[ANN] Symmetry - The Safer Cryptocurrency Fund with a Monthly Dividend.

[bootlegneurons]

Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....

How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?

Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...

The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...

Can anyone shed some light?

I believe - but not 100% sure - that if a Telegram channel is deleted by its owners, then anyone else is free to register a channel with the same name. Read up a few pages, I raised this point and somebody here said that they created the channel to prevent further people falling victim.

[anonymous779]

Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....

How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?

Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...

The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...

Can anyone shed some light?

I believe - but not 100% sure - that if a Telegram channel is deleted by its owners, then anyone else is free to register a channel with the same name. Read up a few pages, I raised this point and somebody here said that they created the channel to prevent further people falling victim.

Well that make sense. I also called Polaris Investment Advisory AG in Zurich and they confirmed that Mike Henkel is neither a partner in the firm or a known member in the Swiss financial advisory board. They also confirmed that they have denounced him to the appropriate jurisdiction.

So why don't we organize ourselves, try to find these bastards and make them pay?

[rijnsent]

Next time, before calling them, do read the posts... As I wrote in my initial post ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2480514.msg28957307#msg28957307 ):

• I emailed Polaris Investors AG, the company of the advisor "Mike Henkel". Their quick reply was "We were not aware of the fact that apparently people are using our name on Linkedin. This guy seems to be a fake and does not work with us. Honestly, I would not touch an ICO where a guy claims to be an advisor if he uses firm names randomly". And I got a kind remark that they would short SYMM  .
• I can add to that: Tom Capital also mailed back to me that they don't know any Oliver Purr, so please don't call them .
• Directly after I made my post I reached out to all the ICO review sites that had them on their site and luckily some of those sites responded quickly by at least adding a remark with their article.
• In LinkedIn, I marked all team & advisor profiles as fake. Please do so too.
• I sent a note to the moderator of this thread to change the title to "SCAM...", but unfortunately that's not allowed by the forum rules:
  From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0:
  

  Q: Why haven't you banned <insert scammer username here> who is an obvious scammer?
  A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.

I do like the idea of finding these scammers, but they covered their asses pretty well. I got the suggestion that maybe Europol might be a good entry point, but they point you back to your national police ( https://www.europol.europa.eu/report-a-crime/report-cybercrime-online ).

Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....

How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?

Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...

The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...

Can anyone shed some light?

I believe - but not 100% sure - that if a Telegram channel is deleted by its owners, then anyone else is free to register a channel with the same name. Read up a few pages, I raised this point and somebody here said that they created the channel to prevent further people falling victim.

Well that make sense. I also called Polaris Investment Advisory AG in Zurich and they confirmed that Mike Henkel is neither a partner in the firm or a known member in the Swiss financial advisory board. They also confirmed that they have denounced him to the appropriate jurisdiction.

So why don't we organize ourselves, try to find these bastards and make them pay?

[Pflit]

In Etherscan i still find a lot of advertisements from symmetry fund.  Sponsored Link is standing randomly with other crypto advertisements on transaction hash pages :   Symmetry Fund - 10 Last Days. Only 7.5% Commission. Dividends Paid In ETH Each Month. Join Today!

They even can still advertise in google because the page is still showing me the google ad banners on : https://www.investing.com/studios/article-77

[Andrei_Workout]

strange, the numbers on the site are growing, advertising on the coinmarket turns, and then they say that the scam, if it's intended, by the team itself, so as not to pay hunters, it's generally shameful.

[Desobediente]

I got the suggestion that maybe Europol might be a good entry point, but they point you back to your national police

Done.

[deadthings]

strange, the numbers on the site are growing, advertising on the coinmarket turns, and then they say that the scam, if it's intended, by the team itself, so as not to pay hunters, it's generally shameful.

It is not strange. They paid for advertising in external services in advance, before shit hit the fan. At this point, we can certainly say that the project has been abandoned and everything was fake just to scam investors. I assure you that from the beginning they didn't even think about paying anything bounty hunters at all.

[Andrei_Workout]

strange, the numbers on the site are growing, advertising on the coinmarket turns, and then they say that the scam, if it's intended, by the team itself, so as not to pay hunters, it's generally shameful.

It is not strange. They paid for advertising in external services in advance, before shit hit the fan. At this point, we can certainly say that the project has been abandoned and everything was fake just to scam investors. I assure you that from the beginning they didn't even think about paying anything bounty hunters at all.

yes, most likely everything was conceived in advance, even the counter is still growing, and to respond and mark the tables stopped only in the last week

[Crypto4K]

Next time, before calling them, do read the posts... As I wrote in my initial post ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2480514.msg28957307#msg28957307 ):

• I emailed Polaris Investors AG, the company of the advisor "Mike Henkel". Their quick reply was "We were not aware of the fact that apparently people are using our name on Linkedin. This guy seems to be a fake and does not work with us. Honestly, I would not touch an ICO where a guy claims to be an advisor if he uses firm names randomly". And I got a kind remark that they would short SYMM  .
• I can add to that: Tom Capital also mailed back to me that they don't know any Oliver Purr, so please don't call them .
• Directly after I made my post I reached out to all the ICO review sites that had them on their site and luckily some of those sites responded quickly by at least adding a remark with their article.
• In LinkedIn, I marked all team & advisor profiles as fake. Please do so too.
• I sent a note to the moderator of this thread to change the title to "SCAM...", but unfortunately that's not allowed by the forum rules:
  From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0:
  

  Q: Why haven't you banned <insert scammer username here> who is an obvious scammer?
  A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.

