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September 21, 2013, 04:44:01 AM |
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Not sure why your charging 4.895 for a Blade when I have can one expressed from the US for 3.6btc + .6 for shipping.
+ VAT
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September 21, 2013, 07:06:40 AM |
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Not sure why your charging 4.895 for a Blade when I have can one expressed from the US for 3.6btc + .6 for shipping.
+ VAT 4.895-20% = 3.916 So he is charging a minimum of ~.6 for shipping and profit. I assume he pays around the same bulk for blades as SSB/canary
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September 21, 2013, 11:41:06 AM Last edit: September 21, 2013, 01:17:53 PM by Jorgeminator |
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Ordered last Tuesday and haven't got a tracking number yet, how long does it usually take this guy to ship? EDIT: All OK. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 21, 2013, 03:45:06 PM |
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sorry, there was a few tracking# not typed into shopsystem --> fixed
lowered the prices in the shop also
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September 21, 2013, 05:55:19 PM |
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new prices:Block Erupter USBMenge | Preis | 1-200 > 200
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------------------------ Block Erupter blade *new version*4.9 BTC* per unit Asicminer Block Erupter Blade Set Including 10x new blades, 1x backplane, 1x ATSN 7001044-Y000 or HP DPS 800GBA PSU (used). 41.99 BTC* ------------------------ * all prices incl. VAT, plus shipping from Germany, NO trouble with customs within the EU Payment is possible in BTC and € (bank transfer / SEPA). shipping only with tracking and after prepayment. For orders with a valid EU VAT number, or deliveries to non-EU countries Please contact us at: novat@asicminer-shop.de
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September 21, 2013, 06:03:43 PM |
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Not sure why your charging 4.895 for a Blade when I have can one expressed from the US for 3.6btc + .6 for shipping.
+ VAT 4.895-20% = 3.916 So he is charging a minimum of ~.6 for shipping and profit. I assume he pays around the same bulk for blades as SSB/canary Nice to know he got mad at me posting the REAL prices, and deleted my post. Then told me to get my own thread, which if he noticed is sold out. You cant suppress the truth. And for your information I have a proper export license for the EU, and build in VAT to all my purchases going to the EU.
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September 21, 2013, 06:06:15 PM |
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Received Order #875.
Everything is ok, but the postage time on DHL's part was retarded.
yxt books the shipping on Monday, it gets delivered to DHL on Tuesday, then it sits in germany until Thursday, Friday its in the UK and I pick it up today.
Nothing wrong on yxt's side, but DHL need to pull their finger out their arse.
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September 21, 2013, 06:14:43 PM |
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Not sure why your charging 4.895 for a Blade when I have can one expressed from the US for 3.6btc + .6 for shipping.
+ VAT 4.895-20% = 3.916 So he is charging a minimum of ~.6 for shipping and profit. I assume he pays around the same bulk for blades as SSB/canary Nice to know he got mad at me posting the REAL prices, and deleted my post. Then told me to get my own thread, which if he noticed is sold out. You cant suppress the truth. And for your information I have a proper export license for the EU, and build in VAT to all my purchases going to the EU. "This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. " thats what I told you, pls sell your stuff not here... but ok lets calc 3.6 + 0.6 = 4.2 +~20% VAT = 5.04 , you can't include EU VAT into your price. our new price is 4.9 + 0.19 shipping with full insurance = 5.09 And its not only VAT, we have to pay a lot of taxes, as we act as a registered company. There are also EU consumer protection laws we have to consider in our price...
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September 21, 2013, 06:22:38 PM |
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Not sure why your charging 4.895 for a Blade when I have can one expressed from the US for 3.6btc + .6 for shipping.
