I open a thread. If I want to make a bet on a sports game, I open a thread. IT IS THAT EASY. No voting necessary. The reason I said learn to program, is because you are choosing not to learn. Anyone can learn to program, draw, entertain, some are more efficient at it. Adapt to reality rather than use crutches like voting.
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EASY CALCULATION FOR TRADES: 1 Million is 1x10e6. 1 Satoshi is 1x10e-8. 1 M sat is 1x10e-2. 100 M sat is 1. If 1 herpcoin = 100 derptoshi then 1 M herpcoin @ 001 derptoshi = 0.01 derpcoin, 1 M herpcoin @ 100 derptoshi = 1.00 derpcoin Post Scarcity Economics thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3773185
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June 28, 2013, 06:35:39 PM |
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I can't program and I can't draw but, I have a say in what is going on because I put a lot of effort and time into Feathercoin. Those that put in the time and effort have a say. It is as simple as that.
So far, the only people to complain are the people that hate Feathercoin. This suggests that the people who hate Feathercoin fear what this partnership might be capable of.
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zerodrama
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June 28, 2013, 06:47:29 PM |
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I can't program and I can't draw but, I have a say in what is going on because I put a lot of effort and time into Feathercoin. Those that put in the time and effort have a say. It is as simple as that.
So far, the only people to complain are the people that hate Feathercoin. This suggests that the people who hate Feathercoin fear what this partnership might be capable of.
You aren't alive anywhere like you're alive at fight club.... Fight club isn't about winning or losing fights. Fight club isn't about words. You see a guy come to fight club for the first time, and his ass is a loaf of white bread. You see this same guy here six months later, and he looks carved out of wood. This guy trusts himself to handle anything. There's grunting and noise at fight club like at the gym, but fight club isn't about looking good. There's hysterical shouting in tongues like at church, and when you wake up Sunday afternoon you feel saved. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
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EASY CALCULATION FOR TRADES: 1 Million is 1x10e6. 1 Satoshi is 1x10e-8. 1 M sat is 1x10e-2. 100 M sat is 1. If 1 herpcoin = 100 derptoshi then 1 M herpcoin @ 001 derptoshi = 0.01 derpcoin, 1 M herpcoin @ 100 derptoshi = 1.00 derpcoin Post Scarcity Economics thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3773185
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June 29, 2013, 05:48:00 AM |
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Personally I don't care how cool the people using the same money as me are, I care about being able to use my money to buy things. Either now or in the future. The developer clearly has no respect for that, because he lacks the technical ability to ensure that outcome.
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June 29, 2013, 03:43:13 PM |
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Great news for phenix Better get to mining
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zerodrama
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June 30, 2013, 09:56:13 PM |
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Personally I don't care how cool the people using the same money as me are, I care about being able to use my money to buy things. Either now or in the future. The developer clearly has no respect for that, because he lacks the technical ability to ensure that outcome.
this is based on what now?
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EASY CALCULATION FOR TRADES: 1 Million is 1x10e6. 1 Satoshi is 1x10e-8. 1 M sat is 1x10e-2. 100 M sat is 1. If 1 herpcoin = 100 derptoshi then 1 M herpcoin @ 001 derptoshi = 0.01 derpcoin, 1 M herpcoin @ 100 derptoshi = 1.00 derpcoin Post Scarcity Economics thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3773185
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True___Blue
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July 03, 2013, 02:08:55 AM |
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So I updated my Litecoin QT but my Feather coin QT is still telling me "out of sync" and is not updating.
Any thoughts?
Edit: never mind, it updated. But it still wants me to update my Litecoin (re-update?)]
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July 03, 2013, 04:57:22 AM |
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I have tried Feathercoin it is syncing nicely. Can it be your network?
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