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August 14, 2019, 10:34:52 PM
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I think that at this moment the institutional money, its inclusion will be totally good for the market, because it is most likely that they enter in favor of the price so that it rises, that is, the big investors will raise the bitcoin price accordingly so that the majority of people enter LONG and so they can start taking profits as they are selling bitcoins, is a very good tactic, especially because what is generated is a total bullish trend, which is what is in the current phase .
Since bitcoin has a scarce supply. Institutional money helps a lot in price of bitcoin. Actually, every investment in regards with bitcoin helps it to grow. Bitcoin is a volatile coin and it raise if there are many whales entering the market. That is why we need a support of the people and treat bitcoin as a new means of payment and currency.

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October 29, 2019, 11:20:49 AM
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Although it has its own consequence,  i still believe that institutional investors investment will have a great effect on the adoption of cryptocurrency and Blockchain technology. This will cause other individual investors to see how reliable crypto is
yes all return to the confidence of each investor in investing and needed if indeed with the capital that will be issued for the crypto currency it can bring benefits to investors and in my opinion the development depends on the investor itself investment with capital will certainly benefit

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October 29, 2019, 12:17:34 PM
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We can't stop institutional money from flowing their money in crypto, if they see some potential, they would surely invest in.
Will it be good or bad? I can't tell right now but I believe its' good because institutional money helps to bring adoption in the market and that is all we need in order for bitcoin to be a mainstream currency and we will see some great development from confident capitalist in the crypto space.

Bitcoin and altcoins will live together, of course those altcoins who are legit will survive despite the fact that they are struggling now and I also think that in time, people will not only focus investing their money in bitcoin but altcoins as well.

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October 29, 2019, 12:41:46 PM
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Institutions are unsentimental. Yes they have a lot of money and can move the price upwards. But they are unlikely to be hodlers. If they need to liquidate and bitcoin is the easiest thing to sell, they'll sell. They also won't be shy about taking profits if bitcoin makes a big move upwards.

So it's a double-edged sword.

IMO bitcoin would be safer if loads of little people bought into it.

 
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October 29, 2019, 03:24:09 PM
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While I'm happy and optimistic that the price will just go to the moon, I don't agree with the statement that institutional money will bring in more volatility. In fact, I believe the opposite will happen and bitcoin and crypto will become more stable the more institutions invest in it. The thing is, institutional money means it's harder for crypto to get manipulated because malicious actors will need more money just to make the price move, it's a safety net of it's own.

 
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October 29, 2019, 04:14:49 PM
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While I'm happy and optimistic that the price will just go to the moon, I don't agree with the statement that institutional money will bring in more volatility. In fact, I believe the opposite will happen and bitcoin and crypto will become more stable the more institutions invest in it. The thing is, institutional money means it's harder for crypto to get manipulated because malicious actors will need more money just to make the price move, it's a safety net of it's own.
institutional didnt bring negative impact only.they just try to add market capitalization although sometime they ofte  use their resources to make market crash and takw their own advantages.but in other sight, when institutional coming to crypto market, its means they judge crypto market was worthed to invest.and hype will coming after their review.

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October 29, 2019, 04:43:11 PM
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Definitely it's a good thing. there is no way to solve bitcoin volatility unless somebody wanted to invest a lot of money to stabilize the price, buying bitcoin when the price relative to a particular fiat currency goes below the target, and selling bitcoin when the price goes above the target. Without such a stabilizing force, bitcoin will remain volatile while it is in the early stages of adoption and demand is fluctuating and ultimately unknown. when more institutional investors come to the Bitcoin market, we should see volatility decrease, and this problem will be solved soon. Hence, institutional investors help a greater adoption with their funds.
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November 05, 2019, 11:48:19 AM
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The debate is still on-going if large investments from institutional firms, would be good or bad for Bitcoin in the long run. Some are saying it will bring more volatility <price manipulation> and others are just happy that the price will probably go to the Moon.

There are also conspiracy theories doing the rounds that these institutions will use their financial powers to destroy Bitcoin. <Buying large quantities and also dumping large quantities>

Some are even saying that the small fish will be eaten by the big sharks. Let's consider the impact of this and how this will change the Bitcoin scene.

Will Bitcoin go 100% commodity & store of value or will it still be used as a currency?  