+ VAT 4.895-20% = 3.916 So he is charging a minimum of ~.6 for shipping and profit. I assume he pays around the same bulk for blades as SSB/canary Nice to know he got mad at me posting the REAL prices, and deleted my post. Then told me to get my own thread, which if he noticed is sold out. You cant suppress the truth. And for your information I have a proper export license for the EU, and build in VAT to all my purchases going to the EU. "This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. " thats what I told you, pls sell your stuff not here... but ok lets calc 3.6 + 0.6 = 4.2 +~20% VAT = 5.04 , you can't include EU VAT into your price. our new price is 4.9 + 0.19 shipping with full insurance = 5.09 And its not only VAT, we have to pay a lot of taxes, as we act as a registered company. There are also EU consumer protection laws we have to consider in our price... I am also a registered business, and have to pay taxes. 3.6 is the price I sell it for, but They cost you and I less than 3.3 in the bulk we buy. So more like 3.3 +.6 + vat. Not sure under what grounds "you can't include EU VAT into your price." as I am exporting goods into the EU and therefore subject to VAT. What EU consumer protection laws would cause you to charge more? Theres consumer protection laws in the US and you dont see SSB or canary charging extra. And for the 2nd time, I am not selling anything. Not soliciting not selling. http://export.gov/europeanunion/marketresearch/sellingusproductsandservicesintheeu/index.asphttp://buyusainfo.net/docs/x_7292727.pdf < VAT for US companies info
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September 21, 2013, 06:26:27 PM |
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You have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not going to discuss further with you here.
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September 21, 2013, 07:21:22 PM |
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
lol ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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September 21, 2013, 08:50:01 PM |
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
lol ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Exactly. Im like.... what
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September 22, 2013, 11:34:02 PM |
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Block Erupter blade *new version*5.3 BTC* per unit Asicminer Block Erupter Blade Set Including 10x new blades, 1x backplane, 1x ATSN 7001044-Y000 PSU (used). 49.999 BTC* ------------------------ * all prices incl. VAT, plus shipping from Germany, NO trouble with customs within the EU For orders with a valid EU VAT number, or deliveries to non-EU countries Please contact us at: novat@asicminer-shop.deATSN 7001044-Y000 PSU: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fabload.de%2Fimg%2F2013-09-1222.54.47ccxec.jpg&t=665&c=g5qcUCvuer412w) We are glad to introduce our new model of Block Erupter Blades to the market. The hashing unit, the power module, and the ethernet controller are now integrated into one board, resulting in a more compact design with higher computation density. Besides the original power connector, the plug-able gold fingers are added to the blade. The blades are also complemented with a back-plane for them to fit in (10 in 1). It makes deployment easier and quicker. While the back-plane is compatible with any normal PSUs with its cable-based connector, it also offers a slot for a certain brand of widely available PSUs ( Part Number: HP DPS 800GBA or ATSN 7001044-Y000). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs5.postimg.org%2Ff3mtrkhhv%2FIMG_2263.jpg&t=665&c=6a0kYc3lfpmN1w) Notes:1. Please make sure that the polarity of PSUs matches the polarity on the backplane. If you are connecting the blades to the PSU without backplane, please also make sure that the polarity matches each other. Block Erupter blade *old version*Quantity | Price | 1-6 7-29 > 30
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------------------------ * all prices incl. VAT, plus shipping from Germany, NO trouble with customs within the EU Hashrate: baseline 10GHash/s, rated 10.752GHash/s, maximum 12.829GHash/s with overclocking and proper cooling Power Consumption: 70-75W on 1.03-1.05V, 83W on 1.1V, 100W on 1.2V, 120W on 1.2V and overclocking Hasher size: 233mm x 116mm with a 227mm x 100mm x 19mm heat sink attached to its back Power module size: 192mm x 89mm Ethernet controller size: 86mm x 40mm
free shipping for all Electrum developers and server operators. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLqepfe3.jpg&t=665&c=U6D2rGrehB0NYQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F2iicpac.jpg&t=665&c=boGcmV2ai8RqaQ) Hello, where to get new infos and specs about Blade new version? Are hashrate, power consuption and so on the same of old version?
