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February 25, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
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Can I use the EUR card to receive a EUR Withdrawal (SEPA) from BitStamp?

I quote what was written on the Stamp:
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"THIRD PARTY WITHDRAWALS NOT ALLOWED!Third party withdrawals are defined as those withdraws which are meant to be transferred to account or financial institution that is titled in a name that is different from registered Bitstamp account. Transfers to corporate bank accounts may require further KYC checking."

Has anyone tried it?
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February 26, 2014, 12:26:14 AM
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What happens when the card expires? Can you order a new one from their website or no?
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February 26, 2014, 10:08:18 AM
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Can I use the EUR card to receive a EUR Withdrawal (SEPA) from BitStamp?

I quote what was written on the Stamp:
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"THIRD PARTY WITHDRAWALS NOT ALLOWED!Third party withdrawals are defined as those withdraws which are meant to be transferred to account or financial institution that is titled in a name that is different from registered Bitstamp account. Transfers to corporate bank accounts may require further KYC checking."

Has anyone tried it?

You can, but you would still have to verify the Bitstamp account with your ID and then just use your real name when withdrawing to the card's account. Also, you won't be able to provide bank statement with your name, because the cards are no-name cards, which means you will have to upload some utility bill instead. Any address or name will go through to the card's account, but the account itself is still in Poland, though, and you will have to specify Poland as the country when making a withdrawal.

So if I understand correctly I should fill in this way the Withdrawal?

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February 27, 2014, 02:16:17 AM
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My plan is to need your services in about 3 months.

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March 01, 2014, 02:26:12 PM
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Bitstamp will freeze your accounts if they suspect you use these

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March 02, 2014, 12:02:52 AM
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What happens when the card expires? Can you order a new one from their website or no?

You can order as many cards as you want, but when the card expires, it's generally better not to have any money on it and just take a new card.

The bank can automatically refund you the card's remaining balance to another Polish bank account (even another Polish prepaid card's account) when it expires, but you would have to register the card if you want this option. That is actually pretty much the only advantage card registration gives you with MB cards, for all other uses of MB cards, registration is redundant.

As for WK cards, you would have to contact the bank's support to get refunded, because that bank doesn't offer automatic refund.

Do these cards ship from the bank that issues them or do you ship the cards?
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March 02, 2014, 11:12:18 AM
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Bitstamp might freeze your account if you're using a fake name (obviously). But it doesn't have anything to do with the cards.
If you don't want the risk of having your account blocked, then don't do anything against the site's TOS. This goes for everything, not just Bitstamp.

And Bitstamp isn't the only exchange, nor it would be the one I would recommend if you want anonymity. There are plenty of exchanges which don't require ID and allow third party withdrawals, which is what you want with these cards.

This is nothing to do with that. Bitstamp are targeting people using these cards for extra KYC

I'm still using mine, just a fair warning to people, you can't deny it unless you work for bitstamp and know for sure they aren't.

The cards are good and Mateo has no way of stealing the details or anything else people might be worried about. But if you're planning to use them on bitstamp be warned.



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March 04, 2014, 01:46:35 AM
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Fell free to ask questions here, if you have them.

Your conversion fee is too high. Every company who does business like this is lucky to make back their initial investment back but never survive much longer after that, were as companies who enter into the market place to snatch up clients offer lower fees and once they have a solid foundation they slowly raise the fees. Think of this way, what's worth more to your business 100 people at 3% conversion rate or 10,000 people (maybe more) at a 1% conversion rate, then in a year's time as more and more people start getting on board you raise the fee.

It would be nice if you could find away to offer these cards in North America, not just Europe, and either in USD or CAD.

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@smoothrunnings: My reply on this matter might be mispaced but I pay for my personal (non-anonymous) CC here in the centre of Europe for all foreign currency conversions 2,1% conversion fee. As I understood the issuer of the anonymous bank is a Polish bank which islocated in a high-interest country -this makes their currency espensive- a conversion rate of 3% of the handling bank is more than understandable. Moreover, I think mateo cannot influence this rate by himself...

I believe VISA will not allow the offical sale of this product worldwide, forced by organizations with 3 big letters Smiley
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Any feedbacks on it Huh plus i would also like to know if they are going to work well in US?
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Any feedbacks on it Huh plus i would also like to know if they are going to work well in US?

I've been selling these cards for 8 months here and have a perfect reputation. I was also selling them on Bimit and Coingig until their shutdown.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=96445
http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitmit.net%2Fen%2Fuser%2Fmateo&date=2013-12-19
http://archive.is/UQyOd

Plus, you can browse this thread. Many people have provided feedback on this thread.

They will work in physical and online shops in US, which accept European credit cards. They won't work for US PayPal verification, as that requires US bank account to be verified.


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Will they work with PAYPAL UK?
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March 05, 2014, 04:07:28 AM
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Any feedbacks on it Huh plus i would also like to know if they are going to work well in US?

I've been selling these cards for 8 months here and have a perfect reputation. I was also selling them on Bimit and Coingig until their shutdown.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=96445
http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitmit.net%2Fen%2Fuser%2Fmateo&date=2013-12-19
http://archive.is/UQyOd

Plus, you can browse this thread. Many people have provided feedback on this thread.

They will work in physical and online shops in US, which accept European credit cards. They won't work for US PayPal verification, as that requires US bank account to be verified.


Best regards,
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Will they work with PAYPAL UK?

I answered this question in your PM, but will answer here again anyway, so the others could see:
Probably not, because UK PayPal requires UK bank account to be verified, as far as I know. These cards have Polish bank accounts attached to them.
Same goes for US and Canada PayPals. Although, I never tried these cards with US, Canaa or UK PayPal, so I really can't confirm that.



You can use them to purchase stuff with a UK paypal account but they will only verify a polish paypal account


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Does these cards work in internet shops that have "Verified by Visa" secured payment?
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March 06, 2014, 01:58:25 AM
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Does these cards work in internet shops that have "Verified by Visa" secured payment?

No, but a lot of sites also accept paypal, and you can checkout as a guest on paypal using these cards on most sites that decline you for not having VBV.

Seems stupid, but its worked for me several times.


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March 08, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
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I'm very interested about your service, PM sent.
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March 08, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
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I'm very interested about your service, PM sent.

And I have answered Wink

I too have sent PM
I look forward to business with you
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March 09, 2014, 07:16:32 AM
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Delivered. Works. Secure. Good stuff mateo.
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March 10, 2014, 09:05:46 AM
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There are plenty of exchanges which don't require ID and allow third party withdrawals, which is what you want with these cards.

Can you name some of these exchanges who do not require ID or allow third party withdrawal?
I never seen anyone like that -except localbitcoins which is not really an exchange.
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March 10, 2014, 06:33:10 PM
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can these cards be used anywhere in the world? i mean at any visa atm?
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March 10, 2014, 08:34:34 PM
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I just bought ten EUR cards, fast shipping and no problems.

Thanks !
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