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Question: Would any of you be interested in a biography style journal detailing my day-to-day struggles as a homeless American?
Yes - 20 (66.7%)
No - 10 (33.3%)
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February 06, 2011, 06:00:07 AM
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I have no intentions of ever working at McDonald's, nor will I be happy there. So I'm not going to work for minimum wage. "OH it's a paycheck!" Great, so I'll have JUST enough to pay for rent and food, and be forced to be stuck at that fucking job. Then when I lose it, I'll be back on the streets. That's no way to start a life. Especially, when you have no one and nothing to fall back on.

I hope for your sake that you get these jobs and FIND a way to conserve any kind of saving that you get from these jobs. Consider 1 dollars left after paying all those foods and rents, for example. You save 30/31 dollars a month. Multiply that by 12 you get 360 dollars a month. If you can save 2 dollars, you get 720 dollars a year. So figure out a job that you can do and figure out how to consume less while maintaining your health somehow.

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February 06, 2011, 12:34:58 PM
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I have no intentions of ever working at McDonald's, nor will I be happy there. So I'm not going to work for minimum wage.

scammer.

but keep milking this thread dry for donations.
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February 06, 2011, 03:30:49 PM
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scammer.

but keep milking this thread dry for donations.

No, it simply mean that he isn't willing to work at a fricking McDonald. Why should I help a guy who doesn't help himself?

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February 06, 2011, 10:08:20 PM
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I have no intentions of ever working at McDonald's, nor will I be happy there. So I'm not going to work for minimum wage. "OH it's a paycheck!" Great, so I'll have JUST enough to pay for rent and food, and be forced to be stuck at that fucking job. Then when I lose it, I'll be back on the streets. That's no way to start a life. Especially, when you have no one and nothing to fall back on. If this works out, and I make my millions! Everyone who did help me, is going to vegas with me. Skeptics need not apply.

I can't not read this thread. Probably the best laugh on the forums.

Millions of people work at minimum wage jobs. Millions of them work themselves up from there. Your story continues to be full of lies.

I'm sure you put on a good show for the person you met on the forums. And no one that sends you a penny is going to vegas. But a nice strategy for trying to get a few more donations.

I'm glad no one sent you bitcoins on the last address you posted. Shows you how pretty much everyone here is smarter than your BS.
Lol.. The Vegas comment was a joke, and I really hope that no one thinks this is a Vegas lottery. The fact that you think everyone is a moron bothers me. I've said probably 25 times now, that almost no one has given me anything. This isn't a "scam," nor do I think it could be even defined as one. I'm not offering anything other than coding, and no one seems to need my work. I asked for help, that's about it, and I'm so fucking sick of everyone acting like they know everything.

I don't fucking lie, and fuck you for assuming I do. You're a piece of shit, simple as that. You're the type of person that steps over homeless people telling them to "get a job." One third of our homeless are veterans, and I'm sure you still treat them with utter disrespect. A large portion of our homeless are mentally ill with no family, but still you're the type of person who'd tell them that they need to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps." Even though they've done more for AMERICA than you would ever be willing to. Truth is, you're too much of a pussy to ever defend our country, and I'm sure you spit on AMERICA'S veterans just because they are now homeless. I'm sick of tip-toeing around the tulips with assholes like you. I don't FUCKING CARE if you believe me or not. I've posted that I DON'T FUCKING CARE almost 35 times now, but no your dumbass can't read a god damn thing that's been posted. You assume no one else thinks I'm lying? You assume that no one else has posted accusations of me being a liar/scammer/thief? Maybe you just think your opinion is better than everyone elses, that you're the most intelligent man here, and you must save everyone else?

Even if we do get funding, there's only a few people I plan on helping out, you really think that my "big plan" is to offer everyone a vegas trip? God man, you're fucking retarded.

I live a life that you cannot fathom, I live a life that is unreal to your privileged sheltered ass. The reason I assume you're privileged is because of two things: your assumption of superiority, and your complete lack of the concept of hunger. Not necessarily physical hunger, but the hunger of poverty, the hunger of never having what you need. Driving a broke down car, to a lousy job where they treat you no better than machine cog (replaceable, unimportant, and insignificant), and you arrive home to a house full of condiments and no food, snacking on mustard or mayo, laying down in a bed with springs that stab you. Knowing that the only way out is death or pain. You've never had a hard time in your fucking life.

By the way, this post is pretty much dead to me, I come back now and again to check in on the advice that's been posted, and see if anyone else has some ideas on what to do, maybe transcribe the last few days.

By the way, how many people do you personally know that have gone from being homeless, gotten a minimum wage job, and actually succeeded in life? Not just scraping by living paycheck to paycheck, payday loan to credit card payment? Have you seen "The pursuit of Happyness?" The reason he made something of himself was because he wasn't just going for a bullshit minimum wage job. He was going for a livable wage as a stock-broker.