All of these are possible, and it could be happening right now, without us knowing it, we know how this corporate and institutions works, they are double face, they want profit and they also want to protect their interest, but Bitcoin is for everyone we cannot stop them from joining the bandwagon, they might also try to create their own coins, while hoarding the top coins in the market, they can do this because they are capable.
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November 05, 2019, 12:00:11 PM
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the current situation of bitcoin is very good and has a lot of support because you have to know that a lot of investors have prepared their money to buy bitcoin capital and there will be a halving event that I believe can make the price of bitcoin very expensive, so just wait in 2020 for sure the price of bitcoin can make many people surprised.

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November 05, 2019, 02:12:38 PM
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While I'm happy and optimistic that the price will just go to the moon, I don't agree with the statement that institutional money will bring in more volatility. In fact, I believe the opposite will happen and bitcoin and crypto will become more stable the more institutions invest in it. The thing is, institutional money means it's harder for crypto to get manipulated because malicious actors will need more money just to make the price move, it's a safety net of it's own.
institutional didnt bring negative impact only.they just try to add market capitalization although sometime they ofte  use their resources to make market crash and takw their own advantages.but in other sight, when institutional coming to crypto market, its means they judge crypto market was worthed to invest.and hype will coming after their review.
If institutional can bring positive effect for bitcoin maybe better for for bitcoin at the future, but if institutional give bad thing for bitcoin we do not need them. Many institutional want to make bitcoin become down and lower price where investor left asset assets from bitcoin to other investment way, if can bring light for bitcoin at the future will positive way for bitcoin and altcoin.

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November 08, 2019, 08:05:40 AM
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I have seen a lot being said about these institutions and their plans with bitcoin. Some have said that with institutions the price of bitcoin will turn stable and will no longer stagger from one side to another, we all know for sure that bitcoin is highly volatile. And from what I have observed, there are people who want the institution to start investing in Bitcoin because they know it for sure that the price will go to the moon and will make lots of profit, that's why a lot of people wanted Bakkt, but they were disappointed (though I have seen news that Bakkt will gain lots of investment soon).

If institutions start to invest in bitcoin there is going to be an increase, and I don't think any of these institutions are ready to invest for the long term, they will even be the worst competition, none of them would leave their investment in bitcoin seeing that the price is falling.
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August 04, 2020, 10:10:18 AM
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Institutional capital is good and bad for Bitcoin, in my sense. It may increase Bitcoin's value, opportunities, area of work, and also can decrease the stability of Bitcoin. It can volatile it's the price as many ups and downs. Although this is a massive change to Bitcoin itself, this change can be brought about under certain conditions so that Bitcoin's losses can be minimized and in this age of globalization, Bitcoin will take on a new form.

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August 04, 2020, 12:24:20 PM
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Generally, institutional capital in the cryptocurrency market is a big investment in cryptocurrency. In any case, this has a very positive effect on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, because investors are investing their funds, even despite the great volatility of cryptocurrencies. It is noted that a significant part of the institutional capital directed to cryptocurrency comes precisely from the European Union, since there are more loyal laws for investing in cryptocurrency and, apparently, a situation is created that other assets bring less income and therefore investors are interested in the cryptocurrency market. In addition, one should take into account the fact that large investments in Bitcoin will increase capitalization, which will lead to a significant rise in the price of Bitcoin.
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August 04, 2020, 02:54:18 PM
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if indeed the institution firms will join the BTC, then it is certain the price will be higher, and BTC will become a commodity of trading assets. because if only as a transaction tool, the price is too volatile. the potential for a dump and pump is suddenly too large

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August 04, 2020, 03:22:01 PM
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Definitely it's a good thing. there is no way to solve bitcoin volatility unless somebody wanted to invest a lot of money to stabilize the price, buying bitcoin when the price relative to a particular fiat currency goes below the target, and selling bitcoin when the price goes above the target. Without such a stabilizing force, bitcoin will remain volatile while it is in the early stages of adoption and demand is fluctuating and ultimately unknown. when more institutional investors come to the Bitcoin market, we should see volatility decrease, and this problem will be solved soon. Hence, institutional investors help a greater adoption with their funds.