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September 23, 2013, 06:04:03 PM Last edit: September 24, 2013, 05:26:20 PM by BCmale |
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simpic, I received my *new version* unit last thursday and set it up today. It took me six days from the day of the order for the product to arrive. The unit started to rise slowly from 5 Ghash/s to 10,9 Ghash/s. It stays steady at 10,9. I've never owned or even seen an asic, but I have done some soldering & stuff in the past (now and then). I'd still say that this new Blade is quite easy to set up even for an asic amateur. I don't know about the power consumption, as my PC (which acts as the stratum server) is connected to my wattage meter (not the asic's psu), and at least right now, I'm not that interested in swapping that vice versa. I'd think that compact design would make this miner more efficient than the older one.
EDIT: fixed Thash to Ghash.
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September 23, 2013, 09:22:33 PM |
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The only difference is that the old blades can run at 10.9GH/s but are also capable of overclocking to around 13GH/s, and obviously the size ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) With that said the power consumption for old and new blades at the same speed (i.e. not overclocked) should be roughly the same.
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September 24, 2013, 03:25:40 PM |
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Not sure why your charging 4.895 for a Blade when I have can one expressed from the US for 3.6btc + .6 for shipping.
+ VAT 4.895-20% = 3.916 So he is charging a minimum of ~.6 for shipping and profit. I assume he pays around the same bulk for blades as SSB/canary Nice to know he got mad at me posting the REAL prices, and deleted my post. Then told me to get my own thread, which if he noticed is sold out. You cant suppress the truth. And for your information I have a proper export license for the EU, and build in VAT to all my purchases going to the EU. "This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. " thats what I told you, pls sell your stuff not here... but ok lets calc 3.6 + 0.6 = 4.2 +~20% VAT = 5.04 , you can't include EU VAT into your price. our new price is 4.9 + 0.19 shipping with full insurance = 5.09 And its not only VAT, we have to pay a lot of taxes, as we act as a registered company. There are also EU consumer protection laws we have to consider in our price... Monopoly is bad... What taxes you pay? You can have tax refund also. Ssboom is selling bulk 3.3 btc, you get for 2.8 or less shipping free and minimal customs fee. Sipping a blade cost is minimal about 0.10 btc max uninsured. Please cut your huge margin a bit, get 0.3 per blade dont be greedy. You will get more sales and everyone will be happy. Now prices are ridiculous.
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September 24, 2013, 06:39:03 PM |
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simpic, I received my *new version* unit last thursday and set it up today. It took me six days from the day of the order for the product to arrive. The unit started to rise slowly from 5 Ghash/s to 10,9 Ghash/s. It stays steady at 10,9. I've never owned or even seen an asic, but I have done some soldering & stuff in the past (now and then). I'd still say that this new Blade is quite easy to set up even for an asic amateur. I don't know about the power consumption, as my PC (which acts as the stratum server) is connected to my wattage meter (not the asic's psu), and at least right now, I'm not that interested in swapping that vice versa. I'd think that compact design would make this miner more efficient than the older one.
EDIT: fixed Thash to Ghash.
The only difference is that the old blades can run at 10.9GH/s but are also capable of overclocking to around 13GH/s, and obviously the size ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) With that said the power consumption for old and new blades at the same speed (i.e. not overclocked) should be roughly the same. Thank you so much for your replies. Monopoly is bad... What taxes you pay? You can have tax refund also. Ssboom is selling bulk 3.3 btc, you get for 2.8 or less shipping free and minimal customs fee. Sipping a blade cost is minimal about 0.10 btc max uninsured. Please cut your huge margin a bit, get 0.3 per blade dont be greedy. You will get more sales and everyone will be happy. Now prices are ridiculous. Who is Ssboom? Where to get Blades at cheaper price?
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You guys that are not in Europe(The netherlands, Germany and England) Dont know what they are talking, The tax is 21% here. plus you have to pay extra import duty. And no you cant get it back. END OF DISCUSSION.
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September 24, 2013, 10:55:28 PM |
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You guys that are not in Europe(The netherlands, Germany and England)
Huh? I know us Brits want out of Europe, but at least wait for us to throw our toys out the pram first ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) .
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