16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check

[MWNinja]

As you may or may not know we're currently shipping BeagleBone Black based mining hosts, the MineNinja.

I'm considering developing an add-on board for the BeagleBone (known as a "cape" in Beagleease) that would contain 4 BFL ASICs.  It would use the BeagleBone to control the ASICs via SPI, and would also run MineNinja, so it would be a turn-key, no host needed mining solution.  Realistically we would be able to get these built and be ready to ship at the beginning of October. Pricing for the complete system would be somewhere between $500-$1000, depending on how many units are committed for the first run.

Any interest?

[jelin1984]

Price without chips how it will cost? Where you located

[Paladin69]

I have 1152 chip codes to sell if you need them.

[rustyh17]

100% interested. Have A LOT of chip codes to provide group buy aggregate savings.

[dentldir]

Interested.  Being able to apply our own BFL chip codes towards a unit would be a big plus.

[crazyates]

Pricing for the complete system would be somewhere between $500-$1000, depending on how many units are committed for the first run.

Any interest?

For $500? Yep! For $1000? Mmmm not so much.

And yes, as other have asked, will there be a discount for supplying our own chips?

[whitefeather]

$1000 for 16 GH/s Complete turnkey? You supply the chips? October delivery?

If yes to the three questions, then I am definitely interested in multiple units.

A slip in delivery beyond October will most likely be a deal breaker.

[MWNinja]

Price without chips how it will cost? Where you located

We're in the USA, you would be able to take $200 off for supplying your own chips (if we make that an option). It's logistically a pain though. 

Chip credits would be accepted (up to the number of chips required to fill your order).

At QTY 100 its looking like it would cost $900
At QTY 1000 we can get down to $650

[jelin1984]

Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass

[allinvain]

Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass

Who is this lucko guy and do you have a link to his thread (if any)?

[MWNinja]

Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass

lucko's pricing is in Euros and he is depending on the community to come up with a working board design.  That product won't likely include a power supply or heatsink either.  And you still have to add the cost of the chips. And thats an ideal pricing based on volume, which so far he doesn't have enough chips in his group buy to even get to 100 boards. Plus the chips could easily get caught up in customs in Slovenia, and there will be costs to get them out.

This is a very different offering as it will be a complete product. I'm not sure that its economically viable as BFL's chips are still expensive, and require a fairly complex PCB. The thing is that the project is firmly grounded in reality, with realistic lead times for the boards and components. And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules.

[Bitcoinorama]

Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass

lucko's pricing is in Euros and he is depending on the community to come up with a working board design.  That product won't likely include a power supply or heatsink either.  And you still have to add the cost of the chips. And thats an ideal pricing based on volume, which so far he doesn't have enough chips in his group buy to even get to 100 boards. Plus the chips could easily get caught up in customs in Slovenia, and there will be costs to get them out.

This is a very different offering as it will be a complete product. I'm not sure that its economically viable as BFL's chips are still expensive, and require a fairly complex PCB. The thing is that the project is firmly grounded in reality, with realistic lead times for the boards and components. And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules.

Vapour chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules, yet your own project depends on Butterfly Labs' ability to deliver your bulk chips on time!? Ohhhkay...good luck with that!!

[MWNinja]

Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass

lucko's pricing is in Euros and he is depending on the community to come up with a working board design.  That product won't likely include a power supply or heatsink either.  And you still have to add the cost of the chips. And thats an ideal pricing based on volume, which so far he doesn't have enough chips in his group buy to even get to 100 boards. Plus the chips could easily get caught up in customs in Slovenia, and there will be costs to get them out.

This is a very different offering as it will be a complete product. I'm not sure that its economically viable as BFL's chips are still expensive, and require a fairly complex PCB. The thing is that the project is firmly grounded in reality, with realistic lead times for the boards and components. And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules.

Vapour chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules, yet your own project depends on Butterfly Labs' ability to deliver your bulk chips on time!? Ohhhkay...good luck with that!!

Global foundries meeting their delivery schedule isn't the biggest risk by a long shot. Getting a functional PCB and integrating a finished product isn't a trivial endeavor by any means. We have some serious competitive advantages with our design where the miner software has direct SPI access to the ASICs, so I expect we will squeeze out even more performance than the reference design. Plus we will have adjustable clocks and voltages in our design. Honestly even if BFL delivered the chips tomorrow we would still be looking at October delivery.

[frankenmint]

I'd be interested in the units if they were like 6-700 bucks for the advertised 16 gh/s.  What is the projected chip size in nm?  Will there be a power supply or opt out option available?  Will this ship from within the USA? 

[whitefeather]

And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules.

Not this guy. Inform me of your milestones, release periodic updates, talk about anticipated risks, tell me about the issues when those risks materialize, succinctly articulate any schedule slips along with a brief explanation, and ultimately deliver the product. I don't need any fancy pictures, or unrealistic stakes on the ground, BFL-style drama, just some good old fashioned honest business talk and product. Reiterating I am interested in acquiring multiple 16 GHs units at your 1K price. I saw 900 somewhere on the thread. That's obviously good too. Make it happen. Best of luck. I will be waiting.

[k9quaint]

When you have something that is 100% functional and available to ship, I would consider it.
I would keep the price as low as possible. A lot of people will want to kick the tires before committing to any purchases.

[rammy2k2]

When you have something that is 100% functional and available to ship, I would consider it.
I would keep the price as low as possible. A lot of people will want to kick the tires before committing to any purchases.

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And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules.

Not this guy. Inform me of your milestones, release periodic updates, talk about anticipated risks, tell me about the issues when those risks materialize, succinctly articulate any schedule slips along with a brief explanation, and ultimately deliver the product. I don't need any fancy pictures, or unrealistic stakes on the ground, BFL-style drama, just some good old fashioned honest business talk and product. Reiterating I am interested in acquiring multiple 16 GHs units at your 1K price. I saw 900 somewhere on the thread. That's obviously good too. Make it happen. Best of luck. I will be waiting.

This.  I have cash looking for a product that isn't just vapor - lots of cash.  But no more pre-orders for me, period.  Show me the Gh/s. 

See Burnin's thread for what I would  consider good communication through the development process...

[Bitcoinorama]

The guy's more than capable at programming he's made quite a sweet looking Eruptor Beagle board miner, but PCB and chip assembly is an unknown, plus anything remotely connected to BFL is considered extremely risky...

[notlist3d]

I would love to see it.  If you can get one working atm you could sell all day for 500 and quite a few at 1000.  At 500 depending on timeline could be great.  I wont blame you for BFL's faults.  Personally would love thier chip to take off in devices.

Again all depends on when final product is done and can deliver.