I don't know if there is a person who can be able to manipulate bitcoin's price movement. There is a thread who discuss how much money that you can increase/decrease bitcoin price just 1% you can read here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265030.0

Yeah you need $90 M that can be able to just manipulate 1% in bitcoin price movement, meaning it would be hard to do unless there is a person or some billionare who join together to manipulate bitcoin's price movement and I think it is impossible. As for the volatility price of bitcoin, I don't know I really believe that the future market will make bitcoin price become stable.
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August 04, 2020, 04:51:24 PM
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if indeed the institution firms will join the BTC, then it is certain the price will be higher, and BTC will become a commodity of trading assets. because if only as a transaction tool, the price is too volatile. the potential for a dump and pump is suddenly too large


Well, that shouldn't be the right way to solve the problem of extreme price volatility.  
There are safe and decentralized ways to minimize volatility that will not rely on centralized entities.   Imagine a group of foreign cells regulating the human body from the outside. That's how cryptos hope to solve problems in their decentralized networks.

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August 04, 2020, 07:17:02 PM
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Yeah you need $90 M that can be able to just manipulate 1% in bitcoin price movement, meaning it would be hard to do unless there is a person or some billionare who join together to manipulate bitcoin's price movement and I think it is impossible. As for the volatility price of bitcoin, I don't know I really believe that the future market will make bitcoin price become stable

It is impossible to make Bitcoin stable through currency exchanges

As you notice correctly, some billionaire can easily manipulate the prices of the whole cryptocurrency market (in fact, manipulating Bitcoin alone will suffice for most practical purposes). So are we stuck in an endless self-enforcing and self-sustaining volatility and manipulation loop? A short answer is, there's no definitive answer. A longer one is, it depends of further developments

On the one hand, if Bitcoin remains only an asset for speculative gains (which it is at the moment), manipulation along with volatility is not going anywhere. On the other, however, if most bitcoins are used as a currency (like fiat), market manipulation will become prohibitively expensive as no one will be selling coins below their true value and no one buying above that value as determined by circulation and the entirety of goods and services which can be bought with it

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August 05, 2020, 07:13:19 AM
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Definitely it's a good thing. there is no way to solve bitcoin volatility unless somebody wanted to invest a lot of money to stabilize the price, buying bitcoin when the price relative to a particular fiat currency goes below the target, and selling bitcoin when the price goes above the target. Without such a stabilizing force, bitcoin will remain volatile while it is in the early stages of adoption and demand is fluctuating and ultimately unknown. when more institutional investors come to the Bitcoin market, we should see volatility decrease, and this problem will be solved soon. Hence, institutional investors help a greater adoption with their funds.


I agree that institutional capital is good for Bitcoin, especially in terms of adoption, however I don't think that will influence the Bitcoin's volatility. Bitcoin is not functioning as traditional currencies and volatility is part of it's functioning, Bitcoin is not stable but its nature. No amount of investment will make Bitcoin to become stable currency.

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August 05, 2020, 02:01:44 PM
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Definitely it's a good thing. there is no way to solve bitcoin volatility unless somebody wanted to invest a lot of money to stabilize the price, buying bitcoin when the price relative to a particular fiat currency goes below the target, and selling bitcoin when the price goes above the target. Without such a stabilizing force, bitcoin will remain volatile while it is in the early stages of adoption and demand is fluctuating and ultimately unknown. when more institutional investors come to the Bitcoin market, we should see volatility decrease, and this problem will be solved soon. Hence, institutional investors help a greater adoption with their funds.


I agree that institutional capital is good for Bitcoin, especially in terms of adoption, however I don't think that will influence the Bitcoin's volatility. Bitcoin is not functioning as traditional currencies and volatility is part of it's functioning, Bitcoin is not stable but its nature. No amount of investment will make Bitcoin to become stable currency.
Bitcoin is like a product to which its value will depend on the demand of its consumers. Institutional investment is all about having money to purchase like real estate property to which it is more solid form of investment compared to bitcoin. However, it needs a huge capital which only few could afford to do it. Besides even if one can afford to invest in real estate property but still bitcoin has the edge of earning huge compared to institutional investment but it could be more risky than institutional investment.
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August 05, 2020, 03:11:36 PM
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I Think wall street will soon all invest in btc
Cryptocurrency is unregulated but Once the Wall street has the big chunk of cryptocurrency the regulations will be placed.

I think fiat and Not Only fiat but Even stock market Not survive, so cryptocurrency is new thing and btc as a sacred asset is Perfect hedge.

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