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June 29, 2013, 08:32:54 AM
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Is there a forum software (like simple machines) which has a module that help to identify and remove sock puppets?



Almost all main forum software (Mybb,Xenforo,IPB,vbulletin) have that plugin.

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June 29, 2013, 09:17:27 AM
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Personally I think litecoin has the power to grow.  I don't think it should be an "alt coin" as much as a different flavor of crypto coin.   
Power to grow or not, it is an altcoin. Period.
Also, if you accept altcoins it won't be 'Bitcointalk 2.0' but 'Cryptocoin 1.0'

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June 29, 2013, 09:38:16 AM
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Personally I think litecoin has the power to grow.  I don't think it should be an "alt coin" as much as a different flavor of crypto coin.   
Power to grow or not, it is an altcoin. Period.
Also, if you accept altcoins it won't be 'Bitcointalk 2.0' but 'Cryptocoin 1.0'

I support Cryptocoin name.
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June 29, 2013, 10:14:41 AM
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This forums either needs to be cleaned up & add more useful features, or we need a new one simple as that. The amount of sock puppets is unbelievable. There's ways to prevent that. Very simple ways too. I know it will only prevent sock puppets but at the moment nothing is being done about it. The new forum would be nice to have a mobile version, eg Tapatalk. Just because I use this forum a lot on my phone in and out of work maybe not the best software to use as I don't like Tapatalk for many reasons.

Obviously have a nice catchy name. Also, pick you're staff wisely. I had to report a mod the other day on the thread that you made. You know who I'm on about the homophobic guy. Turns out he deleted my post after I didn't say anything offensive whatsoever. So pick you're mods wisely.

Also, I think instead of everyone posting "Hi I'm new". Maybe you should just have one thread which covers that. It saves space and people who actually ask questions when they new always get drowned out because of the "Hi I'm new here" threads. Maybe that's why the newbie restrictions are so hated. Don't get me wrong I think the newbie thing is perfect. It prevents people who just register to ask a question from spamming the main threads.

 Also, I would have a forum games section. So that would be home to the "Think of the first word that comes to mind" threads. It prevents spamming. Plus it will minimise the mods workload. I have seen these games in Bitcoin discussion & gambling....Yeah gambling.


EDIT: Have a privacy policy. A decent one. The big down fall of this forum is the privacy policy, or the lack of one.
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June 29, 2013, 11:57:11 AM
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Thank you all for your contributions.  This is turning into a great discussion.  I look forward to reading about other things that we could do toward building a better community!

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June 29, 2013, 01:54:30 PM
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This forums either needs to be cleaned up & add more useful features, or we need a new one simple as that. The amount of sock puppets is unbelievable. There's ways to prevent that. Very simple ways too. I know it will only prevent sock puppets but at the moment nothing is being done about it. The new forum would be nice to have a mobile version, eg Tapatalk. Just because I use this forum a lot on my phone in and out of work.

Obviously have a nice catchy name. Also, pick you're staff wisely. I had to report a mod the other day on the thread that you made. You know who I'm on about the homophobic guy. Turns out he deleted my post after I didn't say anything offensive whatsoever. So pick you're mods wisely.

Also, I think instead of everyone posting "Hi I'm new". Maybe you should just have one thread which covers that. It saves space and people who actually ask questions when they new always get drowned out because of the "Hi I'm new here" threads. Maybe that's why the newbie restrictions are so hated. Don't get me wrong I think the newbie thing is perfect. It prevents people who just register to ask a question from spamming the main threads.

 Also, I would have a forum games section. So that would be home to the "Think of the first word that comes to mind" threads. It prevents spamming. Plus it will minimise the mods workload. I have seen these games in Bitcoin discussion & gambling....Yeah gambling.


EDIT: Have a privacy policy. A decent one. The big down fall of this forum is the privacy policy, or the lack of one.

These are great points although I'm sure it would be easy to solve the "I'm new here" threads issue.

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June 29, 2013, 04:57:01 PM
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I can see, right away, that this thread needs a secretary.  Anyone want to volunteer to keep all the points straight?  
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June 29, 2013, 08:50:48 PM
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Preventing sock puppets would be a huge step in the right direction and help to curb the scams.
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June 29, 2013, 09:50:32 PM
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I can see, right away, that this thread needs a secretary.  Anyone want to volunteer to keep all the points straight?  

Is LGBT not allowed? Smiley
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June 29, 2013, 11:54:08 PM
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What would you do different if you were in charge of this forum?

Almost everything Smiley   Count me in for the move, I've been saying this place has gone to the dogs for quite a while now.
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June 29, 2013, 11:58:03 PM
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I'll tell you what I think there should be a policy against sock puppetry. 