"Millions of people work at minimum wage jobs. Millions of them work themselves up from there. Your story continues to be full of lies."
Yes, our nation is at a 9% unemployment rate, cost of labor is going down, and therefore living/working conditions. It's an employers market, they can hire whoever they want, and pay them whatever. They deprive them of overtime pay, and fire them for coming in late on a day they weren't scheduled to work anyway. Where's these "millions of people?" I personally know about 40 people who were working MULTIPLE minimum wage jobs, averaging to about 45-50 hours a week, and still had their banks foreclose on them. A close friend of mine AND his wife both just graduated college, neither of them were able to find work, and so they were forced to move in with their parents. Luckily his parents are lawyers and have a decent savings amassed. They were able to buy him a condo, and he was able to get a job at Cricket for 7.50/hr. He's still unable to afford his rent and food on his own. Do the math, everytime you goto a fast food restaurant, or any other place with all minimum wage employees, ask how many of them are living with their parents/aunts/uncles. Ask how many of them are able to afford rent on their own. It's about 5%.

Give me one single person who is "working their way up" from a bullshit minimum wage job? And I specify JOB, not someone who's working 80+ hours a week with two employers just to keep their head above water. If you're going to accuse me of lying, give me some proof. Everything I've said I am completely capable of backing up with documents, sources, and even third parties. If you don't want to help me, fine. If you think I'm lying, fine. But don't fucking accuse me of shit you have NO IDEA about. Don't present shit as fact if you have nothing but your own personal speculation.

Besides, when's the last time I asked for help? Over a fucking month ago... I like how I keep posting updates on my life, because some people actually are curious.. and I get dipshit assholes like you calling me a scam artist.

"I can't read this thread, but I fully intend on making wild accusations when I haven't read more than one page. I barely skimmed through the facts you've presented, but I'll gladly announce that you're a liar when I have strong evidence to prove the opposite. Just because anyone who asks for help with a hotel a month and a half ago must be robbing people blind!"

I swear to god the next person who accuses me of something with NO PROOF, I want you to come out to denver, and say that shit to my face. If you have the apparent courage to be the protector of all those you consider less intelligent than you, you should have the courage to call me a liar to my face.

Now, let's all notice that I'M NOT ASKING FOR FUCKING MONEY. And I haven't for quite some time. The last thing I said is "if you could help me (with advice or even a kind word) I would greatly appreciate it, but if NOT THEN NO BIG DEAL."

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February 06, 2011, 11:40:29 PM
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Not necessarily physical hunger, but the hunger of poverty, the hunger of never having what you need. Driving a broke down car, to a lousy job where they treat you no better than machine cog (replaceable, unimportant, and insignificant), and you arrive home to a house full of condiments and no food, snacking on mustard or mayo, laying down in a bed with springs that stab you. Knowing that the only way out is death or pain. You've never had a hard time in your fucking life.

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February 06, 2011, 11:52:54 PM
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Give me one single person who is "working their way up" from a bullshit minimum wage job? And I specify JOB, not someone who's working 80+ hours a week with two employers just to keep their head above water. If you're going to accuse me of lying, give me some proof. Everything I've said I am completely capable of backing up with documents, sources, and even third parties. If you don't want to help me, fine. If you think I'm lying, fine. But don't fucking accuse me of shit you have NO IDEA about. Don't present shit as fact if you have nothing but your own personal speculation.



Income - costofbareboneliving = saving is still true.

You should be happy to get whatever money you can, whatever job you can, but you act like you're TOO GOOD for McDonalds.

So what if you are insignificant, replaceable, and unimportant? If you can buy warm blankets and food, as well save a little, it's a win.

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February 08, 2011, 06:25:44 AM
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I voted yes, but am particularly interested in the modern geek on the streets angle.  What tricks do you use to gain Internet access?  How do you keep your devices charged?(mintyboost?)  Are there any apps that are particularly helpful?  These kinds of things.  Yes, I would be willing to contribute a small sum in bitcoins for useful information; but I'm looking for info, not storytelling.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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February 09, 2011, 04:29:09 PM
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As I'm sifting everything I own out, I notice my 400$ cookware, 600$ kitchen knives, 750$ television and 600$ computer are missing.

ROFLCOPTERS, anyone who gives this guy money is a fool. $400 cookware?? $600 kitchen knives?? What a fing joke. Sounds like this guy was living it up and now he has no money because he didn't save any. It was more important to have $600 kitchen knives. I make a reasonably good salary and I don't have anything near that expensive in my kitchen.
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February 10, 2011, 05:58:48 PM
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I am putting all my eggs in that basket.

Don't do it!

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February 11, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
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Ok, now for all you fools that keep posting that "this is a scam": ONE WARNING IS ENOUGH! STOP SPAMMING!

If you don't like the thread don't keep coming back!

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February 13, 2011, 10:16:24 PM
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I voted yes, but am particularly interested in the modern geek on the streets angle.  What tricks do you use to gain Internet access?  How do you keep your devices charged?(mintyboost?)  Are there any apps that are particularly helpful?  These kinds of things.  Yes, I would be willing to contribute a small sum in bitcoins for useful information; but I'm looking for info, not storytelling.