I do like the idea of finding these scammers, but they covered their asses pretty well. I got the suggestion that maybe Europol might be a good entry point, but they point you back to your national police ( https://www.europol.europa.eu/report-a-crime/report-cybercrime-online ).

This is so sad... Feeling sorry for you guys and all the lost coins. 
Always check Team, check website registration, check enterprise behind it, check the concept, talk to other people, read about it on forums, google for it together with the word scam.

[oli40]

Well, I would just like to thank those who exposed the scam.
I must admit they had me going, I was ready to invest, after some talks on telegram.
So really grateful that others did more thorough investigation than I did.
And sorry for those who had already fallen for them.

[ivanserfg]

вpeмя oт вpeмeни зaxoжy,  в нaдeждe yвидeть зaпиcь, кoмaндa пoявилacь, пpoeкт пpoдoлжaтe движeния, вce вcтaлo нa cвoи мecтa, нo пoкa к coжaлeнию тишинa.

[deadthings]

Well, I would just like to thank those who exposed the scam.
I must admit they had me going, I was ready to invest, after some talks on telegram.
So really grateful that others did more thorough investigation than I did.
And sorry for those who had already fallen for them.

They cheat me, fortunately I didn't lose much, but I already started to talk with two friends about invest here. I've almost convinced them. Fortunately, before they  deposit anything, the whole scam comes out.

[ivanserfg]

Well, I would just like to thank those who exposed the scam.
I must admit they had me going, I was ready to invest, after some talks on telegram.
So really grateful that others did more thorough investigation than I did.
And sorry for those who had already fallen for them.

They cheat me, fortunately I didn't lose much, but I already started to talk with two friends about invest here. I've almost convinced them. Fortunately, before they  deposit anything, the whole scam comes out.

  дa тaк мaлo тoгo, чтo cвoe пoтepяeшь, eщe и лишишьcя дoвepия дpyзeй, Я был yвepeн. чтo вce c кoмпaниeй бyдeт oк. Cбopы шли, peклaмa нa cтopoнниx pecypcax a peзyльтaт, мoшeничecтвo.

[kaya11]

Well, I would just like to thank those who exposed the scam.
I must admit they had me going, I was ready to invest, after some talks on telegram.
So really grateful that others did more thorough investigation than I did.
And sorry for those who had already fallen for them.

They cheat me, fortunately I didn't lose much, but I already started to talk with two friends about invest here. I've almost convinced them. Fortunately, before they  deposit anything, the whole scam comes out.

I was aware of it too from day 1. They have posted their Bounty thread and research a bit of the website and gone shady about the backgrounds of the some of the photos out there. I saw some photos that was used by other ICOs too.

When I ask about why is it only and 360 symm, they cannot answer and said "talk to the bounty manager' and when I asked arteezy bout it he said talk to the team. And that's a redflag for me. 360 symmetry? Even in signature campaign for only 10 people cannot cover the payment but still they continue the bounty and later on after 2 weeks they have change it to 3600 symm. But still it won't be enough to pay people who are still entering campaign and they did't even have a limit.

[StarSLight]

Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....

How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?

Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...

The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...

Can anyone shed some light?

I, too, can not understand anything in this situation, everything is very strange and confusing. It would be nice if someone gave an explanation

[StarSLight]

Well, I would just like to thank those who exposed the scam.
I must admit they had me going, I was ready to invest, after some talks on telegram.
So really grateful that others did more thorough investigation than I did.
And sorry for those who had already fallen for them.

They cheat me, fortunately I didn't lose much, but I already started to talk with two friends about invest here. I've almost convinced them. Fortunately, before they  deposit anything, the whole scam comes out.

I was aware of it too from day 1. They have posted their Bounty thread and research a bit of the website and gone shady about the backgrounds of the some of the photos out there. I saw some photos that was used by other ICOs too.

When I ask about why is it only and 360 symm, they cannot answer and said "talk to the bounty manager' and when I asked arteezy bout it he said talk to the team. And that's a redflag for me. 360 symmetry? Even in signature campaign for only 10 people cannot cover the payment but still they continue the bounty and later on after 2 weeks they have change it to 3600 symm. But still it won't be enough to pay people who are still entering campaign and they did't even have a limit.

I had the same situation. I turned to the manager-he directed me to the team, they told me the same thing. This is some kind of nonsense

[Andrei_Workout]

the team did not appear, they could take a break, and everything was set up, because in fact there was almost collected the necessary amount

[Andrei_Workout]

Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....

How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?

Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...

The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...

Can anyone shed some light?

I, too, can not understand anything in this situation, everything is very strange and confusing. It would be nice if someone gave an explanation

since none of the representatives of the team is responding, apparently the project still had a run, collected loot and fled.

[StarSLight]

Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....

How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?

Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...

The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...

Can anyone shed some light?

I, too, can not understand anything in this situation, everything is very strange and confusing. It would be nice if someone gave an explanation

since none of the representatives of the team is responding, apparently the project still had a run, collected loot and fled.

Unfortunately, all the facts and recent events indicate exactly that. Now I do not know what to do-forget about it or continue to wait for news

[deadthings]

Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....

How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?

Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...

The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...

Can anyone shed some light?

I, too, can not understand anything in this situation, everything is very strange and confusing. It would be nice if someone gave an explanation

since none of the representatives of the team is responding, apparently the project still had a run, collected loot and fled.

Unfortunately, all the facts and recent events indicate exactly that. Now I do not know what to do-forget about it or continue to wait for news

We have no choice, we can only wait for news.. Unfortunately, all evidence says, that even if dev team come back, it will be very difficult to rebuild this project and investors trust..