There must be a simple machine module that helps identify and prevent sock puppets, yea?  With fewer sock puppets running around I would think it would be much easier to help a person reclaim a hacked account. 

What process have you had to go through to try to reclaim the pizza account? 



+1 - I only have the one account - multiple accounts pisses people off

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June 30, 2013, 09:30:33 AM
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I would be interested in this project. I don't like the fact that if you're high ranking member of this forum you can get away with pretty much anything .
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June 30, 2013, 02:18:58 PM
Last edit: June 30, 2013, 06:37:42 PM by hamiltino
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You can get the forum up now; figure out appropriate forum boards,  get a few moderators. Workout some forum rules that will differentiate yourself from bitcointalk. Choose the forum software, i recommend phpBB https://www.phpbb.com/

The Original Post should be organized in sections explaining what needs to be done that the community can figure out right now. He then should constantly update the post once he gets more answers/feedback. I don't think calling for help in the air without specifying everything is the most efficient thing to do.

Example:

The amount of Staff required and the prerequisites.
Forum Software.
What boards we should have.
What rules

Specify what you want and you will get answers. Then you should constantly update the OP until you are ready to implement everything.


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June 30, 2013, 03:07:50 PM
Last edit: June 30, 2013, 03:50:36 PM by Viceroy
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Launching another forum is trivial, that is not the issue.  What we are doing at this point is exploring what exactly needs to be fixed.  If we can identify some major areas for improvement then we can start to address those issues.  Launching a forum today is putting the cart WAY before the horse.

I do like your "main headings" but there is a ton of sub content (rules) that we haven't even discussed yet.  Perhaps you'd like to go through the posts and generate a list of bullet points so we can start to organize this group-think project?  


edit:  thank you for this!

Brand:
 -Cryptocoin or Bitcoin only???
 -Catchy - easy to remember name

Possible Platforms:
     -Discourse
     -Xenforo
     -MyBB
     -SMF


Mandatory Requirements:

Good Design
  - Anonymous or Transparent?
    > what form of company is the forum?
    > what country should the forum be hosted in?
  - The site should be modern
  - Better mobile platform support
     > Tapatalk?
  - Better social media support
     > Integrate with Facebook or other?

Rules:
  - Defined Up Front
     > Terms of Service
     > Privacy Policy
     > Moderation Policy
        o - deleting spam posts
        o - sock puppet ban
        o - bans on users that are obvious scammers
        o - qualifications for perma-ban (what constitutes a ban?)
     > Moderators
        o - volunteed vs paid
        o - how selected
        o - how removed



What should be added or removed to/from this list?

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June 30, 2013, 03:52:13 PM
Last edit: June 30, 2013, 04:02:36 PM by jackjack
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Be strict about '+1's
Make a popularity count (using very-established users opinions only)
Display posts count+registration date next to avatar
Put posting limits: no more than 1 post per hour (or 2, or 0.5, or whatever you think would fit) during the first week after registration. Then 2p/h during the second, etc.
IMO mobile phone support is not a top priority

Edit1: be clear about the acceptance of altcoins

Edit2: personal opinions
NO social media support!
NO tracking like Google analytics or shit like this at all
Mods paid by users through public donation addresses

Edit3: no ads in signatures allowed
Or if people find this too anti-freedom.of.speech, no colours/glow/big font

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June 30, 2013, 04:30:15 PM
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It would be cool if when you sign up, you also register a Bitcoin address. To modify any  profile settings you must sign a message with that address to have it saved. This address could also be used if password is lost or forgotten or to prove someone else has your account.
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June 30, 2013, 04:37:32 PM
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I have created a new thread specifically to discuss the forum software choice.  


Possible Platforms:  (vote here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246936.0)
     -Discourse
     -Xenforo
     -MyBB
     -SMF

dillpicklechips, that's an awesome idea.  Would you propose it in the thread above?
jackjack would you do the same?

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June 30, 2013, 04:58:19 PM
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I've been reading up on Bitmessage lately. Wouldn't it be possible in theory to build a forum that uses Bitmessage as the backend? Run a node that archives the messages and creates a web interface to the discussion. If someone doesn't want to run Bitmessage to communicate, a web interface can be provided.
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June 30, 2013, 05:05:56 PM
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Make an invitation system, every registered member will have number of available invites that he can share.
Create a special thread for guests that can ask for invitations, maybe a daily invitation give away thread.


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June 30, 2013, 05:07:51 PM
Last edit: June 30, 2013, 05:21:50 PM by jackjack
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I think it would be a good idea to create now a new forum (I mean outside bitcointalk) to discuss all the ideas: one thread per idea would be much easier to manage
I'd do this if you want


Edit: I didn't see your previous post. Let me put internet on my laptop and I'll look at that link

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