I see hobos with laptops all the time in my city. They either buy them stolen or steal themselves, then plug them into outlets all over the place. Downtown every tree has a power plug so the city can hang xmas lights every year, plug it into that, or wherever else (shelter). Free wifi is everywhere, although I wouldn't trust it. Probably MITM attacks to steal cards/logins

Read Steal this Book by abbie hoffman some of the stuff still works in it, if you make adjustments



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February 14, 2011, 04:37:06 AM
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I voted yes, but am particularly interested in the modern geek on the streets angle.  What tricks do you use to gain Internet access?  How do you keep your devices charged?(mintyboost?)  Are there any apps that are particularly helpful?  These kinds of things.  Yes, I would be willing to contribute a small sum in bitcoins for useful information; but I'm looking for info, not storytelling.

I see hobos with laptops all the time in my city.


That's interesting.  Imagining a homeless vagabond with a MacBook makes me laugh.  Of course, in the city that I grew up in, and returned to, homelessness is (almost) a myth.  I grew up a urban child, and only encountered such in posters and on television.  When I lived in Ohio, Illinois or California; it was not such a myth.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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February 14, 2011, 04:39:34 AM
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That's interesting.  Imagining a homeless vagabond with a MacBook makes me laugh.  Of course, in the city that I grew up in, and returned to, homelessness is (almost) a myth.  I grew up a urban child, and only encountered such in posters and on television.  When I lived in Ohio, Illinois or California; it was not such a myth.

I wrote a story about a homeless bitcoiner having a pair of smartphone and tough-as-shit netbook.

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February 25, 2011, 01:08:00 AM
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I don't have enough to be giving out donations.  Lost a good job over a year ago.
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March 04, 2011, 07:12:51 PM
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I voted yes, but am particularly interested in the modern geek on the streets angle.  What tricks do you use to gain Internet access?  How do you keep your devices charged?(mintyboost?)  Are there any apps that are particularly helpful?  These kinds of things.  Yes, I would be willing to contribute a small sum in bitcoins for useful information; but I'm looking for info, not storytelling.

I see hobos with laptops all the time in my city. They either buy them stolen or steal themselves, then plug them into outlets all over the place. Downtown every tree has a power plug so the city can hang xmas lights every year, plug it into that, or wherever else (shelter). Free wifi is everywhere, although I wouldn't trust it. Probably MITM attacks to steal cards/logins

Read Steal this Book by abbie hoffman some of the stuff still works in it, if you make adjustments


I see hobos, walking around like regular people, they don't see each other, they only see what they want to see, they don't know they're hobos. They're everywhere.
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May 25, 2011, 04:20:26 AM
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As you can probably tell, I am new here. I created an account so I could reply to this thread.
After reading everything posted here, I just wanted to say to "Pull" that not only do I believe everything you've said here,
but I find you to be smart, witty and a gifted communicator.
I realize this is an older thread, but I really hope this message gets to you Pull.
I hope the day finds you safe and warm. Take care.

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May 27, 2011, 10:13:17 PM
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Interesting story pull.

Obviously you don't want to be poor. You want to be rich.

Have you read this book? http://www.amazon.com/Millionaire-Next-Door-Thomas-Stanley/dp/0671015206 It's a book that talks about how the average millionaire got to where they are today. It's all about being frugal. Many millionaires got to where they are today with rather ordinary jobs. They do well by living below their means.

You also might be interested in this book. http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-Beginnings-Search-American-Dream/dp/0061714364/ref=pd_sim_b_2

Ever heard of Job Corps? Nobody in this thread mentioned it. That would be worth looking into.

A steady, boring, minimum wage job seems like the safest, most stable decision you could make. You don't have to work at McDonalds if you hate the place, but there are plenty of minimum wage jobs out there. You could look for a corporation that has a reputation for hiring INSIDE the company. (Increases your chances of moving up.) UPS is a good example of such a corporation. UPS also pays rather well for unskilled labor, I believe they have a dental plan for people who just move boxes.

I'm brining this up because you said you are risking your well-being by working at some start up company that might make millions. You don't need to be a genius to figure out that this kind of career strategy will NOT make you millions. I won’t bother to explain my reasoning.

From reading your posts, and your ex’s myspace page, I get the impression that you both have anger issues, as well as a history of risky bevhaior.

If you have ANY bad habits – and I’m not saying that you do, but IF you do – get rid of those immediately. Get rid of all credit card debt, don’t drink or smoke. Ideally, you would not be into Bitcoins at all, but if you MUST indulge in Bitcoin speculation, do it as conservatively as possible. I consider your pride to be a bad habit as well.

One last thing... your ex. Maybe she is a stripper, prostitute, and coke addict... but does she have MONEY? Some prostitutes make a lot of money. I can understand why you might be angry at her for leaving you, but if you can hold back your anger enough to ask her for help, that could potentially be useful.

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June 05, 2011, 06:29:22 PM
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When there is no one else to turn to..

Matthew 11:28-30: "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."—Jesus Christ
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November 30, 2011, 04:09:26 PM
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What happened to this guy? Would be nice to hear some updates. Hope all is well.
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November 30, 2011, 05:54:26 PM
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The last time I checked we have a bunch of bums called OWS  why don't you go occupy them ?

they have free food, sex , drugs and everything else all paid for on my dime!

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